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p310don

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 19:35    Post subject:  

hmmm, bug?

In quickpet, not much is working - at all. Will try again later.
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 19:56    Post subject: Testing IcePuppy-003  

Problem
IcePuppy-003 System is not registering all of memory on 4GB system. Same problem as other 32bit PUPs without PAE support. See memory iin the attached report

Hope this helps.
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 20:07    Post subject: Re: Testing IcePuppy-003  

gcmartin wrote:
Problem
IcePuppy-003 System is not registering all of memory on 4GB system. Same problem as other 32bit PUPs without PAE support. See memory iin the attached report

Hope this helps.


If you had taken the time to read a few posts a bit earlier in the thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=515707#515707

it would have been obvious that highmem didn't work in 003.
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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 1936
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 20:19    Post subject: IcePuppy-003 and 004 RHE release Really Highly Experimental  

Here's a frugal install of icepup04 on my acer desktop.

Summary
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 8310MB (188MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 21 Apr 2011 08:08:27 PM EDT
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 22:44:43 GMT-8 2011
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler GNU C Compiler version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5)
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.00

I can't install the proprietary video driver on this pc or the hp
without the kernelsources.sfs but it's no big deal if it's a lot of
work to provide it.I have snowpuppy 16 on both computers and can use
that, also several other pups and dogs Smile
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5453
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 21:38    Post subject:  

Ice Puppy 004 live pfix=ram on the main Linux box.Everything working on initial boot, internet,sound and display.

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (182MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Apr 2011 08:33:23 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235


# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1034492 600832 433660 0 69392
Swap: 1228936 0 1228936
Total: 2263428 600832 1662596

sh-4.1# glxgears
427 frames in 5.0 seconds
464 frames in 5.0 seconds
452 frames in 5.0 seconds
338 frames in 5.0 seconds

I'll try 003(non PAE) in a few to compare.
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5453
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 22:02    Post subject:  

Back on the multi-session DVD on the Quad.Everything was saved to DVD from first session as intended.
Can confirm that Quickpet only downloads some packages, installed Chromium but no go with Pwidgets.

Looks pretty good here with 4 gb, no sense in my upping my ram....Billtoo seems to have that covered. Smile
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5453
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 22:35    Post subject:  

Ice Puppy 003 (non-PAE) live pfix=ram on the main Linux box.

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (174MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Apr 2011 09:26:15 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

Ice Pup 003 appears to be using a bit less ram than 004.

Time for a little break..... Laughing
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr 2011, 22:58    Post subject: IcePuppy-004 report  

ICEPUP-004 rreports as expected. See report.

Fabulous effort.

thanks
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James C


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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2011, 01:02    Post subject:  

To try to discover the impact of a PAE kernel on the more typical Puppy hardware, I dug another old computer out of the closet and did 2 frugal installs with 003 and 004.Using 003 right now.Have already rebooted and created a save file.

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
Memory : 254MB (118MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Apr 2011 11:00:06 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA686A - VIA 82C686A/B rev20

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 254828 247024 7804 0 22332
Swap: 1076316 484 1075832
Total: 1331144 247508 1083636

# glxgears
110 frames in 5.0 seconds
113 frames in 5.0 seconds
106 frames in 5.0 seconds
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James C


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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2011, 01:17    Post subject:  

Frugal install of 004 (PAE) same box.

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
Memory : 254MB (129MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Apr 2011 11:16:01 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation

f# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 254804 247100 7704 0 22488
Swap: 1076316 0 1076316
Total: 1331120 247100 1084020
#
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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Posts: 5459
Location: Finland

PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2011, 02:28    Post subject:  

I need to do other unfinished jobs for awhile. But Thank you of your reports. It looks like Intel Atom and Highmem combo has been accepted warmly.
Quickpet bug. I believe it might be just missing database files in /root/.packages. Go to the Puppy Package Manager and Update database now in the second page of PPM. I got quickpet working with updating files.
I remember now that I removed older Puppy database files from woof so that there would less files to choose when I did woof builds again and again. LOL.
Could someone test this and report that I can inform the fix in the first page.

Highmem + PAE. Yes, it uses about 20 Mb more RAM. That is why it is good that there is 486 cpu version without Highmem + PAE. If you have 4 Gb
or more RAM, there is no problem with + 20 Mb usage.

Billtoo. I will upload the kernel sources quite soon. Need to do something else first.

James C. Thank you of your tireless testing with several hw. It looks like the builds are quite usable.
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2011, 02:58    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:

James C. Thank you of your tireless testing with several hw. It looks like the builds are quite usable.


No problem, looks like a slow weekend here.Both releases are most certainly usable...........Great job. Smile
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pemasu


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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2011, 03:57    Post subject:  

Gcmartin. I knew about that hostname and rox bug. I have made the pet of 01mickos fix for it earlier.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=509777#509777

I just didnt remember to update it to the woof. Fixed. Will be implemented through woof in next builds. Thank you of finding that out.
To fix it. Install the pet from above link.
Anyway that bug does not have effect if you dont change your default hostname from puppypc to something other.

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2011, 04:16    Post subject:  

To get core temp on the tray, I remade rcrsn51 core temp pet. I removed those libs and bins which are already included. Nothing changed in scripts.
It shows only temp of 2 cores on my 4 core laptop. But anyway. It seems to work that much.
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Béèm


Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Posts: 11782
Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win

PostPosted: Fri 22 Apr 2011, 04:43    Post subject:  

For the moment I use gatotray
I have tested rsrcn51's pet also (in Lucid).

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