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PostPosted: Thu 07 Apr 2011, 00:48    Post subject:  

cowboy. Well, I was quite adamant that there wont be Insidious 003 done by me. The package base changes so often, because sid is test bed. Now they test the next debian generation. Xorg is 7.6 which havent be used in puppies so far.
And I tested it. X wont start with old xorg specs. It would need better X understanding to fix that than I have.

But never say never again......lol
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 13:47    Post subject: Browser Problem  

Not sure if anyone can help but... I encountered a slight problem with my Iron Browser in 002.

I used to be able to open file, go to any HTML program left-click on it and it would open right up in my Iron Browser. For some reason, this function has stopped and now when I click, nothing happens... any suggestions? Sad

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2011, 01:34    Post subject:  

I am trying to make puppy with the last packages of Sid Debian but give me error on the Rox icons , thats shows triangle red withe , question mark icons in all place.

How I solve that??

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2011, 02:00    Post subject: Re: Browser Problem  

sszindian wrote:
Not sure if anyone can help but... I encountered a slight problem with my Iron Browser in 002.

I used to be able to open file, go to any HTML program left-click on it and it would open right up in my Iron Browser. For some reason, this function has stopped and now when I click, nothing happens... any suggestions? Sad

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I apology if I am wrong but that is not related to Insid as I get it that is how all puppy are set up so I think you are more lucky to get an answer if you ask that in teh Beginners part of the forum.

I also want to know. I remember vaguely that one need to change a config script but it can also be done by right clicking a html file and then go to Chose run action and you write iron instead of default browser.

But the right way to do it is edit the script for defaultbrowser config or something and there write iron.

But I could be badly wrong. I let the Insid guys decide but why not test what I suggested. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2011, 06:32    Post subject: HTML No-Find  

Thanks nooby!

I tried re-writing the code in default browser script and changed it to Iron but, that didn't work... if fact, I was surprized to see 'firefox' there when I went in as I never use firefox in .002. Makes me wonder if there is any worth to that script at all ?

Anyway, we'll keep after it, I'm sure something will pop up eventually! But, I guess it really won't much matter as there are no plans to continue 002. Real shame as it was (to date anyway) the 'FASTEST PUPPY' of the whole lot and really had some super features.

Oh well... that's the times we live in, hard to keep up to what's happening and I'm afraid it's not going to get any better but... for sure more interesting!

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2011, 08:11    Post subject:  

But if you go the manual root you don't need any script.

Right click on a html file that yo uhave saved on the hdd or whereever.

Look at the right panel in the popup. There beolow the middle? it says

Set run level and you click on that one and up comes a new popup and there your write iron but maybe you need to know what the iron browser really is named. could be SRwareIron something I have not tested I use I have an icon on the desktop.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr 2011, 02:42    Post subject:  

I resolve the problem of the icons I talk previously, changing the gtk+by the spup one and changing the gdk pisbuf by the quirky also have to change libpng by the spup also. The libjpg also has to be add from spup the 8 version.

Just in case someone has the same problem!
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jul 2011, 18:27    Post subject:  

added to wiki, update and expand as you like ; -)
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/InsidiousPuppy

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Jul 2011, 23:57    Post subject:  

darkcity wrote:
added to wiki, update and expand as you like ; -)
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/InsidiousPuppy

The wiki entry for Insidious Pup is looking good so far. Nothing there that's too controversial.
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Oct 2011, 17:20    Post subject:    

its a peaceful wiki page.

I want to make a template for Derivative page, but I'm not sure what is the key information to include ; -)

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Sep 2012, 06:14    Post subject: Traduction en français de la présentation Insidious puppy
Subject description: Quote in french your information about your 'insidous Puppy'
 

Insidious Puppy est une puppy, construite à partir de paquets de Debian Sid qui met l'accent sur la stabilité, facilité d'utilisation à long terme et le retour d’expérience. Ses principales qualités sont une haute compatibilité avec Debian et Lucid Puppy, une bonne sélection des applications (via les dépôts de Debian), une excellente offre multimédia et un bon soutien matériel.

Il ne boote pas directement sur le Bureau (pour une meilleure compatibilité avec du matériel vidéo particulier), a un véritable navigateur et a son propre référentiel de paquets en PPM.

Il est plus développé que Lucid Puppy et suit de près les mises à jour récentes de Woof. Il est composé d'environ 90 % des paquets Debian, alors que Lucid Puppy 5.1 ne comprend qu’environ 65 % de paquets Ubuntu.
Osez me faire part de vos critiques (positives et négatives).

Faites-moi savoir si vous avez des idées de pets à proposer, je peux les rajouter au catalogue.

Merci à pemasu pour le nom et merci au créateur du logo que j’ai juste modifié.

Qu’a-t-il de plus que les autres ?

Les paquets Insidious Puppy offrent un bon compromis entre stabilité et technologies de pointe. Insidious Puppy fournit un juste équilibre entre ancien et nouveau. Il se compose de paquets Debian plutôt récents, stables et d’un noyau légèrement plus vieux.

Insidious Puppy est plutôt une Puppy ‘générique’ qui ne vise pas un public ou un matériel spécifique, qui a toutes les applications nécessaires à votre travail quotidien, dont un navigateur web, un client de messagerie électronique, un traitement de texte, un tableur, un lecteur multimédia.
Insidious Puppy fonctionne pour une meilleure stabilité avec le noyau long-term-support Linux 2.6.32.26, .

Insidious Puppy dispose de la suite Internet Iceape (Seamonkey remastérisé) , qui comprend un navigateur Internet, un client de courrier électronique et un carnet d'adresses.
Aussi, Insidious Puppy est équipé de :
- MPLAYER et de GNOME-MPLAYER, Guvcview, Alsaplayer, Asunder, Sweep et d'autres applications pour offrir une grande suite multimédia.
- Xorg_High (qui est fabuleux) , qui ne gaspille pas d'espace dans le fichier de sauvegarde et permet tout de go les fonctions 3D .
- GNU Paint, mtPaint, fotoxx and gtkam du côté photographie, pour gérer aisément vos appareils numériques, faire des albums et de la retouche d’images. - Simple Scan, Transmission, xchat, gcalctool, gToDo, xpad, Leafpad, xbindkeys, gFTP et beaucoup d’autres.
J’ai mis beaucoup d’applications différentes des applis traditionnelles de Puppy (meilleures ? affaire d’opinion) .

Insidious Puppy a un bon choix d'icônes , un beau fond d'écran (KDE) et une gamme d’élégants thèmes GTK (Xfce). Il inclue un jeu de polices qui rend agréable à l’oeil la navigation web et le travail de bureau, jeu compatible avec d'autres distributions Linux. Il prend même en charge les langues ‘de droite à gauche’ et les langues exotiques (grâce à ses polices Debian). Il supporte les polices locales pour satisfaire l'utilisateur final.

Insidious Puppy a trouvé de chouettes trucs : la touche "impression d'écran" , et suspend-to-RAM et Fn+Zz, Parcellite, ppower, wcpufreq ... la liste est trop longue. Gravez une copie et voyez de vous-mêmes.

Quel est le cycle de validation ?

Tout simplement : "validation au bon moment". C'est ce que font les gars de Debian et de nombreux développeurs de puplet. Cà fonctionne très bien au vu de la qualité de ce qu’ils font.

Je veux faire de Insidious Puppy une sorte de "LTS" Puppy avant de partir à l’armée. Je pense écrire un guide complet de construction d’un Insidious Puppy (y compris du noyau et d'un référentiel PPM officieux), pour ceux qui n'apprécient pas sa grosseur due à Xorg_High, Iceape et aux pilotes modem. Cela pourrait inspirer les développeurs qui veulent marquer la différence entre une version personnalisée et une version Puppy ‘tout inclus’.

Oh, une dernière chose - je prévoie de monter "trinitypup" - une Puppy avec Trinity (une copie de KDE 3.x) avec Woof.

Si vous n'aimez pas Lucid Puppy, Quirky et les autres versions 5x, et que vous êtes du type aventurier, cette version conçue spécialement pour vous pourrait vous intéresser.

A partir du Pentium II, Insidious Puppy est compatible avec pratiquement tous les processeurs 86 x (comme toute autre puppy) . Il devrait supporter quasiment le même matériel que les puppies de génération 5.x et même plus, son noyau ayant une gamme plus large de pilotes. Il prend en charge rfkill, Hyperthreading - économiseur de puissance pour les cartes son -, GPIO, les échelles de fréquence CPU et plus de choses que la plupart des autres puppies. Il a même acpi_call (utile pour les machines à GPUs multiples), quelques pilotes modem, et ndiswrapper.

Tant que vous avez suffisamment de RAM, Insidious Puppy est généralement plus rapide que la plupart des puppies, grâce à son noyau et ses astuces d’optimisation du i686, . Etant plus gros, Insidious Puppy pourrait tourner moins vite sur des machines avec des RAMs de moins de 128 MB, mais si vous faites une installation complète sur une partition de disque dur, il devrait y faire mieux que les autres puppies.

Téléchargement :

Insidious Puppy 001, sortie le 28 novembre, monté avec Woof (celui de Luci 240 et Quirky 1.4, avec le pet ZZZ) -
ISO: inpu-001.iso
devx: inpu_devx_001.sfs
MD5 sums: md5sums.txt

Une fois installé, allez dans le gestionnaire de paquets PPM, cliquez "Configure package manager" et mettez à jour la liste des paquets. Ainsi, vous aurez à disposition Nvidia drivers, Flash, Skype et Pidgin.
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Jul 2013, 05:22    Post subject: Re: Insidious Puppy 001
Subject description: A Debian Sid and Puppy breed, the successor to Puppy Squeeze
 

Iguleder wrote:
Insidious Puppy 001



What is it?

Insidious Puppy is a Puppy built from Debian Sid packages (in the same way Lucid Puppy is built from Ubuntu packages) that lays more emphasis on stability, long-term usability and out-of-the-box experience. Its key features are high Debian and Lucid Puppy compatibility, a good selection of applications (through Debian's repositories), an excellent multimedia stack and good hardware support.

It is the successor to Puppy Squeeze and and provides an alternative to Quirky, dpup and Lucid Puppy.

Under-the-hood, it’s Puppy in all its glory. It is more conservative and traditional than Lucid Puppy, yet not “retro”. It works pretty much like Puppy in the 4.x days - it doesn’t boot straight to the desktop (for better compatibility with exotic video hardware), has a full-blown browser and has its own package repository in PPM.

Its development is more “upstream” than Lucid Puppy's and follows the recent development in Woof closely. It consist of around 90% Debian package, in contrast with other Woof-built puppies. Just for comparison - Lucid Puppy 5.1 consists of around 65% Ubuntu packages. This means its development is more future-proof.

The development is open to suggestions and complaints. Don't be shy.

If you have any useful PET packages, let me know - I can upload them to the repo. Smile

Credit for the name goes to pemas and the credit for the logo goes to its original creator; I just modified it.

What's special about it?

Insidious Puppy’s packages provide a good compromise between cutting-edge technologies and rock-solid stability. They aren't the newest, but in general, they're quite recent: some packages are the latest, but most packages are lagging one or two versions behind and enjoy many fixes and improvements introduced by the Debian guys. Insidious Puppy provides a great balance between old and new; it consists of fairly recent, stable Debian packages and a slightly older kernel.

Insidious Puppy is not targeted at a specific target audience or hardware. Instead, it is a “generic” Puppy. It has all the applications you need for day-to-day work, including a web browser, an e-mail client, a word processor, a spreadsheet application, a media player and so on.

Insidious Puppy is powered by the long-term-support Linux kernel 2.6.32.26, for better stability. It is fine-tuned for performance and good hardware compatibility. This makes it an ideal "second chance Puppy" for those who don't like more cutting-edge puppies or newer kernels, as used in Lucid Puppy or Quirky.

Insidious Puppy features the Iceape (a rebranded Seamonkey) internet suite, which consists of a web browser, an e-mail client and an address book. It was used to be known as the de-facto browser for Puppy for its wide compatibility, stability and efficiency compared to a set of three independent applications with similar functionality.

Also, Insidious Puppy is armed with MPlayer and GNOME-MPlayer, Guvcview, Alsaplayer, Asunder, Sweep and other applications to provide a great multimedia experience. It even has Xorg_High (which is quite big) built-in, which means it doesn't waste space in the save file and enables 3D capabilities out-of-the-box.

Additionally, Insidious Puppy has GNU Paint, mtPaint, fotoxx and gtkam on its graphics front, to make the user's work with graphics more pleasant. These applications allow easy management of digital cameras, overview of photo albums and graphics editing.

Moreover, Insidious Puppy has heaps of other useful applications, such as Simple Scan, Transmission, xchat, gcalctool, gToDo, xpad, Leafpad, xbindkeys, gFTP and much more. Many traditional Puppy applications are replaced with (better, matter of opinion) alternatives.

Also, Insidious Puppy has a good icon set, a beautiful wallpaper (from KDE) and a good selection of elegant GTK themes (from Xfce). It contains a basic pack of fonts to make web browsing and office work more easy on the eyes, compatible with other Linux distributions and aesthetically pleasing. It supports right-to-left and exotic languages (because it has Debian's fonts) and has locales for end-user applications.

Insidious Puppy has even more cool stuff, like a working "printscreen" key, suspend-to-RAM with Fn+Zz, Parcellite, ppower, wcpufreq ... the list is too long to mention. Just grab your copy to see them Smile

What release cycle does it have?

The simple answer is: "release when ready". That's what the Debian guys and many puplet developers do. This works very well if you examine the quality of the products they produce.

I'm going to the army soon, so I won't have much time to work on it. However, it's very easy to develop Insidious (making it that way took a very long time, that's why it's been so long since Puppy Squeeze 009) so maybe I'll do some "snapshot" releases with improvements and fixes. I want it to be sort of a "LTS" Puppy.

I intend to write a full guide for building Insidious Puppy (including the kernel and setting up an unofficial PPM repository), for those who don't like the size, which comes from Xorg_High, Iceape and the modem drivers. This could be a good source of inspiration for puplet developers who want to give their puplets features that make the difference between a customized Puppy version and a full-featured Puppy release in its own right.

Oh, and one last thing - I had a plan to build "trinitypup" - an experiment to build a Puppy with Trinity (a KDE 3.x fork) in Woof. The reason I didn't do this with Puppy Squeeze was the ratio of PET packages used to build it. Now, I can finally do this experiment ... KDE 3.x lovers, stay tuned Cool

Should I use it? Is it compatible with my hardware?

This is a very subjective question.

If you don't like Lucid Puppy, Quirky and any other 5.x-generation puppies, this one might be interesting. Also, if you're the adventurous type, this one is crafted especially for you.

Insidious Puppy is compatible with pretty much any x86 processor (like any other Puppy) and the minimum supported is Pentium II. It should support pretty much the same hardware as 5.x-generation puppies and even more, because its kernel has a broader variety of drivers. It supports the rfkill switch, Hyperthreading, power saving for sound cards, GPIO, CPU frequency scaling and more things that are unsupported on most other puppies. It even has acpi_call (which is useful for machines with multiple GPUs), some modem drivers and ndiswrapper.

Generally, it's faster than most comparable puppies, due to the kernel and the i686-optimized stuff it has, but only as long as you have enough RAM. Due to its bigger size, Insidious Puppy might run slower on machines with very low amounts of RAM (128 MB or less), but if you install it to a hard drive partition in a full installation, it should feel snappier than other puppies on such machines.

Download

Insidious Puppy 001, released November 28, built with the November 28 Woof (the one used with Luci 240 and Quirky 1.4, with the zzz PET) -
ISO: inpu-001.iso
devx: inpu_devx_001.sfs
MD5 sums: md5sums.txt

Once you install it, go to PPM, click "Configure package manager" and update the package lists in order to be able to install packages. Nvidia drivers, Flash, Skype and Pidgin should be available in PPM once you do so.

All the packages in the repository are available here too.

Those who intend to compile extra drivers might be interested in kernel_sources-2.6.32.26-pentium2-bfs.sfs.

The kernel sources and the sources for the stuff in the repo are available here. The kernel sources also include the kernel configuration, patches and third-party extras. The patches were generated by me (with the exception of the BFS patch) and I worked really hard to make the knowledge needed to build Insidious free and open.


Links are dead in this thread now at: http://archive.org/details/PuppyLinux_Insidious_Puppy
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Jul 2013, 15:19    Post subject:  

He went on to other projects.
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug 2013, 20:37    Post subject: Reply  

nooby wrote:
He went on to other projects.


Useful info for those who still wish to download this
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug 2013, 21:30    Post subject:  

Ally has archived it here:

http://archive.org/details/PuppyLinux_Insidious_Puppy

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