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#21 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
Latest testing...
Lupen 2.6.38.4-lupe22...
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Compiz is stable, but missing some emerald and config stuff still....
And as you can see,Cairo-dock lost transparency... :roll:
But the cube works!! (Well, the triangle as it is set ATM )... 8)

So now Lupen can run:
Jwm
Openbox
Afterstep
E-16
Xfce4 / Compiz_Fusion....

Long way to go, but it is a start....

8) Jay 8)
Lupen is gonna rock!!!

@Nooby,
Your thread on Knoppix is what got me going on Compiz...
And you can bet that level of stability for Compiz is what I want..
And I aint above snatching some of Klaus`s config stuff...
Knoppix is Debian...So is Ubuntu....So little modification should should be necessary...
I,m gonna have to write a heck of a WMSwitcher script...LOL...
Non of the above "get along" at all..
Both E16 and Compiz have composite managers, and Ciaro-dock sort of does...Plus xcompmgr.....Grrrr..
What, am I , nuts???

But it can work....maybe.... :oops:
We will see..... 8)
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#22 Post by nooby »

Sad news again. Tested and failed to get internet. Very surprising.

Ice puppy just works. Another one that failed to get internet was one of the Dpup 485 if I remember.
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#23 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
Sorry Nooby for slow reply, been busy with B.S.
What card, wired or wireless...
These things I need to know...
The "base" released so far needs to be solid B4 I build a release with Compiz...

Oh yea, as much as I love Enlightenment, I am pretty sure Lupen will be a Compiz Pup... Ive been running the Compiz build for a week so far, and it is, to my amazement, staying true, and solid... Several reboots, and no new problems, just a few I am already working at...Namely, layering in composite..
Really, it is just Conky and/or Pwidgets..Not a biggie...you can see in this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_1QeAhq2go
Pwidgets and Conky are on the wrong layer..

But to comply with the Lupu standard it must boot straight to a (Compiz) desktop..So it will be pretty big, as video drivers are big, and Compiz needs GLX running first...I may create a boot option for no GLX/Compiz/Cairo-dock...Probably not...whats the point??? Either it works, or basically, its Lupu525 with a few additions...ATM at least...

I need to get it into an ISO for testing, as it is running "savefile" for now..
So far, the ISO`s have xorg problems, and Im not much for remastering...
So I combine the two...Works for Intel...Gonna borrow an ATI lappy to test..
Kernel "lupe22" seems to be the one.....The one I uploaded is "lupe17" based..
But I dont want to upload this one till it is dead on...Compiz is cool, and a pain... :x
But the mixture of Xfce4, Rox, Thunar, GTK GLX and Cairo-dock, under the Intel XorgHigh drivers is sweet..and stable so far, thru many reboots...

Oh yea...Nooby, post some specs... :D
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#24 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
Regarding "combine the two" above...
Basically, I opened up 3builddistro and put a pause before mksquashfs and another before mkisofs...Simple xmessage like "here is where you want to edit the .sfs" or, "wanna edit the ISO?"...till I click "OK" xmessage pauses Woof...

Didnt even bother with xdialog... 8) :roll:

Allows more editing and configuring options...
Gets around some Woof defaults, backgrounds, configurations, etc..

Then click "OK" and Woof continues....
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#25 Post by nooby »

Atheros AR 8132 L1c Gigabit Ethernet LAN

is that a good way to retell what I have :)
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#26 Post by pemasu »

That wired eth card uses atl1c driver which should have been as module all the time in lupe 2.6.38 kernels. I know that since my ethernet card uses same driver.

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#27 Post by nooby »

Yes you are right. When it works then most or all puppies do use that one
atl1c

But on the puppies where it fails them shut down the LAN card so even if them have atl1c it does not help because even if they load that atl1c driver them have already shut down LAN card so the Card don't get activated and the only way to repair that situation is to shut down and pull the power plug and take out the battery.

or else no OS apart from Windows can get it going again.

Something in these puppies are so damaging to the LAN card that it most likely is protected by some thing in BIOS or how else to explain that it impossible to repair without getting it to completely flatting the capacitors to get below 2.4 Volt.


Would be cool to find out what is going on. Is there no log in Spup that one can use or Puppy Lupen?
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#28 Post by pemasu »

Nooby. I think that older kernels dont support your eth card fully, but newer kernels have updated atl1c. I think that is the most reasonable explanation.
So it depends on what kernel Puppy uses whatkind support it has for your eth card.

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#29 Post by nooby »

That seems to be a very reasonable explanation. So I should learn how to determine what kernel a puppy uses then.
Edit after reading below.

I looked and Snow pup 5 has 2.6.35.7 so that is a good kernel for me then. Most likely that is the one that Jemimah use for Fluppy 13?

So Now I should look in Spup and see what that one use. Or them tell it on first page maybe.

I am so lazy I should through each puppy and look for what kernel them use and note whom has what trouble and make a list on it but I am too lazy for that.

Puppy Lupen using 2.6.38.4 should work then because is that not one you used on Snow and Ice puppy too and that one worked?

So my wild guess is rather that I need puppies that have RFKILL in them?

Edit thanks to pemasu and GCMartin. both suggested ways to find kernel version did work.
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#30 Post by pemasu »

Nooby. That is easy. Just check inside /etc/modules folder.

gcmartin

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#31 Post by gcmartin »

@Nooby, or type "uname -r" in a terminal window.
@PuppyLuvr, I'm looking forward to your upcoming release to test SAMBA PET, again.

Hope this helps

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#32 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
OK, first ISO with Compiz-Fusion..
See first post...
Still buggy, but it works...
Try at your own risk...
Should not cause your computer to blow up...but... :wink:

Still tring to get Compiz, Emerald, Cairo-dock, Pwidgets, and Xfce4
to cooperate and get along...
FBpanel is off by default, an it interferes with Cairo-dock, but can be enabled.
Many personal settings remain...hey, its a test release...just reset wireless, weather, etc to your own specs...

Test please...
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xorg doesn' work

#33 Post by davec51 »

I made a frugal install of Lupen, as I have done with maybe a dozen Puppies before. Everything is fine until I get to xorg, then whatever I try doesn't work. I have an Intel graphics card, but I don't understand your instructions about it, as no "ignore" choice is ever given to me on bootup.

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#34 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
Did you try running xorgwizard at the prompt??
Choose your card, and then, at the prompt type
startx xfce4
If it doesnt work, try
xwin openbox or xwin jwm
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Nothing works

#35 Post by davec51 »

Nope. I tried each of the options you suggested, but I always got the notice that x didn't work, try xorgwizard again. It may be that varieties of Wary don't work with my graphics card (Mesa DRI Intel 8456GEM, etc.).

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#36 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
Lupen isnt Wary..It is Lucid based...
Did you check the md5sum???
What kind of machine are you on??
That is the exact video card Lupen was built on..
The last entry for Intel, without a number, works for me..

I will D/L and check the md5sum to insure a good upload occurred..
Will take about 30 min..
Be back..
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#37 Post by nooby »

Puppyluvr I also have intel card for video here on my Acer D250 so I will try as you recommend to chose intel in the xorg choice and test the latest iso 0.1 withing some 15 minutes from now and get back and tell the result in this post editing it. Now I am back booted into Lupen 0.1

Oh so you like Compiz? I am maybe too attention challenged to appreciate all the things going on. popping up and down and exploding and so on.

I feel spoiled whining when I should be happy.

Well everythings works too well. I get to know what weather you have. Time in big digital sings. I am used to get an analog instead but that most likely is a choice somewhere.

Being this big it is remarkably slower than what I have come to expect. I only have 1GB RAM amd a N270 ATOM CPU so that explains it.

It looks kind of cool so that is your choice, you want it that way and I am unfortunately not that wild and enthusiastic due to my too short time of attention I get over whelmed by all the things going on.

But it was fun to try out.
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#38 Post by nooby »

When I boot up it says something about that it find Intel 945 chips and then I fail to get time to read the rest. is that recorded in some log at tmp?

When writing here in the forum it is remarkably or annoyingly slower lagging behind each char I enter. That is not cool :)
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Still no graphics

#39 Post by davec51 »

I tried adding "vga=normal" to the kernel line; no change. I chose the Intel driver, and the test showed success, but still I keep getting the message that I have to type "xorgwizard," no matter what command I use. Now I'm online with Puppy 525, also Lupu.
It's a Dell GX280 machine, P4, with 512M RAM.
I'll download again and reinstall.

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#40 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
@Nooby,
Yes, I really liked the Puppy/Compiz/Ciaro-Dock combination since Project Ripple and wNOP, both of which are long gone now.. :cry:
To speed up performance, you might try Ciaro-Dock without GLX:
In a terminal type "killall cairo-dock" to stop it.. Then type "cairo-dock -c" to restart it without GLX.. Not as flashy, but less of a resource hog.. 8) I may default it that way in the future.. "ciaro-dock -o" starts it back in GLX mode..
Both Compiz and Cairo-Dock-GLX are composite and together are resource hungry... Did you
@davec51,
If the md5sum matches, there is no need to redownload..
With 512mb ram, you may need a swap file to run this one properly in Compiz...But xwin openbox should give you a relatively standard Lupu525 desktop... If you cannot get a standard OB desktop I suspect a bad D/L..

@Nooby and davec51...
If you could, please post a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for me..
For Nooby friendliness I have attached "Tarballmaker"
Unpack it somewhere..Inside is a script called "TarThemAll..
Pup whatever directories you want, as many as you want, in there, then click the script..Instant tarballs...
Put a copy of xorg.conf in a directory, put the dir inside Tarballmaker, and run the script..
This is so you can post it here instead of paste it here..
Attachments
Tarballmaker.tar.gz
Easy way to tar up directories...
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