How to record with mhWaveedit?
How to record with mhWaveedit?
Hello everybody. I am a complete beginner in the puppy world. As far a I have seen it, puppy is just the thing for me, though I have some troubles configuring things. For instance I would like to record sounds of my soundcard with mhWaveedit. I have read all the threads I found, concerning the same topic and did as I was told, but didn't get any results. The needles, showing input levels in mhWaveedit, just don't move. In alsamixer I muted everything I could except "master" and "front" (so I at least could hear the sounds), toggled "capture" and set "input source" on "mix". I tried every other combination I could think of and made sure the right soundcard was named in the upper left corner (at least it was the same one "alsa wizard" detected). I seem to miss something essential. Can anybody help? I wouldn't like to return to ms
use retrovol
Just type 'retrovol' in terminal and choose your source.
If it's not installed you can easily install it yourself
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 48&t=50744
Also make sure you install audacity as well. It's useful for editing and
recording.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Audacity
If it's not installed you can easily install it yourself
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 48&t=50744
Also make sure you install audacity as well. It's useful for editing and
recording.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Audacity
tried retrovol already
I tried retrovol already. It is mentioned in the puppy help pages. Though I find it easier to use, it still didn't help. Tried different settings without effect. Tried to put in a CD (can hear that with MPlayer just fine) and record something without any luck. Input source on "Mix" or "CD", no luck.
Right now "IEC958 Default PCM", "Master", "Front" and "Capture" are marked and boosted. Input source is set on "Mix". I have three capture sliders and according three Input sources. Tried all of them without effect.
I used audacity in ms windows. Great program. Will use it when I have something recorded to work on Thanks anyway.
Right now "IEC958 Default PCM", "Master", "Front" and "Capture" are marked and boosted. Input source is set on "Mix". I have three capture sliders and according three Input sources. Tried all of them without effect.
I used audacity in ms windows. Great program. Will use it when I have something recorded to work on Thanks anyway.
Alsamixer has 2 different views:
1. playback - these settings only affect how you HEAR sound (not how it is recorded)
2. capture - these settings only affect how sound is CAPTURED/RECORDED (not how it sounds when playing back)
In order to CAPTURE sound ie RECORD from the microphone the CAPTURE settings in alsamixer MUST be:
o capture L....R on the "capture" setting
o capture L....R on the "Mix" setting
o capture L....R on the "ADC" setting
o capture L....R on the "DAC" setting
# open a recorder application (say mhwaveedit) - make sure you have selected OSS Open sound system in the preferences
# go back to alsamixer - move over the to the mic (on the playback screen) , then mute it, and then unmute it again
# go back to mhwavedit and try a record.
I actually had to mute the mic setting in alsamixer, and then unmute it again .
1. playback - these settings only affect how you HEAR sound (not how it is recorded)
2. capture - these settings only affect how sound is CAPTURED/RECORDED (not how it sounds when playing back)
In order to CAPTURE sound ie RECORD from the microphone the CAPTURE settings in alsamixer MUST be:
o capture L....R on the "capture" setting
o capture L....R on the "Mix" setting
o capture L....R on the "ADC" setting
o capture L....R on the "DAC" setting
# open a recorder application (say mhwaveedit) - make sure you have selected OSS Open sound system in the preferences
# go back to alsamixer - move over the to the mic (on the playback screen) , then mute it, and then unmute it again
# go back to mhwavedit and try a record.
I actually had to mute the mic setting in alsamixer, and then unmute it again .
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alsamixer settings
Ok, here may be some problems identified. First, I cannot toggle capture on the mix setting. Nothing happens there when I hit the space bar. I have no ADC nor DAC setting. Will try to add a screenshot of alsamixer.
I had a look at the preferences in mhwaveedit. I guess what I had to look at was register "sound > settings". On "playback device" it said "default". On "recording device" it said "hd". Tried to put "OSS" in there. Result: error notice with start of "record" in mhWaveedit: no such file of directory. Maybe there is the prob?
I had a look at the preferences in mhwaveedit. I guess what I had to look at was register "sound > settings". On "playback device" it said "default". On "recording device" it said "hd". Tried to put "OSS" in there. Result: error notice with start of "record" in mhWaveedit: no such file of directory. Maybe there is the prob?
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If you want to record music from an audio CD I recommend you rip instead of capture / record with mhWaveEdit.
Ripping bypasses the sound card and copies files from CD to hard drive digitally thereby creating an exact copy of the source tracks.
Try one of the following to rip audio from CD:
Pcdripper
RipOff CD Ripper
Asunder CD Ripper
To record sound fron an external source such as home theatre or stereo with mhWaveEdit see my How To
Ripping bypasses the sound card and copies files from CD to hard drive digitally thereby creating an exact copy of the source tracks.
Try one of the following to rip audio from CD:
Pcdripper
RipOff CD Ripper
Asunder CD Ripper
To record sound fron an external source such as home theatre or stereo with mhWaveEdit see my How To
try ice puppy
You seem to have a very advanced sound card.
Multiple capture??? I have only one capture
The problem might be that the Linux people have
been slow to build in compatibility for this card.
In that case you should try the latest kernel.
The Puppy Linux with the latest kernel is
Ice Puppy. It's available here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=66836
It worked well on my machine, but it's highly experimental.
Also the latest Wary by Barry Kauler has a new method for
loading alsa that may solve some sound problems with
some machines.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02304
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Multiple capture??? I have only one capture
The problem might be that the Linux people have
been slow to build in compatibility for this card.
In that case you should try the latest kernel.
The Puppy Linux with the latest kernel is
Ice Puppy. It's available here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=66836
It worked well on my machine, but it's highly experimental.
Also the latest Wary by Barry Kauler has a new method for
loading alsa that may solve some sound problems with
some machines.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02304
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Hi smokey01, what you are saying is not quite hope inducing. Seems to me, I have to rely on ms windows (darn!)
puppyyite, I just tried to record from a CD to test if it was even possible even, when recording a stream from internet was not, but thanks anyway.
don570, your recommendation is way beyond my skills. But thanks anyway. I guess I will have a friend of mine let have a go on the problem. If he cannot sort it out, I admit defeat.
puppyyite, I just tried to record from a CD to test if it was even possible even, when recording a stream from internet was not, but thanks anyway.
don570, your recommendation is way beyond my skills. But thanks anyway. I guess I will have a friend of mine let have a go on the problem. If he cannot sort it out, I admit defeat.
marlow, I had another go at mhwaveedit but couldn't get it to recognise sound from the internet.
I had a lot more success with Audacity, with cords as suggested by puppyite. I plugged a 3.5mm male to a 3.5mm male jack from my headphone port into my line-in port. The volume needs to be turned down otherwise you get a lot of distortion. I'm not sure how safe this is on the equipment but it worked very well.
I still haven't worked out how to configure audacity or mhwaveedit to use the sound card as a sound source.
I might also try IcePuppy and Wary, as suggested by Don, as I have them both installed. IcePuppy is a brilliant distribution by pemasu.
I would rather not have to use cords which would improve my comfort level.
I had a lot more success with Audacity, with cords as suggested by puppyite. I plugged a 3.5mm male to a 3.5mm male jack from my headphone port into my line-in port. The volume needs to be turned down otherwise you get a lot of distortion. I'm not sure how safe this is on the equipment but it worked very well.
I still haven't worked out how to configure audacity or mhwaveedit to use the sound card as a sound source.
I might also try IcePuppy and Wary, as suggested by Don, as I have them both installed. IcePuppy is a brilliant distribution by pemasu.
I would rather not have to use cords which would improve my comfort level.
Can ICE/SNOW do this as you show?
I'd be interested in your finding on the ICE/SNOW platforms in recordings:smokey01 wrote: ... I had a lot more success with Audacity, with cords as suggested by puppyite. I plugged a 3.5mm male to a 3.5mm male jack from my headphone port into my line-in port. The volume needs to be turned down otherwise you get a lot of distortion. I'm not sure how safe this is on the equipment but it worked very well.
I still haven't worked out how to configure audacity or mhwaveedit to use the sound card as a sound source.
I might also try IcePuppy ... .
- Did the cord work on ICE? (Y/N)
- Did the any other approach(s) work on ICE? (Y/N)
Mhwavedit no cords;
Live radio stream from kcur, my local pbs station playing.
Puppy 4.12 full, Wary 098 full, Wary 5.12 live cd.
Retrovol capture set to about half
Capture .so set to mix.
Pcm and volume about half
Open mhwavedit and drag right side of window till red record button
shows
Click Record
Choose sample > cd quality
Start recording
Finish (when finished)
File > save as > name it
Save > where ever
Save as > mp3? > okay- it's saving
Close the windows (sites)
Drag named file to Play
Will try music cd next.
edit;
Recorded "Who Stole the Kishka" by Frankie Yankovic (World's
Greatest Polkas cd).
No problems.
edit;
It saves on the line that begins with the word "cursor". The subtle
difference in shading is not very obvious, so watch closely.
Live radio stream from kcur, my local pbs station playing.
Puppy 4.12 full, Wary 098 full, Wary 5.12 live cd.
Retrovol capture set to about half
Capture .so set to mix.
Pcm and volume about half
Open mhwavedit and drag right side of window till red record button
shows
Click Record
Choose sample > cd quality
Start recording
Finish (when finished)
File > save as > name it
Save > where ever
Save as > mp3? > okay- it's saving
Close the windows (sites)
Drag named file to Play
Will try music cd next.
edit;
Recorded "Who Stole the Kishka" by Frankie Yankovic (World's
Greatest Polkas cd).
No problems.
edit;
It saves on the line that begins with the word "cursor". The subtle
difference in shading is not very obvious, so watch closely.
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
rjbrewer, I'm not sure how you set the Capture .so to mix. I don't seem to have that option.
If you are talking about Input .so I only have Mic, Front Mic, Line and CD.
See attached.
If you are talking about Input .so I only have Mic, Front Mic, Line and CD.
See attached.
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Strange, I'm not seeing any "mix" in your shot.
My laptop sound:
Intel 82801DB-ICH4
Sigmatel Stac9750,51
My laptop sound:
Intel 82801DB-ICH4
Sigmatel Stac9750,51
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Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
I have played with Mplayer in Ice Puppy today and tested several net streams recording commands and even scripts. I have found some working, even those which records mp3 streams straight as mp3 and those which records as .wav and then encodes it as mp3 or ogg.
I could post some of working commands later.
I could post some of working commands later.