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#821 Post by gcmartin »

Seems STU90 updated UM. Will this be in the next round of ICE PUPs with PAE?

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#822 Post by Béèm »

Béèm wrote:
pemasu wrote:Beem. Lucid 525 and Spup uses JWM 500 also, that I know. Hmm, it might be more than coincidence.
I did the test again in Lucid 5.2.5 and confirm I have the issue.
But my installation is the default one, so openbox/fbpanel. I don't use JWM in Lucid.

I did the test also in spup 1.2.0 to be sure.
Spup uses indeed JWM 500 as default.
But I don't have the issue in spup

In all cases, the graphics driver used is radeon.
What I could do next is to see if the radeon driver is the same in the (cold)puppy's, lucid and spup.

Still strange issue.
So I looked in the different distro for radeon and concentrated on the so and .ko files. There is more then that as firmware.
Following is the comparison:

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sh-4.1# ls -l radeon*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1006204 2011-06-15 17:02 radeon_drv.so-ice_015
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1006204 2011-04-02 04:16 radeon_drv.so-lucid_525
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1002348 2011-05-11 13:21 radeon_drv.so-spup_120
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  852682 2011-06-14 19:21 radeon.ko-ice_015
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  636809 2010-05-27 03:27 radeon.ko-lucid_525
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  706501 2010-07-06 14:29 radeon.ko-spup_120
sh-4.1# 
It looks the drv.so files of lucid and snow puppy are equal, but the spup one is different. A clue? Could I risk to use the spup one in icepup?

The .ko files are different.
Don't know it this is relevant for the issue.
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#823 Post by pemasu »

AndrewG. you need to install aka compile the latest ati driver yourself. Nobody so far hasnt made pet for ati proprietary driver yet.
If you tried some unworking version, it would be good idea to uninstall it first.

Installation guide to install latest ati proprietary driver:
You need devx sfs and kernel source sfs, kernel source sfs needs to be lupe26, it is for Ice Puppy-015. See the first page for downloads.
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/IcePuppy ... pu_015.sfs
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_s ... lupe26.sfs

Then you need to download latest ati installer package.
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

Fill your specs and download latest installation package. Place it for example to /mnt/home.
Make the download exucutable if it is not. Right click the download > Properties, click all Exec ticks to enabled.

Then exit to the prompt and run in /mnt/home

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cd /mnt/home
sh ati-driver-installer-11-2-x86.x86_64.run

when it has finished enter "aticonfig --initial" and then "xwin" to
get back to the desktop.

The ati driver gets updated fairly often so at least this way you get latest version.

I guoted Billtoos words in above installation guide.

I think I will in future make a link to this

The Nvidia driver for my Acer desktop gets updated even more often and
I use the same method on it.
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#824 Post by pemasu »

Gcmartin. I have downloaded Stu90`s latest and greatest Umplayer offering. I havent tested it though. I will take now a little slower updating cycle. The summer in Finland is really short.
Sure it will be in next Ice Puppy and Snow Puppy also.

Beem. It is as it should. Radeon_drv.so should be same in Lucid Puppies, Snow Puppies ans Ice Puppies because they all use same Ubuntu Lucid Xorg packages.

Spup use different set of xorg packages. Dont try that spup version. It wont work.

Radeon.ko is different in all versions because it is kernel module and kernels are different in all your mentioned distros.

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#825 Post by James C »

Ice Puppy 014 live pfix=ram.Sound and internet good on initial boot.....display is 1600x1200 instead of 1440x900 but useable.

Sat 25 Jun 2011 Operating System: Ice Puppy-014 Linux 2.6.38
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 10c3 (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA product: GT218 Board - 08740005 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1600x1200 pixels (423x318 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Core 0: 2693 1: 2693 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.

sh-4.1# glxgears
1796 frames in 5.0 seconds
1918 frames in 5.0 seconds
1914 frames in 5.0 seconds
1898 frames in 5.0 seconds
1914 frames in 5.0 seconds


-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 4146MB (213MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 25 Jun 2011 08:40:28 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1600x1200 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia


# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 4146568 650264 3496304 0 73332
Swap: 4194300 0 4194300
Total: 8340868 650264 7690604
#

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rtl8192se realtek wifi

#826 Post by bwh1969 »

Running icepuppy 14 on asus 1201T netbook with Realtek rtl8192se wifi device. I have the following items running:

devx_lupu_014.sfs
kernel_src-2.6.38.4-lupe26.sfs

The wifi is still not included in the kernel here and most Linux'es are including it with later kernels. I can build it and install it.

Might want to include it in the kernel?

I MADE A PET FOR ANYONE WHO NEEDS IT.

Have been using this IcePuppy 14 for a while now. I am really pleased with it. Installed the ati driver and the cpu usage immediately dropped. Looks a lot like snowpuppy, which I have been using.
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Not seeing a battery monitor in tray

#827 Post by bwh1969 »

I don't see a battery monitor in the jwm tray BUT I can add it to pwidgets and monitoring works correctly. Am I missing a package?

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#828 Post by pemasu »

I believe that Vattery was included. Check /root/Startup/1vattery script, if it exists. If it does exist, edit it so that there is only shebang and the row like: exec vattery-acpitool.

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excellent

#829 Post by bwh1969 »

That did the trick! I didn't have to do this with snowpuppy. It was kind of a pain only having it with pwidgets because I could not see my battery status when running an app.

This is SUPER by the way and I appreciate the HIGHMEM feature.. I have a 64 bit processor and I had tried lighthouse and fatdog but the apps available are not as many and they are much slower to boot.

I figured out how to make a pet FOR MY BUILT WIFI DRIVER and when I unzip it, it looks correct and has the correct path. It is attached two posts up.

Install then do depmod-FULL -a

The -FULL part might not be needed anymore?

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#830 Post by pemasu »

bwh1969. Nice that you got it working. There is problems with Vattery. The Vattery is quite old, newest version is from -2008. Thats why not all batteries are detected as working versions with vattery-ibam. Vattery-acpitool works always.
Vattery-ibam would be learning version when you drain battery almost empty several times. The battery time estimation should be better.
That is why I havent disabled it. But unfortunately quite many cant use it though due to defective battery detection.

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#831 Post by jim3630 »

the testing pace of the northern pups is a blur to me so reinstalled IP14 only to not find the broadcom wl driver on the web site. noticed only one still up and not sure which pup it is for so below is your broadcom pet it's labeled IP10 but works for IP14.

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#832 Post by jim3630 »

pemasu,

in IP14 noticed when closing ff7.01 then trying to reopen it latter get error msg. ff is already running. looking in htop see something like usr/bin/mozilla something is running then after killing that process can open a new ff.

any ideas what is the cause or fix?

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#833 Post by jim3630 »

this is what is left running when ff is closed and prevents reopening of ff.

usr/lib/firefox/plugin-container/usr/mozilla/plugins/gecko-mediaplayer-qt.so-greomni/usr/lib/firefox/omni.jar/4385 trueplugin

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#834 Post by IndianScout »

where to download Ice Puppy 14, I've hunted all over and no file found, I'd really like to have it..

thanks..

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#835 Post by cthisbear »

Possibly here.

He has over 1000 pups....Ally

http://archive.org/details/puppylinux

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#836 Post by darry1966 »

IndianScout wrote:where to download Ice Puppy 14, I've hunted all over and no file found, I'd really like to have it..

thanks..
Closest I can find is Ice Puppy 013 here at Archive.org
https://ia601707.us.archive.org/31/item ... xIcePuppy/

keep watching may be posted here sometime otherwise PM Alley he posts stuff at Archive.org that is older Puppy Linux Downloads

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#837 Post by EdD »

I got the 013 from archives.org. I'd still like to try the 014-15, but don't see it anywhere I've looked. Was the name changed to something else?
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#838 Post by ally »

hey ed

not sure why but I had missed 14 & 15 but they are going up right now, should be there in about 10 mins

:)

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#839 Post by EdD »

Thanks, ally. Downloading it now.

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