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Ray MK
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#21 Post by Ray MK »

Hi Sage

I usually use Opera-11.11-x86_64.sfs and use JRB’s SFS-TCZ_Linker-2.2.pet to load the Opera.sfs which is usually located on a mounted partition.

It usually puts an opera menu icon in the network menu entries when used with FD64, rather than in internet where you would expect to find it. (I’m using the FD64 default WM)

(This only seems to happen with 64bit puppy’s, all other 32bit puppy’s that I used it with seem to work as expected regarding menu entry)

However with FD64-520b2, SFS-Load on-the-fly (menu / setup) is included in the ISO, so I used that for the 1st time.

It works, (posting from it now) but there are no menu entries anywhere.
Used Urxvt to launch Opera, it seems fine.

Have also used opera-11.11-2109.x86_64.linux.tar.gz from a mounted partition very successfully.

At the moment I’m running live from CD (no save_file) but have also run from USB and SDcard.

HTH - ‘cos I know you like Opera.

Very best regards - Ray.

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#22 Post by Sage »

Many thanks for that, Ray.
I only run serious stuff from FULL installs. It's easier to swap caddies using one of around hundred old HDs into at least a dozen boxes or onto one of the bench test stations. All the regular 32bit Puppies will install Opera using Deb(other), so maybe kirk will see the light and ditch the Mozilla wannabes?!

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Issues with Video and Audio and Hostname and save-session an

#23 Post by gcmartin »

Kirk, I wish I was more of a help is assisting with some of the issues you're facing. They are traditional Puppy (Linux) issues of video and audio. You do have the luxury of working in an environment where your user community has lots and lots of RAM to play around with.

I continue to run a LiveDVD environment, happily aside from these issues facing you.

I want to take a moment to applaud you, though, for adding SFS-on-the-fly for those of us who need to use JRE and DEVX. Thanks!

Since, I lack the skills to be a helper as the likes of many who participate here, I would like to offer something which might prove useful and help you achieve your objective(s) at the same time.

Shinobar's "Personalize Settings". It offers users the following:
  1. Hostname selection (Required: I run several FATDOGs)
  2. Timezone controls (required for app and data needs)
  3. Numlock
  4. Video controls
The idea here, is not that you haven't provided good insights in taking everyone from boot to desktop as you have already demonstrated, but, to take them to desktop with additional "fine tuning" that many of us could find useful.

Again, I applaud what you're doing to help all of us in the community.

Hope this helps

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#24 Post by Ray MK »

Hi again Sage

Just had a thought - opera-11.11-2109.x86_64.linux.tar.gz

Would expanding into a folder (ie: Opera) on a mounted partition work as a portable application (instead of an install) with a FULL puppy installation.

Might be worth a try if not tried already.

I usually select the - Other (TAR) - from

http://www.opera.com/browser/download/

HTH - best regards - Ray


(and I too would be pleased if an Opera beta test version or similar materialised)

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#25 Post by rcrsn51 »

Here is the 64-bit version of CPUtemp. I have also attached the CPU Frequency Scaling Tool from Quirky. It appears to work in Fatdog64.

These packages have had VERY LIMITED testing in FD64. Please provide feedback.
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Fatdog64-520 beta 2

#26 Post by Billtoo »

Frugal install to Emachines D620 laptop.
Sun 26 Jun 2011 Operating System: Fatdog64-520 Linux 2.6.38.8
5.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: RS690 01.00

X Server: Xorg Driver: unknown
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.10.3

AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Core 0: 1595 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
# glxgears
68 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13.546 FPS
74 frames in 5.0 seconds = 14.748 FPS

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#27 Post by Jim1911 »

Hi kirk,

Frugal installation of beta 2 on an ext4 partition booted perfectly and is running great on my hardware.

Video Report:
Fatdog64, version 520 on Sun 26 Jun 2011
Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G98 Board - 05610002 Chip Rev
NVIDIA NV98

Extra software installed that is working great:

fd64-32bit-libs.sfs
fd64-devx_520.sfs
JavaRE-6u25-x86_64.sfs
OOO-3.4.0_64rc3_en-US.sfs
wcpufreq-0.7 CPU Frequency Scaling Tool
pwidgets_amd64-2.3.3 Pwidgets tiny desktop apps
LHP_sys_info-0.3 Lighthouse System Information &
PupSnap-1.6 PupSnap screen capture
hplip_scan_fd64-3.11.5 HP scanner driver
PupClockset-1.5.4 PupClockset manager

Great work,
Jim

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Fatdog64-520 beta 2

#28 Post by Billtoo »

I did a manual frugal install to my acer desktop and ran grub4ddos.
Added "fatdog nomodeset pfix=vesa,ram" to kernel line of menu.lst and rebooted.
Changed kernel line to "fatdog nomodeset pfix=vesa" and rebooted
creating save file and loading devx file from /mnt/home
Used bootmanager to blacklist the nouveau kernel module and rebooted.
Changed kernel line to original by removing "fatdog nomodeset pfix=vesa"
Exited to the prompt and did "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-275.09.07.run" (I
had the nvidia driver in my root directory) and when finished
compiling "xwin" back to desktop:

Sun 26 Jun 2011 Operating System: Fatdog64-520 Linux 2.6.38.8
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (382x302 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 275.09.07

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600
Core 0: 2393 1: 2393 2: 2393 3: 2393 MHz
...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
# glxgears
51291 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10258.112 FPS
51341 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10268.141 FPS

I hope this helps another nvidia card user to get the proprietary
driver working, it's better than the nouveau driver for gaming at
least.
nvidia driver download site:

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

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#29 Post by Billtoo »

I had to try it, I compiled firefox 5.0 (Aurora) and ran the peacekeeper benchmark with it and seamonkey.
edit:
I downloaded and installed opera-11.11-2109.x86_64.linux.tar.bz2 and
ran the benchmark test again on all three browsers.
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#30 Post by Ray MK »

Hi rcrsn51

Just installed both CPUtemp & CPUfreq - scaling and both seem to be working fine.

Noticed a 1 degree temp rise when scaling activated.

HTH - best regards - Ray

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#31 Post by rcrsn51 »

Thanks. I don't have a 64-bit machine where on-demand CPU scaling appears to do anything useful.

gcmartin

#32 Post by gcmartin »

rcrsn51 wrote:Thanks. I don't have a 64-bit machine where on-demand CPU scaling appears to do anything useful.
Yeah, I think their use may be evident in Laptop environments, where running without being plugged in MAY yield some benefit.

But, I wonder if there is a measurement tool(s) that could be useful in measuring energy use over time and CPU life expectancy from heat impact, to determine whether a benefit is achieved from these utilities?

Thanks @Rcrsn51
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sfs_load

#33 Post by mories »

There is a little bug in /etc/init.d/sfs_load, which causes the usb (or other device) in frugal install is mounted at boot.
Must be:
[ "$1" = "start" -o "$1" = "stop" ] && exit

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#34 Post by playdayz »

rcrsn51, have you tried wcpufreq by tazoc?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... =351354018
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billtoo, Your numbers are similar to mine. Opera scores higher than the gecko browsers, and I think Iron/Chromium/Chrome would score higher yet.

To me the significant thing is that Firefox, which I use for my work because of its features, etc., is now in the hunt for speed. Even more so, Seamonkey is now respectably fast. Firefox and Seamonkey both will get faster (maybe 5-10% higher scores on Peacekeeper) if you compile for your cpu (if you did not)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67756

I have used Peacekeeper mostly, but I understand that Firefox 5.0 beats everyone on one of the javascript benchmarks, for whatever that is worth.

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#35 Post by rcrsn51 »

@playdayz: I looked at wcpufreq and it integrates nicely with CPUtemp.

Thanks.

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#36 Post by Ray MK »

As above - works really well.
Many thanks - Ray

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#37 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install to acer aspire desktop.
I used the same method as I used in previous post to install the proprietary
nvidia driver.
Tue 28 Jun 2011 Operating System: Fatdog64-520 Linux 2.6.38.8
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] (rev a2)
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 9300 GE] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA product: G98 Board - 5610003u Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 9300 GE/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 275.09.07

Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4850e
Core 0: 2499 1: 2499 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
# glxgears
19738 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3947.568 FPS
19732 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3946.239 FPS
19764 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3952.760 FPS

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#38 Post by Jim1911 »

Hi Billtoo,

Please provide a link to the kernel sfs file that you used to compile the NVIDIA driver for Fatdog64. I keep overlooking it.

Thanks,
Jim

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#39 Post by Billtoo »

Jim1911 wrote:Hi Billtoo,

Please provide a link to the kernel sfs file that you used to compile the NVIDIA driver for Fatdog64. I keep overlooking it.

Thanks,
Jim
Hi Jim,
The kernel source sfs is built into the fd64-devx_520.sfs so the devx is all that needs to be installed.
Blacklisting the nouveau kernel module was the tough part, see my 2nd post on page 2 of this thread.
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Kernel Source

#40 Post by gcmartin »

Billtoo wrote:The kernel source sfs is built into the fd64-devx_520.sfs ... .
Thanks. @Billtoo. FATDOG instructions for video driver should be even easier than 32bit version in the instruction thread.. Thx.

Is JAVA/JRE built into this version of FATDOG?
Edited: Skip this question. I see thatJim1911 had to install it here. Thanks @Jim1911.

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