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sszindian


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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2011, 11:23    Post subject: How Secure Are You?  

Security... Security... Security ????

Don't 'GUESS' how secure you are... 'KNOW!'

With the tracking technology thats available today, it's really almost impossible to hide your identity.

If you would like to know just how secure your computer and Internet activity is, click on this site. They check you out and give you a nice detailed report! This will tell you what you have to evaluate in your system to 'try' to get more secure.

http://ip-check.info?lang=en

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Jasper


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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2011, 14:34    Post subject:  

Hi,

I tried the test link immediately above with some (to me) unexpectedly bad results when using both Firefox and Iron. Using Tor showed a huge security improvement, but the time to view had increased, at a guesstimate, by more than one hundredfold (from a few seconds to a few minutes).

My regards

Update:

I have uninstalled Tor and in its stead I am trying the Firefox add-on "Torbutton" with Firefox 3.6.17.
So, apparently I can enable or disable Tor, but I haven't found a way to use Firefox unless the Tor button is set to disabled (even with the Firewall set at off).
Even a hint of advice would be welcome.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2011, 22:19    Post subject: Tor Button  

Hi Jasper!

Myself, I don't use firefox, haven't for several years now but, you might check here for your answer -

https://www.torproject.org/torbutton/torbutton-faq.html.en

You might consider asking this question in possibly the 'Security' Forum, you will probably receive better responses...

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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2011, 22:59    Post subject:  

Very good security check for the terminally paranoid
Tor in use would just make me cry Crying or Very sad
I am in dpup and it has a secure browser mode that made little diference

but this might work anyone try it? Cool
http://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/jondofox.html

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lmart

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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 16:58    Post subject: save file ... oops  

Not to rain on your parade ...

FYI, downloaded Cloud Puppy -1.0 to cd, booted to cd so there would be no change to my hdd system (puppy 5.2.5). Cloud Puppy read my puppy 5.2.5 savefile and, upon rebooting to puppy, learned that it corrupted it.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 17:34    Post subject: Cloud Puppy - 1.0
Subject description: Boot-up
 

I had the same problem with releases make from Browserlinux with frugal installs. I found when you boot-up with a remake of Browserlinux you have to hit the F2-Key and then type puppy pfix=ram to save my frugal installs.
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lmart

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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 20:18    Post subject:  

My experience with Browserlinux differs markedly. It presents a menu to select different save files. It is elegant in it's simplicity. It would be nice, if on exit, all pups allowed a Save/NoSave option to avoid similar experiences. It took me several hours to re-build everything.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 20:32    Post subject: Cloud Apps  

Here are some more nice places for Cloud Apps you just gotta' check out!
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More Than 4 Million Users Work Online With Zoho!

https://www.zoho.com/

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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 20:45    Post subject: Eating Previous Pupsave Files  

lmart :

Gosh... sorry to hear that but I believe I made it very clear in my FIRST post that.... I am Not A Programmer... just trying to fill a need for this type of Puppy that no one else was interested in doing or helping me with! I did the best I could, and second, I made it quiet clear to 'Be Careful' and maybe first try things with CD/DVD only!

Always make a first run on a new Puppy (no matter who's) by selecting the 'F2 Key' and type puppy pfix=ram.

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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 21:23    Post subject:  

>>>---Indian------>
I did try it with a CD, so I wouldn't screw up my system.
The F2 key thing is new to me.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 21:35    Post subject: Re: save file ... oops  

lmart wrote:
Not to rain on your parade ...

FYI, downloaded Cloud Puppy -1.0 to cd, booted to cd so there would be no change to my hdd system (puppy 5.2.5). Cloud Puppy read my puppy 5.2.5 savefile and, upon rebooting to puppy, learned that it corrupted it.


lmart, use puppy pfix=ram with the liveCD and you shouldn't have this problem. When the CD is used, you see a boot screen and have a few seconds to start typing. So type "puppy pfix=ram" (no quotes) and it will all load in RAM without looking for the savefiles.

Hope that helps.

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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 21:50    Post subject: Savefile Problem  

lmart:

Idid a little research in the forum on savefile... here is something that may (or may not) be useful:

jemimah said in:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=637993079&t=64343

Various boot codes might help you.

If you actually wanted to use the save file and delete files from the distro out of it:
pfix=clean (same as "version upgrade")
pfix=purge (more drastic - not sure exactly what this does).

Prevent Puppy from loading a save file:
pfix=ram

Only load save files from a certain partition:
pdev1=/dev/sda2

Only load save files from a certain subdirectory:
psubdir=foo

Only load save files on usb drives
pmedia=usbflash

If Puppy finds more than 1 save file, it's supposed to ask which to use.

And I'll add here...
If it finds ONLY ONE previous savefile from another version... I can't say nor find the answer? But... possibly the pfx=clean mentioned may help?

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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 22:59    Post subject: One Click To Your Favorite Cloud URL  

Want to store that favorite 'Cloud URL' on the AppStarter Box so all you have to do is click on the Icon Zippo... you're right at the site?

Here's how to do it:

Click on the 'Change Starters' at the bottom of the AppStarter Box.

(first) - we'll use the below example I have setup in mine - There 20 available Icon Boxes (you can use 19)in the AppStarter, choose one of those 19 you don't really need and use the example guideline below- When you replace one of the 19, don't worry, they are always in the 'More Apps' section as a regular file to use, just remember DON'T EVER DELETE OR CHANGE '20' THE 'More Apps' ICON!!! use any of the remaining 19 to make your change.

(second) - Get yourself the icon (or make one using Pixlr-Paint) that you want to use... the size should be around 64x64 (that size fits nice in the small boxes). Put the icon in to folder that is shown below in the ICON Line the example... That part's done!

(third) - Type in the EXEC Line the code of the URL for (example below: http://www.pixlr.com/).

(forth) - Type in the LABEL Line name (example below: Pixlr-Paint.

LABEL=(whatever box# used)="(a start quote) Name "(an end quote)
Do the same for the ICON= line and the EXEC= line, and your done!

Double Check your work... Do I have the Quotes right?
Do I have the number the same in all 3-lines?
Do I have the Icon in the right file folder and is the path to it correct?
Did I miss any 'spaces' that should have been put in?

-------------------------------(EXAMPLE)------------------------------

LABEL19="Pixlr-Paint"
ICON19="/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/paint-icon-2.png"
EXEC19="defaultbrowser http://www.pixlr.com/"

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Go To The Top Of The AppStarter.conf file (thats what your working in) and click on 'SAVE'.

Your NEW URL is now only ONE Click Away!

'Have Fun'

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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 01:03    Post subject: Pwidgets  

There are some .pet programs that work in Cloud Puppy however, I haven't really tried a lot of them and don't intend to, Cloud Puppy was NOT meant to have the standard applications that other Puppy programs do! Cloud Puppy was designed to 'WORK IN THE CLOUD' using Cloud Based applications that are provided there... and I might add, they are really nice compared to most of the standard Puppy applications that have been around since Puppy was first invented. The newer innovations for programs on the Cloud are just fantastic, and most work just a well on older computers as they do on the 'Lastest, Greatest.'! Now... I'm not saying you're going to get 100% satisfaction with everything you try, but that's the nice part, you go try something else... or something else or something else... get the point?

Another thing you'll notice is you won't constantly be increasing your personal savefile because really, you won't need to be adding to your HHD all that much. and, that's nice! Fact is, after you get used to Cloud Computing... it appears to me a CD/DVD would be more than one would ever require! Hmmm... that's nice too!

One still very nice standard Puppy application is the Desktop Pwidgets... yes, they also work on Cloud Puppy except for one item that I'm aware of, that's the 'analog clock' it just doesn't show up. it creates the space for itself but just a 'no show.' However, the digital clock works just fine so that's what I use. Everything else appears to function normal. Pwidgets really look nice on the Cloud Puppy desktop, especially the theme Stardust Blue!

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lmart

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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 05:41    Post subject:  

>>>---Indian------>

thanks
like your concept for Cloud Puppy and, the use of iron
unaware of ixquick, trying it now
in my use, there are typically 2 states (potentially savefiles), (1) when have access to the cloud and, (2) no access. In either case, a fast booting, slim linux is preferred; my thoughts are a core system with key functionality to get you to the Cloud, then a few minimalists apps for the times when no access to the Cloud
good luck with your work on Cloud Puppy
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