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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 14:32    Post subject:  Have more than 3GB of RAM? You need one of these Puppies  

Many may not understand what these 6 distros do, compared to what other 32bit PUPs don't do. Simple, "SCALE". Now what does scale mean???
Explanation
Up until these PUPs came onto the Puppy scene, ALL 32bit PUPs could NOT take advantage of PC with more that 3.5GB of RAM. PUPs simply were NOT capable of using it. These 3 allow Linux to "scale" to the size of your system without impacting performance. in fact, all signs thus far show a significant increase in desktop performance for all applications. This leads to a much greater and happier user experience than was previously capable.

Since machine purchases today have 4GB of memory or more; And, older PCs users have already added 4GB+ to even old P4 systems, a need existed to allow PUPs to take advantage of all memory of the PCs.

So, these Puppy community leaders (leaders because they have provided enhancements which has provided improved performance and will take advantage of all of your memory, no matter what size PC you have, today.) on their own time and using their personal wealth for us, have donated new distros for our use. They spared no expense.

Their solutions show 2 major things
  1. having a PUP which takes advantage of your PCs features is obtainable
  2. a significant speed increase results from using existing CPU advances via these new distros
The Puppy distros mentioned above will run speedily on ALL PCs with 512MB or more of RAM. So no matter how much more RAM you have, these will insure availability to your applications in Puppy of ALL of it. Everyone, can breathe renewed life in 32bit PCs by just adding memory. And the Puppy development community does NOT have its hands tied in the RAM needed for its program operations.

For 32bit Intels-AMDs-Vias, "Having a Puppy which can run all the way to 64GB is like moving it out of a cage into a Stadium to play in." Wow

We should all bow in a "moment of silence" to show our appreciation to these brave astronauts for guiding us here. And, we should continue to help future endeavors in whatever manner you can.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 03:09    Post subject:  

Found another one gcmartin.

Stu90 has added pemasu's kernel to his lucid lite. It is available here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=519308#519308

I haven't been able to keep track of all the development that pemasu and other's have done, but it appears that the use of highmem / hugemem kernels is not creating any deal breaker issues for new hardware. I'm glad to see this implementation is getting realised after the discussions from a few months ago. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65787

This is a great reflection on the puppy community. An issue was identified, assessed and addressed, and is now being implemented in a few pups with success, all in just shy of two months.

How good is puppy, and the guys and girls on this forum!
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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 06:28    Post subject:  

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We should all bow in a "moment of silence" to show our appreciation to these brave astronauts for guiding us here.



Also Fatdog (more ram + 64bit CPU required)
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/web/

the next Alpha of 5.3 should be out today - that also will be supporting
64bit (eventually) and more memory, with a very up to date 'leet' kernel
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy53

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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 14:29    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
the next Alpha of 5.3 should be out today - that also will be supporting 64bit (eventually) and more memory, with a very up to date 'leet' kernel
@Lobster does that version utilize 4GB RAM and larger on 32bit PCs? I sent 01micko a PM on this, but did not get any reply about SPUP directions.

Could it be you are announcing something that is not apparent on your 5.3 site? And, could you explain the "leet" meaning?
Thanks in advance

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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 14:47    Post subject:  

Gcmartin. Could you fix your announcement for Ice Puppy. It is really Lucid 511 woof build with a lot packages from 520 and 525 also and it uses 16.4.2011 woof atm. Kernel is now 2.6.38.4 lupe20.
It is made with newer woof than Lucid 525.

So it has gone long way from Lucid 511 but has nothing to do with Wary build except using quite latest woof installed scripts and Barrys Puppy stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue 17 May 2011, 21:54    Post subject:  

Thanks for posting. I didnt' know puppy had hardware limitations. Keep up the good work developers.
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PostPosted: Wed 18 May 2011, 03:22    Post subject:  

SimpleWater wrote:
Thanks for posting. I didnt' know puppy had hardware limitations. Keep up the good work developers.

Calling that a "hardware limitation" could potentially mislead people . A normal Puppy still works fine if you have more than 3GB ram - it just doesn't use more than 3GB.

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jun 2011, 22:08    Post subject:  

disciple wrote:

Calling that a "hardware limitation" could potentially mislead people . A normal Puppy still works fine if you have more than 3GB ram - it just doesn't use more than 3GB.


apologies. Indeed that was unfair terminology, i will be more careful
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Dec 2011, 23:14    Post subject:  

gcmartin

Can you transfer this info and any updates to puppylinux.info, please,
[maybe abbreviate title a bit?]
big_bass has written a file transfer tool to assist

http://puppylinux.info/topic.php?id=174#post-1592

thanks

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012, 12:11    Post subject: Re: Have more than 3GB of RAM? You need one of these Puppies  

[quote="gcmartin".[/quote] <major snip>

this is refreshing... to see puppylinux adapting to mega-ram machines...

I wonder, is there a similar effort in puppylinux to accomodate
multiple cores ?

If I have a dual core, is puppylinux using them ?

thanks
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012, 12:37    Post subject: Re: Have more than 3GB of RAM? You need one of these Puppies  

soundNICK wrote:
[quote="gcmartin".
<major snip>

this is refreshing... to see puppylinux adapting to mega-ram machines...

I wonder, is there a similar effort in puppylinux to accomodate
multiple cores ?

If I have a dual core, is puppylinux using them ?

thanks
[/quote]

YES if the kernel is compiled as smp kernel .

The Lupu/luci 2.6.33.2 kernel should work . Don't really know for the Hyper Threading parts .

You can try cpufrequency scaling if you find the .pet somewhere .
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012, 13:51    Post subject: Re: Have more than 3GB of RAM? You need one of these Puppies  

Karl Godt wrote:
soundNICK wrote:
[quote="gcmartin".


YES if the kernel is compiled as smp kernel .

The Lupu/luci 2.6.33.2 kernel should work . Don't really know for the Hyper Threading parts .

You can try cpufrequency scaling if you find the .pet somewhere .


ooo very nice... thanks 2nd time today, Karl Godt, for your replies
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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012, 15:52    Post subject: 32bit PUPs which Use ALL Hyperthreading and ALL RAM you have  

I think FATSlacko and RACY take advantage of BOTH all the Hyperthreading and RAM one can throw at them.

Hope this helps

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012, 07:00    Post subject: Re: 32bit PUPs which Use ALL Hyperthreading and ALL RAM you have  

gcmartin wrote:
I think FATSlacko and RACY take advantage of BOTH all the Hyperthreading and RAM one can throw at them.

Hope this helps


just downloaded FatSlacko... from CD, everything works fine... I dont
know what to look for to check ram / core use, but FatSlacko is such
a nice package... thanks for the suggestion !

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Jul 2012, 10:58    Post subject: Re: 32bit PUPs which Use ALL Hyperthreading and ALL RAM you have  

soundNICK wrote:
Just downloaded FatSlacko... from CD, everything works fine... I dont know what to look for to check ram / core use, but FatSlacko is such a nice package...
All 64bit OSes are designed to handle all of your RAM. With 32bit distros, it depends on whether the author builds the distro for use with 99% of all PC since 1995 OR NOT. (there are some PCs that do NOT have the hardware feature for using RAM over 3.4GB. RAM.)

Hope this helps

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