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Tasgarth

Joined: 06 Oct 2008
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Location: France, Besancon

PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2011, 18:03    Post subject:  

Hi Mick,
half success, but failure at the end: Sad
Test :
I deleted all spups pupsave and sfs.
cd-Live (pfix=ram) > boot 'qwerty' > gunzip fr.gz OK > copy X11/xkb/symbols/pc/fr => it's OK

Personalize Settings (azerty, Europe-Paris, fr,Numlock checked UTC unchecked).....> azerty is OK (Geany) BUT ONLY if I don't restart X SERVER.
Time (Local) is bad.

I get ' azerty' if I don't restart X server and again it's bad if I reboot.
Impossible to get again 'azerty'. Crying or Very sad
Only numlock stays good.
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01micko


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PostPosted: Mon 09 May 2011, 20:55    Post subject:  

Hi Tasgarth

I'm pretty sure this is because of the skinny xorg.conf, this is what I'm working on right now.

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I'm posting the woof 0setup script I'm using that has bugfixes for slackwares PACKAGES.TXT conversion, mainly for safe keeping. It is mainly of interest if you use woof as it is already in the /root/.packages/ folder in spup-120.
0setup.gz
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Filename  0setup.gz 
Filesize  7.27 KB 
Downloaded  189 Time(s) 

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Iguleder


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Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert

PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 05:55    Post subject:  

MinHundHettePerro wrote:
Care to share Smile?


Sure, once it's ready! At the moment I'm doing the first kernel build. I've got EZ-Woof lying somewhere close, I'll build a 5.2.5-conservative with this kernel to see if it works Smile

The script is quite smart now, it creates a directory named "sources" with a patched, clean sources tarball of the kernel, a directory with all vanilla sources and a directory with all patches used. Users who want just to compile some extra driver can use the patched tarball - the patches and the vanilla sources are for those who wish to learn how things are done Smile

The build script creates 3 patches automatically - it resets the version number to 2.6.32, reduces the number of consoles (the kernel default is 8, but Puppy uses only 3 - wastes memory) and reduces the verbosity of the kernel (traditional Puppy hack).

Here's a teaser:
Code:
echo "Resetting the minor version number"
cp Makefile Makefile-orig
sed -i s/'^EXTRAVERSION = .*$'/'EXTRAVERSION = '/ Makefile
diff -up Makefile-orig Makefile > ../dist/sources/patches/extra-version.patch
rm Makefile-orig


EDIT: here's a blog post which explains my view and why this is a good idea Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 11:03    Post subject:  

Hi Mick

Just wondering when the next release might happen? Since this was was a pre-alpha and with all the fixes/updates already made lol next one should almost be a beta Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 10 May 2011, 21:13    Post subject:  

Hi ttuuxxx

Quote:
just wondering when the next release might happen?


Hmmmm.. hopefully some time today Smile (likely tonight)

I'm posting from the draft for the next right now, and I'm 4/4 for boot to desktop on my machines.. 1 nvidia, 2 intel laptops (one of these a eee-701sd and both with synaptics touchpads working and recorded in a full xorg.conf ootb) and 1 desky with intel brookdale troublesome chipset. 2 to go, old p3 with Vanta graphics and oldish athlon 2100+ SiS onboard graphics.

Also working on if your machine wont boot to desktop then it drops you into xorgwizard instead of the prompt. Still testing that.

And no, it wont be anywhere near beta, as beta implies almost there! (I reckon). There is still plenty to do.

EDIT: Now 5/5... the athlon box (SiS) booted to a desktop but the res was weird, but xorgwizard worked and fixed it Smile . I found out why ppp isn't working, libpcap was missing, now I'm online on my 3G modem, so hopefully that fixes aarf's bug.

Now onto the P3.. but when I turned it on (at the mains) my power got knocked out! Hoping it's only the monitor, I have some spares, maybe a spare PSU too.. we'll see.

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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 08:32    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
1 nvidia, 2 intel laptops (one of these a eee-701sd and both with synaptics touchpads working and recorded in a full xorg.conf ootb) and 1 desky with intel brookdale troublesome chipset. 2 to go, old p3 with Vanta graphics and oldish athlon 2100+ SiS onboard graphics.

.... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 08:42    Post subject:  

Crying because of no Xo mention mav? Crying or Very sad

Well now I think xorg is close to sorted (upcoming version) I will do an XO spin in the next week, we'll see how it goes. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 09:06    Post subject:  

Second pre-alpha is out, see main post
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Lobster
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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 10:12    Post subject:  

Cool Alpha 2 - congratulations, I am in

I used the 'Puppy pfix=ram,nox' option and used vesa and the recommended resolution. It was slow to get in but I have a working desktop. Just to let you know Mick Smile

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Béèm


Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 12:54    Post subject:  

This time the 120 didn't run OOTB as the 100 did.
Reboot/poweroff after 1st run did bring me to a black screen and blinking cursor whereas I should have gotten the proposition to create a save file.
The same for CTRL-DEL-BACKSPACE where I didn't get the X prompt.

I took the precaution to run report-video and saw the driver was vesa.

So I did the trick to start with nox.
I could run xorgwizard and the driver chosen was radeon

So for the moment I am up and running.
Code:
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slack Puppy, version 120.50

Chip description:
oem: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7500

Driver used by Xorg:
radeon

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: "1024x768"  Depth: Depth 24

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 13:12    Post subject:  

alpha2 video

Code:
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slack Puppy, version 120.50

Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV710 01.00

Driver used by Xorg:
vesa

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: ""  Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 13:57    Post subject:  

Hi mick,

Frugal installation of spup 120.50 booted fine using the nouveau driver. Only problem noted to date is that the nvidia driver in the spup ppm section does not work.

Code:
# lspci -nn|grep -i vga
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 8400 GS] [10de:06e4] (rev a1)
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slack Puppy, version 120.50

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G98 Board - 05610002 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nouveau

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: "1280x1024"  Depth: Depth 24

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Unfortunately, a full hd installation was not as successful. It booted to a desktop using the nouveau driver, however, there was an error loading the backdrop image and all icons were generic. Mtpaint gives a critical error so I was unable to take a pict. I tried installing pupsnap which appeared to install correctly, but it did not work either. Reinstalled the hd installation with same results so I discontinued testing it.

Cheers,Very Happy
Jim

System: BFG NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS 512MB, Asus P6T Motherboard, Intel core i7-920 (8MB Cache, 2.66 GHz), DDR3 3GB 1333MHz ram, Pioneer DVR-2910 DVD+-RW Dual Layer Burner, Realtek ALC1200 Audio, HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-One

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l2ulinux


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Location: Blountstown, Fl.

PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 14:27    Post subject: Spup
Subject description: Veetle plugins
 

I need everyones help with a problem I am having with Spup-1.00 & 1.20.50. I love to watch internet TV at vettle.com. With Linux you have to download veetle-0.9.17-linux-install.sh and install it as a plugin. I open a terminal in root and type sh veetle-0.9.17-linux-install.sh as the site tell you to. The problem is it should install Veetle Broadcaster Plugin, Veetle TV Core and Veetle TV Player. All it installs is Veetle TV Core.

I have installed it in other version of Puppy and most will let me install all three.
I only have this problem with 4.3.1 and below, Browserlinux based releases and Spup releases.

All help is needed.
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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 14:32    Post subject: Copying files to ntfs with accented characters fail  

Copying files to ntfs with accented characters fail like in spup 100
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JonT

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PostPosted: Wed 11 May 2011, 16:39    Post subject:  

Frugal install of spup-120.50 on Dell Inspiron 1100 with the following (unfortunately) graphics chips:
Code:
# lspci -nn|grep -i vga
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 03)

Booted directly to working desktop, but ran into black screens whenever X attempts to restart, as usual from newer kernels/xorgs. The "Intel" driver occasionally works but mostly doesn't.

What did work for me is a quick reboot to create a save file before changing anything, then reboot with pfix=nox, run xorgwizard and select vesa. From then on, X restarts reliably and reboots are fine without the pfix=nox phrase.

Simple Network Setop had to be run twice to get a wireless connection - the first time it found no network.

To tame my touchpad (touchypad?) I need the synaptics driver to work.
Code:
# synclient -l
Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?
# grep -i synaptic /etc/X11/xorg.conf
   Load "synaptics"
   InputDevice "Synaptics Mouse" "AlwaysCore"
   Identifier "Synaptics Mouse"
   Driver "synaptics"
#

Otherwise looking good with only a casual inspection so far.
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