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geany beyond screen size

#801 Post by Béèm »

pemasu wrote:Beem.
About Geany. I believe part of the problem is your screen size.
I have newer geany than in Lucid Puppies. I think my used version was compiled by Aragon and it has extra plugins included.
You can test and swap the Geany binary from Lucid Puppy. I would be interested to hear if it fixes your problem.

Or you can use this Geany from Lucid 525.
I disobeyed against my principle to only handle one issue in one post.
About geany, I'll look into this.
I have indeed a 14" screen.
I have to look again for the larger files that caused this, as with smaller files there doesn't seem to be a problem.

I'll come back when I know how to recreate the issue and when I have applied the advice given.
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#802 Post by pemasu »

Marco07. I didnt mean trying to get that LO sfs to work again as standalone office package. 01mickos scripts have heavily modified the install already.
It is best for you just load that LO sfs as it is. It should work.

I meant that I download from some official site the same deb package as 01mickos pet downloads and then I place it to the /mnt/home/libreoffice folder. I just drag the launching scripts to my desktop from /program subfolder. That way it is workable from all Puppies without need to load or install it as sfs or pet over and over again.

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
http://download.documentfoundation.org/ ... -US.tar.gz
From menu I choose deb installation package, I download it and then I extract it to the /mnt/home/libreoffice3.4 folder. Above is also straight link to download it.
Clicking /mnt/home/libreoffice3.4/program/swriter launches swriter.
Not the most cleanest way but thats how I have one intallation for all Puppies. I could do easily .desktop file with launching path to /mnt/home but I havent bothered.

Extracting means that I move or download the LO-installation.deb to the /mnt/home and then I right click it and choose extract. Then I rename the extraction folder as I want.

But getting that sfs back as original, it is not recommended.
You can use it as you have always used.
Sorry about embarrassing you.

Beem. I understand your problem, but I cant reproduce it with my 15 " laptop screen. Could the problem be spesific to some screen size or graphics ?

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#803 Post by Béèm »

pemasu wrote:Beem. I understand your problem, but I cant reproduce it with my 15 " laptop screen. Could the problem be spesific to some screen size or graphics ?
Are you referring to the ROX or the Geany issue.
My glx report is:

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za 18 jun 2011  Operating System: Ice Puppy-015  Linux 2.6.38
 0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]  
 oem: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7500  

X Server: Xorg   Driver:  radeon
X.Org version: 1.7.6
  dimensions:    1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
  depth of root window:    24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R100 (RV200 4C57) 20090101 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.7.1

Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz
 Core 0: Intel(R)  1: 1395  MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
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#804 Post by pemasu »

Beem. I referred to the ROX problem which you described latest, but same goes with that geany problem. I dont have it.

About radeon. Do you use radeon.modeset=1 boot parameter.
I need for my intel driver boot parameter i915.modeset=1
Or I would need, I have included it into the build but radeon modeset is not included.

/etc/modprobe.d folder
sh-4.1# ls
alsa-base.conf apm.conf blacklist-usb_storage.conf puppy.conf
alsa.conf blacklist.conf i915.conf

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#805 Post by marco07 »

pemasu:
Thanks for your above insteructions.
I downloaded LO from your second link above. Extracted to /mnt/home/libreoffice340.
The outcome of extraction was a bunch of .deb (quite a few) files in one of a few sub folders which needed individual installation according to a readme file provided. I gave up realizing I did not of a means for mass installation. I finally found an easier method in puppy wiki as pointed to me by a kind person from the forum. I now have LO 3.4.

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#806 Post by pemasu »

Marco07. The working LO was the result what you wanted. Sorry about complicating you installation. And I didnt have to extract *.debs in my previous Libre Office. I just checked the download. You are right, it is packaged to about 55 *.deb packages.
Now...I dont remember what way I did my previous LibreOffice standalone installation.
So, you can forget my above instructions. I seem to have done my installation some other way than from the package I posted a link.
But I have now blackout in my memory.

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#807 Post by Béèm »

pemasu wrote:Beem. I referred to the ROX problem which you described latest, but same goes with that geany problem. I dont have it.

About radeon. Do you use radeon.modeset=1 boot parameter.
I need for my intel driver boot parameter i915.modeset=1
Or I would need, I have included it into the build but radeon modeset is not included.

/etc/modprobe.d folder
sh-4.1# ls
alsa-base.conf apm.conf blacklist-usb_storage.conf puppy.conf
alsa.conf blacklist.conf i915.conf
I thought so you were referring at the ROX issue.
If you have a ROX window open and you move it, so the bottom is covered by the tray and you scroll, you don't have that corruption in the display then?

Also a question, this radeon.modeset=1 is a parameter on the kernel line?

EDIT

So I added radeon.modeset=1 at the end of the kernel line.
When a ROX window is covered by the tray and I scroll with the scroll bar I still have the issue.
I then went in xorgwizard to choose the vesa driver.
After xwin, and doing the test I still have the issue.

Does this say it's not a graphics driver issue?
Could it be something in JWM?
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#808 Post by pemasu »

Beem, That is right. I dont have that misbehavior. The parameter is for kernel booting time, given when booting, from menu.lst or at the boot prompt. At menu.lst, add it to the kernel row.

Also, I have updated JWM from 493 to 500 in IcePuppy-015 and SnowPuppy-020. I dont know if this affects.

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#809 Post by Béèm »

pemasu wrote:Beem, That is right. I dont have that misbehavior. The parameter is for kernel booting time, given when booting, from menu.lst or at the boot prompt. At menu.lst, add it to the kernel row.

Also, I have updated JWM from 493 to 500 in IcePuppy-015 and SnowPuppy-020. I dont know if this affects.
So then I did well then adding it to the kernel line.

I did another test and did choose now the ati driver.
I had the same issue again, but oh boy, no means to get the keyboard in azerty.
So I reverted to the familiar radeon driver.

So kind of a mystery then.

I probably will have to live with it then.
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#810 Post by pemasu »

Beem, did you have this problem with earlier versions of Ice Puppy or Snow Puppy. JWM 500 was added to these latest versions only.
Anyway, I will keep your problem in mind and I will offer a fix when I have a knack of the cure.

I am willing to revert back to JWM 493 if it will fix the screen problem.

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#811 Post by Béèm »

pemasu wrote:Beem, did you have this problem with earlier versions of Ice Puppy or Snow Puppy. JWM 500 was added to these latest versions only.
Anyway, I will keep your problem in mind and I will offer a fix when I have a knack of the cure.

I am willing to revert back to JWM 493 if it will fix the screen problem.
I have the problem in Lucid 5.25 as well and I think also in spup and earlier versions of snow/icepuppy.
As others don't have an issue, and not knowing what the cause is, don't revert JWM back.
I can live with the issue.
I appreciate you keep it in mind, but as you can't reproduce it, difficult to diagnose, I understand.

As soon as I am back home I'll see if I have the issue on the 'beloved' Medion, which has a nvideo graphics card.
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#812 Post by pemasu »

Beem. Lucid 525 and Spup uses JWM 500 also, that I know. Hmm, it might be more than coincidence.

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#813 Post by James C »

The latest SeaMonkey 2.1 compiled by playdayz works great in Ice Puppy and it's fast. :)

Peacekeeper benchmarks are here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 511#533511

Download link
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... 1-i686.pet

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#814 Post by pemasu »

James C. Echo here. Jim3630 posted the same thing in Polarpup thread. Are you in team ? I am getting a little paranoid, lol. Time to take medicine.

I retuned originally Sheepy`s posted GUI interface for xcompmgr. It creates menu entry to the Desktop section.

Xcompmgr is already installed in Snow Puppies.

I will test SM soon. Just got my first Firefox compiling done, so there is now room for another browser testing.
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#815 Post by pemasu »

I decided to join to the conspiracy. Posting now from that SM 2.
Not bad. How do I get the close button to the browser tab. I know that the solution and answer is here in the forum labyrinth, but well...I thought to cheat a little and ask like newbie.

I like the included Modern theme. Using small icons was next tuning and show text beside icons. Now I have much smaller toolbar. I also unclicked the Personal Toolbar.
New browser tab clickabe icon found.
Yes, I havent much used SM before. I have been mostly Firefox man....
Tomorrow I test the irc functionality. Lets see.....

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#816 Post by jim3630 »

pemasu wrote:How do I get the close button to the browser tab. .....
right click

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#817 Post by Béèm »

pemasu wrote:Beem. Lucid 525 and Spup uses JWM 500 also, that I know. Hmm, it might be more than coincidence.
I did the test again in Lucid 5.2.5 and confirm I have the issue.
But my installation is the default one, so openbox/fbpanel. I don't use JWM in Lucid.

I did the test also in spup 1.2.0 to be sure.
Spup uses indeed JWM 500 as default.
But I don't have the issue in spup

In all cases, the graphics driver used is radeon.
What I could do next is to see if the radeon driver is the same in the (cold)puppy's, lucid and spup.

Still strange issue.
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#818 Post by pemasu »

Getting close button to the Browser tab:
http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/downloads/seatabx-sm21.xpi

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#819 Post by James C »

Ice Puppy 015 live pfix=ram on yet another old box off the shelf.Getting ready to wipe Windows 7 and Ubuntu off the hdd so decided to try Ice.

As usual,everything is working on initial boot.

Wed 22 Jun 2011 Operating System: Ice Puppy-015 Linux 2.6.38
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA product: nv44 Board - p382h1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: unknown
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (321x241 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz
Core 0: 2019 MHz
# glxgears
421 frames in 5.0 seconds
413 frames in 5.0 seconds
417 frames in 5.0 seconds
443 frames in 5.0 seconds
429 frames in 5.0 seconds
414 frames in 5.0 seconds
400 frames in 5.0 seconds

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz
Memory : 904MB (189MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 22 Jun 2011 02:18:55 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2
Audio Adapter : MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART

Multimedia audio controller : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 05)
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1)
Ethernet controller : D-Link System Inc Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev 11)

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#820 Post by AndrewG »

Hi Pemasu,
I've recently switched from snow puppy 015 to Ice puppy 015
and I'm happy with it.
Flash performance is not so good on my Radeon M6 LY
Is there any way to install new drivers for my ati?
My card is not supported by catalyst, so I wanted to install the newest ati drivers to increase performance.
I've been trying to install xf86-video-ati-6.14.2 from this link
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/
but there are error messages during installation.

I can provide more details, but maybe there is some easier way instead of compiling new version?
regards
Andrew

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