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01micko


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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 10:07    Post subject:  spup-121.02 pre-alpha3 based on 13.37
Subject description: latest slackware packages 2011-05-26, latest woof
 

Well a 3rd pre alpha is done

Firefox-5-beta1
http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/micko01/stuff/puppy/spup/pet_packages-spup/firefox-5.0b1-i686-spup.pet 15M

NOTE that "fido" (restricted user) is implemented, I recommend not to use fido!

http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/micko01/stuff/puppy/spup/latest/spup-121.02.iso K2.6.35 (.13)
Patched with Iguleders version patch because it's LTS. Using jemimah's DOTconfig from fluppy. This is the main version
http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/micko01/stuff/puppy/kernel-2.6.35/ Kernel source and stuff

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http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/micko01/stuff/puppy/spup/latest/spup-121.01.iso This is the 'dodgy' 2.6.37.6 version. Test/use at your peril!. One advantage is that it has nvidia drivers available. kernel source <-- http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/micko01/stuff/puppy/kernel-2.6.37.6/

DEVX <-- http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/micko01/stuff/puppy/spup/devx_spup_121.02.sfs (change the last digit if needed Wink )

Checksums..
a9fb657a2ac76849b37f88f6a7ddbada spup-121.01.iso
e9d938d7eae6e6688c9ebdc0f873fa21 spup-121.02.iso
99da478b7d65619e53bd13c33ec18e7f devx_spup_121.02.sfs

LOTS OF BUGS
-flsynclient methinks
-usb stick booting (note to pemasu, I think it's a woof bug)
-first run locale change.. "OK" button is off screen for some, hit "enter".
-gparted (needs an update.. or zigbert's frontend to cfdisk Wink )

SOME BUGS FIXED
-hopefully Xorg to some degree
-full installation

NOTE:
If you want KDE get it from PPM, it's large, and also needs *.csh files deleted from /etc/* to work almost properly (SFS soon)

THERE are some surprises Wink


Known issues
*abiword rendering is garbage
*chromium based browsers may or may not work
*PPPOE is updated, needs a test
*inherited woof bugs, usb for one

Fixes
*some big xorg fixes including a full xorg.conf and synaptics support (tho you may not notice, and there is probably more to do)
*keyboard fr/azerty sk/qwertz
*xchat
*seamonkey
*add transmission lite
*start to implement small screen fixes, icons
*devx deps
*ppp
*attempt for pppoe
*gnumeric


Xorg has had a lot of work done to it, if you have issues please report.. I am expecting nvidia issues.


To do

*recompile heaps of stuff, bring stuff up to date, slackbuilds are good place to start. Major libraries should be kept inline with slackware versions. Slackware keep many sources with patches which may be handy.
*fix guis for small screens, they are horrible (status=started)
*decide what icon layout is best.. maybe someone can hack something together for small screens, they are way too cluttered with heaps of icons. (status=started)
*translate... no need to reinvent the wheel here, many of shinobar's wary quickset programs will fit right in.
* fix quickpet for spup
* integrate with olpc work
Extra pets

PPM for spup is working BUT not all packages are compiled for this version

Other notes.

nouveau is back, seems to be better now, at least for me, getting HW acceleration. If it doesn't work for you try nv in xorgwizard and report issues please.
Radeon later model users may have to boot with 'modeset=0' on the kernel line.
To unload nouveau
*boot pfix=nox
*edit xorg.conf in mp (at console)
Code:
mp /etc/X11/xorg.conf

*fine "nouveau" and replace with nv or nvidia
*type xwin to start X


Things to test

*gparted
*grub
*grub4dos
*full installs
*usb
*ntfs/windows partitions
*keyboard

Important note
If you compile/make pets for this version I would like to stick with a naming convention
*a normal script name-versionnumber (hyphen delimited)
*compiled app name-versionnumber-arch (like new2dir does.. please separate DOC,DEV,NLS)
*driver name-`uname -r`-versionnumber
Please, no hyphens in the name, use underscores.
Please post pet.specs if possible.
Optionally you can append "-spup" to the version number, this is recommended. Also, please compile i486, unless the app requires i686 then that's ok, some multimedia apps.

eg: seamonkey-2.1b2-i486-spup

Have fun Smile

***Disclaimer.. I didn't make the first boot image! (though I used it! Looks nice tho, sorry Pat, but we are pre-alpha, this is NOT official)

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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 10:28    Post subject: Re: spup-120 pre-alpha based on 13.37
Subject description: latest slackware packages
 

01micko wrote:
*printing failed for me

What printer are you installing? I did a number of quick tests and it looks OK.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 10:31    Post subject:  

canon MP490, but I didn't try too hard and I have a number of pets, maybe a different one would work but the one I tried worked in spup100, maybe a libusb thing.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 11:19    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
canon MP490, but I didn't try too hard and I have a number of pets, maybe a different one would work but the one I tried worked in spup100, maybe a libusb thing.

I tested my MP490 with Patriot's original driver and it worked fine. I then installed my pixma scanner driver (which contains the libusb-1.0 stuff) along with Peasyscan and it worked too.

If you boot spup with the MP490 already ON, you get the stupid red dots. But it still works.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 15:07    Post subject:  

Thanks for this leet pre alpha Smile

Tried the spup leet on my old computer and it booted up OK and I got a connection (it displayed my password rather than using (****) stars
So could use that as a test machine . . . Cool

The graphic card in the old computer is a "Savage* PCI (sorry not a good report)

My Athlon which has a radeon I tried everything, vesa, tweaking, booting options etc and could not get a graphic resolution that worked. Crying or Very sad

This is the non working graphic as reported by Lucid:
Code:
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 525

Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV710 01.00

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution:  Depth 24  Depth: 0

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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 15:42    Post subject:  

Hi 01micko

Your new spup full iso booted to desktop successfully on my HP550 laptop frugal install

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a12] (rev 0c)

Couple of problems

FlSynchclient does not work - says a Synaptics driver is missing - so I can't scroll or setup the touchpad - seem to remember this was a problem in early lupu's

the clock is wrong - displaying -22hours on real time

urxvt gave a bash warning about not being able to set locale

my wifi had its usual "die after a time problem" so I've loaded the lupu stay-connected pet and this seems to be working after a reboot

on the plus side, pnethood connected lightning fast Smile

Cheers
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 16:27    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of Spup 120 on the old P3 test box. Everything..... sound,internet and display....... working and correct on initial boot.

-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 254MB (122MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.12
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon May 2 15:21:41 2011
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH


VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133
Multimedia audio controller : Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller
Ethernet controller : Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100

Using the terminal gets.....

bash: warning: setlocale: LC_COLLATE: cannot change locale (en_US): No such file or directory

On to installing stuff and more testing. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 16:39    Post subject:  

Installed Conky from Salix repo, shows missing libs but it's working.
However, MTPaint screenshot is not.....launches,but after picking a delay before taking the shot, nothing.

EDIT: SeaMonkey just crashed when submitting this post. And I never have browser crashes. Laughing


# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 254240 246476 7764 0 13724
Swap: 1020092 61140 958952
Total: 1274332 307616 966716
#
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 17:55    Post subject:  

Even though you recommended not too, I installed Mesa from the Brainwave repo....

# glxgears
2458 frames in 5.0 seconds = 491.523 FPS
2450 frames in 5.0 seconds = 489.611 FPS
2422 frames in 5.0 seconds = 484.376 FPS
2396 frames in 5.0 seconds = 479.082 FPS
2166 frames in 5.0 seconds = 432.900 FPS
2374 frames in 5.0 seconds = 474.197 FPS
2509 frames in 5.0 seconds = 501.645 FPS
2263 frames in 5.0 seconds = 451.322 FPS

No problems with detecting my usb flash drives, no problem with timezone...... well, timezone is staying as "US Central" but must reset time every reboot.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 18:55    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 19:17    Post subject: Preliminary Testing  

I am posting from a frugal install on the following hardware:

Quote:
-Computer-
Processor : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3200+
Memory : 1228MB (126MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.12
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun May 1 15:52:57 2011
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ATIIXP - ATI IXP
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>
HP_Deskjet_F4400_series
-SCSI Disks-
ATA HDS728080PLAT20
LITE-ON COMBO SOHC-4836K
Generic USB SD Reader
Generic USB CF Reader
Generic USB SM Reader
Generic USB MS Reader


I have done some testing worth reporting.

What works:

Printer - Successfully installed hpliplite package and printed test page to HP Deskjet F4440 all in one

Scanner - Xsane found the Deskjet F4440 and successfully scanned the test page

CD/DVD - Played music from cd and ripped cd with Asunder and played back with pmusic

X auto configured and booted straight to desktop

Manually downloaded the spup Mesa utilities to upgrade video driver due to inability to download from the setup menu - tested with glxgears

Quote:

$glxgears
759 frames in 5.0 seconds = 151.778 FPS
796 frames in 5.0 seconds = 159.069 FPS
796 frames in 5.0 seconds = 159.126 FPS
811 frames in 5.0 seconds = 162.055 FPS
815 frames in 5.0 seconds = 162.942 FPS
817 frames in 5.0 seconds = 163.252 FPS
806 frames in 5.0 seconds = 161.068 FPS
800 frames in 5.0 seconds = 159.905 FPS
820 frames in 5.0 seconds = 163.919 FPS
829 frames in 5.0 seconds = 165.685 FPS
800 frames in 5.0 seconds = 159.845 FPS
804 frames in 5.0 seconds = 160.724 FPS
800 frames in 5.0 seconds = 159.860 FPS
832 frames in 5.0 seconds = 166.132 FPS
809 frames in 5.0 seconds = 161.745 FPS
752 frames in 5.0 seconds = 150.203 FPS
748 frames in 5.0 seconds = 149.409 FPS
859 frames in 5.0 seconds = 171.680 FPS
836 frames in 5.0 seconds = 166.968 FPS



I created a fresh save file and installed the mesa utilities from the slackware official repository as suggested. These are the results.

Quote:
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
2142 frames in 5.0 seconds = 428.326 FPS
2490 frames in 5.0 seconds = 497.976 FPS
2474 frames in 5.0 seconds = 494.778 FPS
2470 frames in 5.0 seconds = 493.973 FPS
2462 frames in 5.0 seconds = 492.374 FPS
2483 frames in 5.0 seconds = 496.575 FPS
2470 frames in 5.0 seconds = 493.969 FPS
2458 frames in 5.0 seconds = 491.468 FPS
2470 frames in 5.0 seconds = 493.522 FPS
2484 frames in 5.0 seconds = 496.665 FPS
2468 frames in 5.0 seconds = 493.523 FPS
2480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 495.913 FPS
2455 frames in 5.0 seconds = 490.890 FPS
2484 frames in 5.0 seconds = 496.776 FPS
2471 frames in 5.0 seconds = 494.176 FPS
2482 frames in 5.0 seconds = 496.376 FPS
2436 frames in 5.0 seconds = 487.174 FPS
2478 frames in 5.0 seconds = 495.580 FPS


SD Card successfully auto mounted when inserted into internal multi card reader

Streaming video from youtube.

Gnome Mplayer works

epdfview does not work - complains about libpoppler-glib.so.4 - I symlinked that from libpoppler-glib.so and epdfview worked.

Quote:
*chromium based browsers may or may not work


I have experienced a great deal of frustration with chromium-browser version 12 in different puppies lately.

Overall: Looking pretty good so far.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 19:57    Post subject:  

Hi mick

Download it now, when it comes to the naming/posting the pet.specs for compiled packages, Is a pain, I never get it right, lol And things like posting the pet.specs, well that's no bad for single files, but If I'm compiling an app that takes like 6 deps, Thats a very big pain to compile and stop post the spec, then compile again and post the spec, etc etc etc etc. I'll give it a try.

On another note, will this turn into puppy 6?

Also I haven't booted with it yet but are you open to a few substitutions if this has the deps needed? like ditch Epdf for Evince since its 10 times better at rendering and renders a lot of extra formats, like SVG,comic etc, really would only work if gconf is included in spup, I guess I'll find out in a min from now Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 20:02    Post subject:  

dawsnboy- a symlink will fix it, for now, ln -s /usr/lib/libpoppler-glib.so.6.0.0 /usr/lib/libpoppler-glib.so.4. That's a stop gap measure, needs a epdfviewer recompile

James C, yep seamomnkey needs a recompile

peebee, there is definitely a timezone bug, investigating, will look into fsynclient

Lobster, can you run the command in the first post on your radeon? Any puppy will give the same result.

ttuuxxx , the pet.specs isn't as important as the naming Wink You can append "-spup" to the version too if you like, would help some users I guess. I don't know if this will even go official, don't care Razz so I can't say if it will be 5, 5.3, 6 or whatever... oh and tuuxxx, I'm open to suggestions, all depends on size and functionality, you know, bang 4 byte Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 20:25    Post subject:  

Hi mick

I don't see gconf, hmmmm A lot of gtk apps these day use Gconf and it should really be a part of puppy, things like Gcalctool which is a way better calculator than Galculator, Evince, Metacity, etc etc.
I'll compile some basics and see what you think. Personally I would included it.

Oh ya one nice surprise is seeing Parcellite on at bootup, that just makes life so much nicer Smile great job on that, I like the background, basic yet effective and clear.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 May 2011, 20:31    Post subject:  

hmm .. looks like devx is broken.. investigating

ok, needs

libmpc
cxxlibs
libelf

do a search in PPM for now, they are there

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