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playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

This is the release of
Instant Update 001 for Lucid Puppy 5.2.5 (known as the Bigpup Update) ->
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/Lucid525-InstantUpdate-001.pet
The update
--> fixes Bootflash which did not work in the release of Lucid 5.2.5
--> fixes xgamma-gui which did not work in the release of Lucid 5.2.5
--> updates Psync to be aware of both UTC and local system time
--> updates Firewallstate to leave program icon off on reboot when turned off
--> adds report-video-glx which might be a useful standard for diagnosing video issues
--> adds ffconvert to convert between video formats
--> updates the Lupu PPM in Puppy Package Manager
--> links Help to LupuNews Help

The pet is 132KB.
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Béèm · Posted: Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:10 Post subject:

Thank you playdayz,
Will this pet 'eat' from my save file?

runtt21 · Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1580 Location: BigD Texas

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

Béèm · Posted: Tue 26 Apr 2011, 17:15 Post subject:

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

runtt21 · Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1580 Location: BigD Texas

Ok you mean the icon stays off. Sorry . That just looked strange to me.

tasmod · Posted: Tue 26 Apr 2011, 20:10 Post subject:

Firewallstate,
Yep as playdayz says, by request it can be removed and stay off.

Sorry Larry, Psync now up to version 2.1 with changes that reflect UTC as a choice for hardware clock (and follows first setup window tick box). The report window reflects this and will update accordingly from the net.

playdayz · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 3705

gcmartin · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 2628 Location: Earth

Leave F/W off.

It is too confusing for newbies and experienced people too when trying to install and test LAN/WAN/NAS/SAN communicating applications when not knowing how to manipulate that F/W.

It would be in everyone's best interest to leave it off and allow the user to select the time-frame for turning on the F/W,

One thing that should ALSO help is when the PUPPY F/W is turned on, there should have been and there should be some explanation on how to disable it when necessary or when testing in needed. None exist, today when the F/W is activated in ANY Puppy. A pop-up on activation/deactivation directions-message would be wise and beneficial. Further, useful messages like this should NOT be considered to be bloat, either.

Hope this helps.

tasmod · Posted: Wed 27 Apr 2011, 04:05 Post subject:

I agree with this.

I haven't changed the default. Firewall is off at first boot.

It's just that firewallstate tray icon has a menu entry now to close and remove the app itself. i.e. it doesn't reappear after a reboot.

There is a On/Off for the firewall in the right click menu if the firewall is installed. This is where I started with this small app, I was testing LAN and Printers on network. Smile

ICPUG · Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 1277 Location: UK

Firewall OFF by default

I cannot wait for Randsec to come along and proffer his wisdom on this topic! Better get your asbestos trousers on!

It is nice to see some reasons for the default off though, even if I am not entirely sure it is a good idea for the kind of newbie that cannot do anything for themselves.

bigpup · Posted: Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:03 Post subject:

Suggestion,

Help in the menu
Help on the desktop

Both of these should point to the help page in Lucid Puppy News.
http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/index4.html

There is more and better help here.
The present help gives no help about problems and some of it is outdated.
The page could be placed in /usr/share/ doc so internet connection not required to read.

If you do not want to drop the present help, at least add this page as say
Menu->help-> Lucid puppy help

scsijon · Posted: Wed 27 Apr 2011, 18:20 Post subject:

@bigpup - problem is if the puppy is just starting up and doesn't have internet setup, initial info needs to be local, maybe what's needed is that it includes a pointer to the url.

regards
scsijon

bigpup · Posted: Wed 27 Apr 2011, 18:35 Post subject:

If you put a copy of the Lucid Puppy News help page in /usr/share/doc it will be local.
That is how help works now.
Help opens the file index.html in /usr/share/doc