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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Thu 26 May 2011, 19:56    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
I'm thinking to stick with 2.6.35 (actually 2.6.35.13 using Iguleders patch so it is a later version than fluppy)Cheers
Have you looked at kernel 2.6.38.4, pemasu's IcePuppy-012 which uses it, looks very solid.
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James C


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PostPosted: Thu 26 May 2011, 20:00    Post subject:  

121.02 live pfix=ram with a little newer Nvidia card.

No problem this time.....booted straight to the correct 1440x900 desktop with working sound and internet.


VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 121.02

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G98 Board - 5610002u Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nouveau

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: "1440x900" Depth: Depth 24

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video


--Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 1034MB (152MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 26 May 2011 07:09:56 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

Ethernet controller : ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS]
Multimedia audio controller : C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738


# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1034632 390940 643692 0 48688
Swap: 2150396 0 2150396
Total: 3185028 390940 2794088
#
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James C


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PostPosted: Thu 26 May 2011, 20:21    Post subject:  

Moving along to 121.01 with the 2.6.37.6 kernel...... live pfix=ram on the main box.
Booting pfix=ram resulted in a frozen computer w/ distorted display but booting pfix=nox and choosing "nv" gets things working.

VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 121.01

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: "" Depth: Depth 24

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (128MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 26 May 2011 07:29:57 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.37.6 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Sat May 21 14:06:22 EST 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.13 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Billtoo

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PostPosted: Thu 26 May 2011, 21:01    Post subject: spup-121.02 pre-alpha3 based on 13.37  

I thought I'd better give the older kernel a try.
The nouveau driver caused some pain by preventing the proprietary
driver to install but I finally got it removed and compiled the driver.

Thu 26 May 2011 Operating System: Slacko Puppy-121.02 Linux 2.6.35
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (382x302 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 270.41.19

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600
Core 0: 2393 1: 2393 2: 2393 3: 2393 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
# glxgears
45184 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9036.688 FPS
50784 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10156.707 FPS
50793 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10158.411 FPS

Kde games installed from the slackware repo, Sauerbraten and Openarena
no longer work but Nexuiz still does.

It's not quite the gaming edition as the newer kernel but okay Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 26 May 2011, 22:02    Post subject:  

Quote:
No problem this time.....booted straight to the correct 1440x900 desktop with working sound and internet.


Me jealous. Embarassed (seemed to go into momentary Nooby emulation) Embarassed
Tried the Slacko/Spot Alpha3 unstable DVD boot 'Puppy pfix=ram' on another older PC.
It went straight to desktop - using xorg.
However this PC uses wireless and could not get this running
(it uses a Voodoo card and did get working with previous Spup)
During the setup sequence I had to change resolution
- this was a little hairy but managed.

If can not get wifi will plug into Ethernet hub
or wait till Saturday.

Hope FF 5 beta compiles, we are on the edge again
or in my case just slightly over it . . . Wink

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01micko


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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 01:23    Post subject:  

Hi guys

FF-5b1 is posted at the top of the main post, compiled in spup.

it compiled fairly easily. I thought though it still suffered the bug! Confused Then I deleted the old /root/.mozilla/firefox and all was OK Laughing

If you have an older FF installation be aware of this.

Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 01:31    Post subject:  

Jim

As for the kernel I may have to talk a bit more with pemasu. 2.6.38.7 is out as is 2.6.39. If I were to offer this kernel I think PAE and all should be implemented. So far I think the current 2.6.35 offering is good meat and spuds, not much gravy Smile

~

As things are going I did have ideas on going 64bit but I think I will abandon that. TazOC is developing 64bit LHP and I think that would be a good alt for spup as TazOC mainly uses slackware as the base. I am aware LHP tops the 200M mark but hey, if you have a 64 bit machine then you are definitely going to have at least 512M RAM which will not be a problem.

~

By the way.. does anyone object if I offer the full nvidia drivers? They are twice the size but as Billtoo points out they do offer extra functionality. Likewise, it will be mainly modern systems needing those so space should not be a big issue. The older driver is the full version anyway.

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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 03:44    Post subject:  

Quote:
I thought though it still suffered the bug! Confused Then I deleted the old /root/.mozilla/firefox and all was OK


using FF 5 beta - did that

I can get f11 (full screen)
clicking again does nothing
If I right click on the toolbar I get an option to
'exit full screen mode' but I can not select
Close down FF (right click top right works)

Many thanks.

Just to mention - rather like the FB button in Seamonkey a good facility .. .

Smile

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peebee


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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 04:37    Post subject: Testing feedback  

Hi Mick

Trying spup-121.02 K2.6.35 pristine manual frugal install on my HP550.

Booted straight to desktop AOK with sound working.

Lots of good news - see below.

FlSynclient no longer gives error messages and allows touchpad to be set to acceptable speed HOWEVER the settings are not persistent through either RestartX or reboot.

Good news:
Wifi connection is now persistent through reboot but does need the stay-connected .pet from lupu525 (as does lupu525).

samba through pnethood is fast and works well.

windows printing through smbclient works.

Webcams work with Seamonkey after going F11 full screen and successfully returning to normal.

Digital TV through mplayer does not work - usb DVB-T stick is recognised but mplayer crashes:

May 28 07:13:41 puppypc user.info kernel: dvb-usb: Afatech DVB-T USB1.1 stick successfully initialized and connected.
May 28 07:13:41 puppypc user.info kernel: usbcore: registered new interface driver dvb_usb_af9005
May 28 07:13:55 puppypc user.info kernel: gnome-mplayer[7076]: segfault at 30844e78 ip b6e70ec1 sp bf840534 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2800.6[b6e16000+ff000]

Overall looking really good on this laptop....congrats

Cheers
Peter

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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 04:50    Post subject:  

Thanks peebee..

I think I know the flsynclient issue, I'll do some experiments.

Thanks for the report about mplayer. Mplayer, gnome-mplayer, ffmpeg all need to be updated, they were all compiled on spup-100 with older libs late last year. I think Keven (gnome-mplayer maintainer) has updated to about 1.04, we are on 1.00. He has some snazzy new features too. While I think of it gecko-mediaplayer needs an update as well.

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I'll leave this version out for a couple of weeks and get as much feedback as possible. In that time I'll update as many apps as I can.

Anyone up for abiword and gparted???

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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 05:33    Post subject:  

01micko. I did compile latest Gparted for Ice Puppy, so I have sources already.
I could download spup alpha version with devx and compile Gparted-0.8.1
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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 05:36    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
By the way.. does anyone object if I offer the full nvidia drivers? They are twice the size but as Billtoo points out they do offer extra functionality. Likewise, it will be mainly modern systems needing those so space should not be a big issue. The older driver is the full version anyway.

It would be nice to get a driver that enabled easy setup of 2 screens.. I found I cannot do it in Wary, with the drivers it offers.. Sad I always have Puppy running on 2 screens - my PC and TV, so I can watch iplayer on TV, etc... But apparently the newer drivers don't support mulitple screens... You'd know more about it than me, but if drivers are available which allow multiple screens, then I'd love the get them!

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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 05:53    Post subject:  

Compiling extra third party graphics drivers are not that hard. I have encouraged people to do it themselves in Ice Puppy thread. That way the developer also get important information how compiling of kernel modules work with different needs. For example I discovered that kernel hacking section big lock enabled was needed for ATI driver compiling by tester feedback.

I encourage people to download devx.sfs and kernel source.sfs, download nvidia or ati driver installation package and try the compiling/installation. It gives important feedback how it goes.
This forum is full of info - guidance how to do that. Ice Puppy thread have for example several posts about third party graphics installation by himself. And several success stories by people who have not compiled kernel modules ever before. It is not that hard.

To package nvidia or ati driver installation as pet is much harder.
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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 05:59    Post subject:  

01micko, I'm working on a new feature for Puppy, after RPM support Smile

This time it's Plymouth, I'm doing a pilot with 5.2.5 and the wonderful Intel KMS support Smile

This should make Puppy much prettier.

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PostPosted: Fri 27 May 2011, 06:24    Post subject:  

pemasu

The trick with gparted though is I don't want all the *mm dependencies which means it needs to be compiled statically. With all those cxx libs I fear it would add 4M to the iso, way too much for one app that is well covered by fdisk and cfdisk. I could do it but I haven't had the time, hence I put it out there Wink

sc0ttman

I haven't tried 2 monitors though I can.. (24" lcd TV is only 2 metres away Wink ). I'll take a look in the coming weeks.

Iguleder

That could be interesting but kms support for some other chips is dismal.. work around?

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