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DaveS


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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 12:43    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:
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Can one install both FF 5 and FF7 in Spup or will them bark at each other?


Yes. Leave ff5 to run from existing icon
and go to /usr/share/Firefox or whereever you have installed FF7 and run from there or copy runtime to desktop and assign new icon . . . Cool


Dont you get a conflict in /root/.mozilla/firefox?
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 12:43    Post subject:  
Hey 01micko, Progress. I installed the pet, deleted the two files, and rebooted. On reboot everything was A-OK, just like on first boot, 1280x960 @ 85HZ.

On second boot, this time it looks like we have the radeon driver, *but* resolution is not the same, now it is, again, 1600x1200 @60Hz (Hurts my eyes!)

I can fix it with xorgwizard or with Setup -> Personalize Settings, but I am thinking you want it to work without having to do that. (I fixed it with Personalize Settings and then rebooted and it kept the proper resolution.)

Add> I just thought to mention. When xorg configures on first boot the resolution is 1280x960 @85Hz. This is labeled *preferred* However, when fixing the second boot 1600x1200 in Personalized Settings or xorgwizard, the 1280x960 option is not available--the nearest is 1280x1024 @ 75Hz.

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 14:35    Post subject:  
DaveS wrote:
Lobster wrote:
nooby wrote:
Can one install both FF 5 and FF7 in Spup or will them bark at each other?


Yes. Leave ff5 to run from existing icon
and go to /usr/share/Firefox or whereever you have installed FF7 and run from there or copy runtime to desktop and assign new icon . . . Cool


Dont you get a conflict in /root/.mozilla/firefox?

guess one does. But I had no idea how to get the FF7 going so I did not dare to take it down. But I usually get a conflict with Semonkey and FF but this time it just worked. Flash and all.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 15:17    Post subject:
Subject description: re multiple FF's		  
just install the .tar.gz in a directory.then run it from that directory using the firefox script icon in that directory. that keeps them from conflicting
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 15:26    Post subject:  
Yes that sounds cool.. I feel too chicken I almost never managed to deal with tar things. I am not on that level yet

But thanks for the cheer up Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 15:41    Post subject:  
If anyone is interested, I have updated Woofy (a simple remaster tool)..

Why post here?

Well, Woofy now supports the most recent Woof builds (with ones with short kernel versions, such as Spup Alpha and Dpup Squeezed).. Woofy allows you to remaster with or without a zdrv, and should now name the zdrv correctly for Spup alpha and all others, based on the main SFS name...

Woofy should be easy enough for most users, and if anyone wants to help test it, or just use it to create their own Spup, then Woofy can be found here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=429229

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 18:01    Post subject:  
Testing gnome-mplayer and gecko-mediaplayer compiling. They needs to be same versions. So install both if you want to test latest versions.
I couldnt find any configure files to see how these are compiled but I know the master compiler follows this thread.

Gecko-mediaplayer
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./configure CFLAGS="-mtune=i486 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --build=i486-pc-linux-gnu --with-gconf=yes

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./configure CFLAGS="-mtune=i486 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var --build=i486-pc-linux-gnu --with-alsa --with-dbus --without-libnotify --enable-panscan --with-gconf=yes
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 18:37    Post subject:  
Hi pemasu, When I compiled gecko-mediaplayer I thought I had to include
Code:

--with-plugin-dir=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins



And with gnome-mplayer I used these:
Code:
--with-libmusicbrainz3 --with-pulseaudio=no


libmusicbraniz is only necessary if you want it to look up album covers for the songs it is playing--which I really like Wink The pulseaudio=no was for Lucid where it wouldn't compile otherwise--slacko must have pulseaudio. So maybe nothing different for you there.

CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS, I was setting as environment variables--see the thread on compiling Firefox. But I was using them to compile for a particular architecture. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67756

I think you are missing a dash on gnome-mplayer the last item -with-gconf=yes should be --with-gconf=yes.

Finally, I was able to compile with -O3, for highest optimization--no big deal I am sure. As I understand it, -O2 is considered more usual.

I did not use --enable-panscan--that seems like a good feature if it is to play DVD's.

The ones I compiled are at http://diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/index6.html
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 18:43    Post subject:  
Seems like it's time for another gratuitous KDE screenshot..... Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 19:24    Post subject:  
James C wrote:
Seems like it's time for another gratuitous KDE screenshot..... Laughing
Where can we get the KDE desktop program, so we can use the KDE desktop also?
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 19:40    Post subject:  
Jim1911 wrote:
James C wrote:
Seems like it's time for another gratuitous KDE screenshot..... Laughing
Where can we get the KDE desktop program, so we can use the KDE desktop also?


I installed everything straight from the Slackware repo .....but be warned the installed size is huge and KDE throws the occasional error message.
Fun to play with though. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 19:43    Post subject:  
Jim1911 wrote:
James C wrote:
Seems like it's time for another gratuitous KDE screenshot..... Laughing
Where can we get the KDE desktop program, so we can use the KDE desktop also?


I think right now you're only option it to build it yourself. Dont think they've released a package of it yet.
I'm getting hung up on installing the newest nVidia drivers (270.41.19).
Once I get that squared away Im going to see about going the Gnome 3.0 route for sh*ts and giggles. Razz

So far the command line in Spup is REALLY nice. I like its minimalist interface. haha
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PostPosted: Mon 30 May 2011, 19:45    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
jim3630

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Initially, the universal installer would not install to hdd with error "cannot be mounted currently mounted read-write does not have lupusave.3f.file in it"


Hmmm... that seems weird. I don't know how the "lupusave" bit fits into the picture Confused . Are just trying a frugal install? If not please elaborate. TIA.

~
Jim1911..

Of course wbar configuration does need some tweaking. At the moment it's not high on my list but it will get done.

I'll see if I can reproduce your error with the wallpapers. There was some similar bug awhile ago and it turned out to be the wallpaper setter It was supposed to be fixed. Are you having trouble copying anything else to ext4?
EDIT: I just tried Jim and it was ok.. are you using a full install? My pupsave is on ext4, my full is on ext3.. I grabbed some of those images from futwerk, he posted a heap of walls, I saw you had some, I also saw he most likely accidentally, put commas in the filename. I saved them in my full install, transferred to pupsave and no problems. However the pupsave only supports up to ext3.



01micko yes frugal install but after the strange error message universal installer would not proceed. so mounted image, copied, pasted files and would boot up but unable to connect to internet in spite of successfully loading and configuring the wo.ko driver.

the universal installer is not correctly working in Ice Puppy 13 giving same error message. With ip12,11 and subsequently I assume seems to work correctly not giving the previously reported error message. It also works in snow puppy 18 but not in snow puppy 19 giving the same previously reported error message.

01micko read and understand your reason for not including Frisbee. I only connect via wireless and Frisbee works 100% for me in other puppies that have it. do you have a Frisbee pet? thanks jim
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PostPosted: Tue 31 May 2011, 01:14    Post subject:  
Playdayz. I fixed the missing dash. I had both gconf compiled with that --with-gconf=yes but I had copied from console the wrong one. It was bit late when I had all done. Lol.
Code:
--with-plugin-dir=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

I stopped in that when compiling. But I left it out and tested gecko-mediaplayer install. It installs the plugins to the /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins anyway. So I left it out.
Code:
--with-libmusicbrainz3 --with-pulseaudio=no


I left the first out intentionally. I believed that spup does not have libmusicbraiz3 installed. No pulseaudio, I will include that but the configure checked that I didnt have pulseaudio and it didnt give warning about it and it didnt stop the compile without definitive parameter in compile so I thought it isnt necessary to mention it.

But I like these compiling evaluations. These are most educating.
Thank you Playdayz. Highly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Tue 31 May 2011, 01:21    Post subject:  
OK finally managed to mess up my spup pa (pre-alpha) 3 slacko / spot [ some kernel numbers] . . .

Basically I loaded what I thought was VLC (already installed)
but inadvertently selected mhwavedit.
I then dragged a rather large mkv video file into it.
It was converting this to an audio only format - a trick I use sometimes use when creating podcasts from my quickcam.
I closed it down when I realised what had happened.
However mhwavedit has a restore facility if an operation is aborted. That must mean it stores in tmp or a cache somewhere?
So now my personal storage file was reporting in the red.
I think this would have happened in any Puppy?
Time to restart x, did not clear and I could not get back to the desktop, same with reboot.
Just going to a command line.

I am not sure what all this means, whether it is useful
but am reporting in as much detail as possible Smile
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