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PaulBx1
Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2308 Location: Wyoming, USA
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Posted: Fri 13 May 2011, 10:45 Post subject:
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01micko, just for grins I tried plugging that new init into my initrd.gz, but no go (still says "lupu_525.sfs not found"). So the fix is going to be more complicated than that. Probably wouldn't have worked in any case, as the init script is a whole lot different than lupu's. Oh, well...
When it dumped me at the prompt I tried looking at the appropriate variables (ATADRIVES, etc.) but they were all empty. Perhaps that is a result of exiting the script.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Mon 16 May 2011, 19:31 Post subject:
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It is frustrating that the network wizard (not the SNS) indicates a successful network configuration, while the ip obtained is a APIPA.
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Chriske
Joined: 16 May 2011 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue 17 May 2011, 03:39 Post subject:
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I'm a newbie using 5.2.5 from a USB drive on a Dell Inspiron 531 and Openbox.
There seems to be a bug around the unhide feature for the Fbpanel/tray.
Autohide itself is successful. The problem is that whenever the cursor hovers near to the tray (about double its height it seems) then the tray pops-up and obscures the bottom part of whatever maximised window currently has focus.
That's an issue if the user wants to click anything in that area - say, the statusbar in Firefox. So, ideally the unhide should only kick in when the mouse hovers at the very edge of the bottom of the display.
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Bill_Gates

Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 154 Location: Medina, Washington
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Posted: Thu 19 May 2011, 14:58 Post subject:
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| PaulBx1 wrote: | OK, I did find the section for ALPS touchpad in xorg.conf, and added | Code: | | Option "TouchpadOff" "2" | to it, which works to turn off tapping. Apparently this is how to handle these touchpads. One wishes though, that either
1) some warning had been generated that flSynclient cannot be used to make permanent settings on this touchpad, and that it is done instead in xorg.conf, or
2) take that code out of load-touchpad-settings, and let flSynclient make the settings anyway (after xorg.conf has provided some reasonable default). Since Puppy is supposed to be easy and generally controls settings via gui apps (that is, it is not Arch), maybe the 2nd solution fits better.
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I agree with PaulBx1 and don't understand why flSynclient doesn't work properly in 525 (save settings such as Tap off) when it seems to work fine in 511???
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PaulBx1
Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2308 Location: Wyoming, USA
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Posted: Sun 29 May 2011, 16:21 Post subject:
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See this post about ISOLINUX:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=528662#528662
I ran into that one as well.
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PaulBx1
Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2308 Location: Wyoming, USA
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Posted: Sun 29 May 2011, 17:05 Post subject:
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I have a Sony laptop with 1GB of memory. 127MB has been allocated to /tmp (wrong, see below)
| Code: | # df
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs 512648 14556 498092 3% /
/dev/sda1 7699384 5840572 1467696 80% /initrd/mnt/dev_save
/dev/loop1 253871 161864 92007 64% /initrd/pup_ro1
tmpfs 512648 14556 498092 3% /initrd/pup_rw
tmpfs 127460 126460 1000 100% /initrd/mnt/tmpfs
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Apparently this is insufficient to download the big ubuntu repository lists in PPM. Embarrassing...
Running out of room in /tmp is one of the perennial Puppy problems. Maybe we should try to fix it?
<later>
OK maybe I am getting confused over what /tmp is, I guess it is /dev/shm, right? And that is 185MB, almost empty. Something is running out of resources though, as my longer PPM downloads are hanging. It looks like there is 56MB left in my pupsave, should be enough. Any place else to look?
| Code: | # df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs 501M 12M 490M 3% /
/dev/sda1 7.4G 5.9G 1.2G 84% /initrd/mnt/dev_save
/dev/loop1 248M 192M 56M 78% /initrd/pup_ro1
tmpfs 501M 12M 490M 3% /initrd/pup_rw
tmpfs 125M 124M 1000K 100% /initrd/mnt/tmpfs
/dev/loop0 124M 124M 0 100% /initrd/pup_ro2
unionfs 501M 12M 490M 3% /
shmfs 185M 0 185M 0% /dev/shm
/dev/loop2 5.0G 2.5G 2.3G 52% /mnt/truecrypt1
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bigpup

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 3687 Location: Charleston S.C. USA
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Posted: Sun 29 May 2011, 18:54 Post subject:
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| PaulBx1 wrote: | | Something is running out of resources though, as my longer PPM downloads are hanging. It looks like there is 56MB left in my pupsave, should be enough. |
Depends on size of PPM downloaded program package.
When you download a PPM package it is compressed.
To install, it has to uncompress temporarily, install the package, and delete the temp uncompressed files. General rule you need 3 to 4 times the space in Pupsave that the package will use after the install process has finished. Size of the installed package could be much larger depending on how small it could be compressed.
Example:
A full install of the Lucid Puppy 5.2.5 ISO of 128MB ( a compressed file), is 312 MB after install.
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PaulBx1
Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2308 Location: Wyoming, USA
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Posted: Mon 30 May 2011, 21:33 Post subject:
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Yeah, but the largest of those downloads are around 5 MB. Even expanded that should not be a problem. I've run pupsaves with a lot less space than 56MB and had it work OK. It's the first big one that dies, not the last one.
I ran into yet another problem. I can only watch 15 or 20 seconds of a youtube before it stalls. This is getting ridiculous. I may have to go back to 511.
Maybe the thing in the taskbar is not accurately portraying how much room I have left. I suppose I will try making it larger (although I decided I don't like big pupsaves) to see if that has any effect.
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bigpup

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 3687 Location: Charleston S.C. USA
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Posted: Mon 30 May 2011, 22:56 Post subject:
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| PaulBx1e wrote: | | I ran into yet another problem. I can only watch 15 or 20 seconds of a youtube before it stalls. This is getting ridiculous. I may have to go back to 511. |
Are you sure that the image quality setting is a figure that your connection can give smooth streaming.
Anything higher than 360 and my internet connection speed makes videos stall.
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bigpup

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 3687 Location: Charleston S.C. USA
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Posted: Mon 30 May 2011, 23:06 Post subject:
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| PaulBx1 wrote: | Yeah, but the largest of those downloads are around 5 MB. Even expanded that should not be a problem. I've run pupsaves with a lot less space than 56MB and had it work OK. It's the first big one that dies, not the last one.
Maybe the thing in the taskbar is not accurately portraying how much room I have left. I suppose I will try making it larger (although I decided I don't like big pupsaves) to see if that has any effect. |
This does seem to be a off and on problem with people. Would be nice to find what the real cause is.
Temp directory in pupsave.
A lot of stuff goes into the temp directory in the process of running programs.
A wonder if this is being reflected in the available free space indicator in the program tray?
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PaulBx1
Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2308 Location: Wyoming, USA
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Posted: Wed 01 Jun 2011, 14:06 Post subject:
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I'm now visiting a friend so have a different internet connection, and now the youtube problem appears to have vanished. I never paid attention to the resolution before but it says 360 now.
It was not looking like this type of problem before, but more like a resource issue. I could run the youtube and it would stop at 14 seconds. I could then stop and rerun it and it would stop in the same place, over and over again. It was the download that was stalling.
Who the heck knows what is going on? I don't have the knowledge to troubleshoot it.
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bigpup

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 3687 Location: Charleston S.C. USA
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Posted: Thu 02 Jun 2011, 14:49 Post subject:
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| PaulBx1 wrote: | I'm now visiting a friend so have a different internet connection, and now the youtube problem appears to have vanished. I never paid attention to the resolution before but it says 360 now.
It was not looking like this type of problem before, but more like a resource issue. I could run the youtube and it would stop at 14 seconds. I could then stop and rerun it and it would stop in the same place, over and over again. It was the download that was stalling.
Who the heck knows what is going on? I don't have the knowledge to troubleshoot it. |
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2215 Location: near here
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Posted: Thu 02 Jun 2011, 15:13 Post subject:
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@Chriske
There's a thread about the auto hide on 5.2.5 here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=68385
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bigpup

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 3687 Location: Charleston S.C. USA
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Posted: Sat 04 Jun 2011, 13:21 Post subject:
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There is a bug in Openbox window manager when you put the taskbar at the top.
| Quote: | | I like my menu bar on the top of the screen |
The default window manager for Puppy 5.2.5 is Openbox.
For some reason when you put the taskbar at the top, the desktop does not adjust for this position.
The work around is to do this:
menu->desktop->desktop settings->Openbox window manager config
In the margins tab
Adjust the top margin to move the desktop down to just below the taskbar.
On my computer 27px setting did it.
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PaulBx1
Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2308 Location: Wyoming, USA
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Posted: Tue 14 Jun 2011, 22:14 Post subject:
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I'm back down to seeing only 19 seconds of youtubes, even after a reboot. This is maddening!
I noticed that in this discussion, there is a line for /tmp in "df -h", but that is not so now. How can I tell how much room is left in /tmp? Anyone?
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