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myke
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Temperature

#41 Post by myke »

Pemasu, I did some searching on the internet and found a procedure in Ubuntu to determine how temperature is controlled for a computer. For the model named below (AAO D255E), it turned out using the commands in Ubuntu:

sensors-detect
sensors

that the module coretemp reports the temperature of the CPU. I was able to get Ubuntu to load the module automatically at start-up. I don't know how the Ubuntu Operating System uses the information to activate the fan.

On further searching, if the above sensors pet is installed, should compile and install psensors - the ultimate graphic sensor monitoring tool. I will try and report back.

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#42 Post by pemasu »

Myke. That Lm-sensors deb and libsensors deb includes sensors and sensors-detect binaries. And they work.
In kernel thermal sysfs and hwmon must be enabled and that was tricky.
If I had thermal sysfs included as static, not as module, there wasnt option for hwmon choice. And also AAO acerhdf wasnt shown under X86 menu entry.
When I enabled thermal sysfs as module I got both those other choices and that enables lm-sensors usage also.
But acpitool or from menu Hardinfo dont show temp info anymore.
Well, at Easter I have more time play with latest build and test it.

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#43 Post by pemasu »

Myke. Xsensor gives also graphical info. I downloaded that psensor package and compiled it. Thank you of the tip.
I will test it. and post also the pet or include it to the next Ice Puppy straight.
It looks like Ice Puppy-002 does not have relevant kernel modules compiled in, so ppl have to wait next Ice Puppy before testing.
I have now highmem and PAE compiled in. It means that 4 Gb ram is shown as that and Ice Puppy also supports ram more than 4 Gb. Side effects. It will use ram about 20 mb more than without it.
This probably will not be the last one. It is just for testing and for those who want Puppy to recognize 4 gb or more ram as it is.
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#44 Post by James C »

Still running a frugal install on the old P4 test box, no problems.Seems pretty stable.

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#45 Post by James C »

pemasu wrote: I have now highmem and PAE compiled in. It means that 4 Gb ram is shown as that and Ice Puppy also supports ram more than 4 Gb. Side effects. It will use ram about 20 mb more than without it.
This probably will not be the last one. It is just for testing and for those who want Puppy to recognize 4 gb or more ram as it is.
Guess I'll need to stick more ram in the old P4 box. :)

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#46 Post by nooby »

myke thanks for that tip it says
# sensors-detect
# sensors-detect revision 5818 (2010-01-18 17:22:07 +0100)
# System: Acer Aspire one (laptop)

This program will help you determine which kernel modules you need
to load to use lm_sensors most effectively. It is generally safe
and recommended to accept the default answers to all questions,
unless you know what you're doing.

Some south bridges, CPUs or memory controllers contain embedded sensors.
Do you want to scan for them? This is totally safe. (YES/no): YES
Silicon Integrated Systems SIS5595... No
VIA VT82C686 Integrated Sensors... No
VIA VT8231 Integrated Sensors... No
AMD K8 thermal sensors... No
AMD Family 10h thermal sensors... No
AMD Family 11h thermal sensors... No
Intel Core family thermal sensor... No
Intel Atom thermal sensor... Success!
(driver `coretemp')
Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor... No
VIA C7 thermal sensor... No
VIA Nano thermal sensor... No

Some Super I/O chips contain embedded sensors. We have to write to
standard I/O ports to probe them. This is usually safe.
Do you want to scan for Super I/O sensors? (YES/no):
So it show I need Intel Atom thermal sensor... Success!
(driver `coretemp')

what happens if I continue that q and a?


I stopped at this one :
Lastly, we can probe the I2C/SMBus adapters for connected hardware
monitoring devices. This is the most risky part, and while it works
reasonably well on most systems, it has been reported to cause trouble
on some systems.
Do you want to probe the I2C/SMBus adapters now? (YES/no):
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#47 Post by pemasu »

James C. About useless for me also. But someone has shown interest for it and in this testing phase it is easy to made one build with highmem and PAE enabled.

I could do one build with real time rt latency enabled also for musicians, lol. Like in Puppy Studio.

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#48 Post by James C »

pemasu wrote:James C. About useless for me also. But someone has shown interest for it and in this testing phase it is easy to made one build with highmem and PAE enabled.

I could do one build with real time rt latency enabled also for musicians, lol. Like in Puppy Studio.
I do have an AMD quad-core with lots of ram running the evil Windows 7 Ultimate. Probably run it on that box from a multi-session DVD and try it out.
You know I'll have to test it.

Probably keep it away from the boxes with 256 mb of ram though... :lol:

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#49 Post by pemasu »

IcePuppy-003 has been released. See the first post.

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#50 Post by James C »

Ice Puppy 003 on multi-session DVD......AMD quad-core w/4 gb of ram.
Everything is working on boot.

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2854MB (196MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Apr 2011 02:49:59 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia


-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 19:18:06 EEST 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Puppy Linux 0.00
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)
-
sh-4.1# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 2854512 625088 2229424 0 70400
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 2854512 625088 2229424
sh-4.1#


I know it's got 4 gb of ram cause I built it myself... :lol:

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#51 Post by pemasu »

James C. I know. 486 cpu option with highmem dont work. 486 disabled my highmem selection and dropped it to the 4 gb option. I just didnt notice it when I went through kernel parameters with make menuconfig.
I made new compile with intel atom + highmem + PAE. I will upload it tomorrow.
But Ice Puppy-003 is now useful for most cpus.

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#52 Post by James C »

pemasu wrote:James C. I know. 486 cpu option with highmem dont work. 486 disabled my highmem selection and dropped it to the 4 gb option. I just didnt notice it when I went through kernel parameters with make menuconfig.
I made new compile with intel atom + highmem + PAE. I will upload it tomorrow.
But Ice Puppy-003 is now useful for most cpus.
Everything else was working fine.Sound,internet and even the 1366x768 resolution were good on initial boot.

I'm one of those who, if I'm worried about using all the ram over 3 gb, will just use a 64 bit os.But, if you build it I'll test it.... :lol:

Just for informational purposes, this box actually runs Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and XP Pro 32 bit........ Xp uses less resources and runs much cooler.

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Ice Puppy-003 RHE release (Really Highly Experimental)

#53 Post by Billtoo »

Here's icepup03 on my hp desktop.

From hardinfo in icepup 03:

Summary
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 3374MB (132MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 21 Apr 2011 04:01:38 PM EDT
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 19:18:06 EEST 2011
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.00

From hardinfo in fatdog 64:

Summary
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8186MB (653MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Mon 21 Feb 2011 04:24:44 PM GMT+5
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.35.7 (x86_64)
Compiled #1 SMP Tue Nov 9 00:23:48 GMT+5 2010
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.50

Will try icepup04 when it's posted.

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#54 Post by pemasu »

James C and Billtoo. Thank you of your reports. I am already uploading Ice Puppy-004. It is compiled with Intel Atom optimization + highmem + PAE. James C and Billtoo should get better ram results with that version.
I would say Ice Puppy-004 is quite responsive. Posting from it.

I will post when it is uploaded.

About 64 bit Puppy OS. Kirk has done outstanding job with it together with Jamesbond. I cant compare my job with their work.

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#55 Post by pemasu »

Ice Puppy-004 has been released. It has cpu optimization for Intel Atom + highmem 64 Gb + PAE. Otherwise it is the same as Ice Puppy-003 build.
Keucr and acerhdf are included.

gcmartin

Tested IcePuppy-003 and attaching performance findings

#56 Post by gcmartin »

Happy to report performance improvement on a 32bit laptop without 4GB using ICEPUP-003. See reports attached

Hope this helps
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#57 Post by p310don »

my 3 main pc's are an eeepc with an atom processor, and media pc with an nvidia ion atom based pc, and an amd with 4gig ram.....

Pemasu, did you make this especially just for me? Seems like it. Downloading now. Will (hopefully) heap lots of thanks and praise soon :)

gcmartin

Bug repair

#58 Post by gcmartin »

Theie is a bug report of a phenomenon afftecting ROXfiler. It affects the GUI performance and is evident when the system's hostname does NOT match the contents of the /etc/hosts file.

Shinobar's "FirstRUN" was suppose to be updated (I thought) such that when a user sets the hostname it also sets the /etc/hosts file correctly.

ICEPUP-003 does not have the fix in the system. It is NOT a show stopper, but it does affect the file manager performance. It was fixed within the last couple months and most PUP distros have adopted it.

Hope this helps
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#59 Post by James C »

Ice Pup 004..... same hardware as above.(Don't feel like adding any ram at the moment :) )

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 3884MB (189MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 21 Apr 2011 06:23:45 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 3884608 619612 3264996 0 70728
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 3884608 619612 3264996
#

I'll try to do some comparison testing with 003 and 004 on some more typical Puppy hardware over the weekend.Forecast is for lots of rain and storms so I should have some free time.
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IcePuppy-003 and 004 RHE release Really Highly Experimental

#60 Post by Billtoo »

From hardinfo in icepup 03:

Summary
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 3374MB (132MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 21 Apr 2011 04:01:38 PM EDT
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 19:18:06 EEST 2011
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.00

From hardinfo in fatdog 64:

Summary
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8186MB (653MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Mon 21 Feb 2011 04:24:44 PM GMT+5
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.35.7 (x86_64)
Compiled #1 SMP Tue Nov 9 00:23:48 GMT+5 2010
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.50

From hardinfo in icepup 04:

Summary
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8310MB (147MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 21 Apr 2011 07:08:26 PM EDT
Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.38.2 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Apr 21 22:44:43 GMT-8 2011
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.00

It sees all the ram in 04.

BTW..Snowpuppy 016 works great, lots of choices for applications and I like being able to increase the size of the save file by up to 8gb in one reboot.

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