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Compiz, Rox

#1721 Post by yerc1 »

jemimah wrote:It's a setting in the ROX options. Go to Compatibility and check "Pass backdrop mouse clicks to the window manager".
In icewm & openbox, checking that option restored the Applications menu when right-clicking on the desktop. Is it possible to achieve the same within flwm and compiz?

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Latest midori

#1722 Post by yerc1 »

edoc wrote:If you go to http://webcamplaza.net Parole generates an error about plugins.

Could that be related to the other updates to Midori?

I did not get these errors before.
Even without installing the updates, I am getting similar errors.

I have a frugal usb install of Fluppy 13 with the following sfs (Jemimah's latest) loaded:
- python
- compiz
- wine
- firefox

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Re: Compiz, Rox

#1723 Post by jemimah »

yerc1 wrote:
jemimah wrote:It's a setting in the ROX options. Go to Compatibility and check "Pass backdrop mouse clicks to the window manager".
In icewm & openbox, checking that option restored the Applications menu when right-clicking on the desktop. Is it possible to achieve the same within flwm and compiz?
You can't in Compiz.

There's a script /usr/local/bin/flwm-menu that I used in the past to build a an application menu for flwm, but it uses the jwmrc to get the menu entries and jwm is not there anymore. So it would be necessary to fix the script to use the IceWM menu file.

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Re: Compiz, Rox

#1724 Post by technosaurus »

jemimah wrote:
yerc1 wrote:
jemimah wrote:It's a setting in the ROX options. Go to Compatibility and check "Pass backdrop mouse clicks to the window manager".
In icewm & openbox, checking that option restored the Applications menu when right-clicking on the desktop. Is it possible to achieve the same within flwm and compiz?
You can't in Compiz.

There's a script /usr/local/bin/flwm-menu that I used in the past to build a an application menu for flwm, but it uses the jwmrc to get the menu entries and jwm is not there anymore. So it would be necessary to fix the script to use the IceWM menu file.
I have some generic (alpha quality) code for parsing the desktop files to generate a generic gtkdialog menu ... gtkdialog runs pretty slowly with that much info, but the script could be adapted to pretty much any menu system. I'll see if I can post it when I get home this evening if anyone is interested in trying to implement a more direct method of generating the menu.
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#1725 Post by newone »

jason.b.c wrote: is anyone here having trouble with the package list in puppy software (package) manager not loading (showing) anything?????
What about this problem, Jemimah? I am having the same problem.

dawnsboy

#1726 Post by dawnsboy »

quote from newone:
jason.b.c wrote:

is anyone here having trouble with the package list in puppy software (package) manager not loading (showing) anything?????


What about this problem, Jemimah? I am having the same problem.
I do know that the package repo only has a handful of packages at this time. Some of the categories are empty. I thought that the list was empty at first as well so I refreshed the package list and went through each category one at a time. Some categories were empty and others had one or more packages listed.


The repo is at http://puppeee.com/files/pet_repo/

I personally do not see this as a problem. Fluppy is still under development.

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#1727 Post by edoc »

Contents of Puppy Package Manager in 013:

Desktop - empty
System - eGalaxTouch-calibration-1.0, truecrypt-7.0a, Python2.6-pygtk
Setup - empty
Utility - empty
Filesystem - cadaver-0.23.3-i486, davfs2-1.4.6-i486, emelfm2-0.7.2-i486
Graphic - Image-ExifTool-8.43-i486
Document - vim72-i486
Business - empty
Personal - empty
Network - empty
Internet - FileZilla-3, google-talkplugin-1.8.0 (must delete!), netsurf-2.6-i486
Multimedia - audacity-src-1.3.12-beta-i486, jack-1.9.6-i486, xinepak-1.1.19
Fun - empty
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#1728 Post by edoc »

Speaking of this ...
Internet - google-talkplugin-1.8.0 (must delete!)
If I wanted to remove anything containing the text "google" in the filename - what is the recommended way to do that so that nothing else is harmed in the process?

Just delete everything I find with that string using "Pfind"?
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bootflash

#1729 Post by ecube »

The bootflash script seems to go astray i fluppy-013.

After the script is run, GParted reports: Partition unallocated and an error splash screen is shown

Running the lupu script in lupu-520 gives the correct output..

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Fluppy-013
==========
# /usr/sbin/bootflash
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00274251 s, 187 kB/s
Invalid ldlinux.bss. Missing tag word.
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00898455 s, 57.0 kB/s
Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel
Building a new DOS disklabel. Changes will remain in memory only,
until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous
content won't be recoverable.

Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)

Command (m for help): No partition is defined yet!

Command (m for help): The partition table has been altered!

Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
Syncing disks.
mkdosfs: can't open '/dev/sdc1': No such file or directory
/dev/sdc1: No such file or directory

Command (m for help): Partition number (1-4): Warning: partition 1 has empty type

Command (m for help): The partition table has been altered!

Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
Syncing disks.

lupu-520
========
# /usr/sbin/bootflash
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00274712 s, 186 kB/s
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00487287 s, 105 kB/s

Command (m for help): Selected partition 1
Hex code (type L to list codes): 
Command (m for help): The partition table has been altered!

Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
Syncing disks.
mkdosfs 3.0.7 (24 Dec 2009)
/usr/sbin/bootflash: line 410: 13252 Terminated              yaf-splash -close never -bg orange -text "Please wait, formatting ${USBDRV} drive..."
EXIT="OK"
/usr/sbin/bootflash: line 471: 14722 Terminated              yaf-splash -close never -bg orange -text "Please wait, copying files from .iso file..."
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#1730 Post by newone »

dawnsboy wrote:
I do know that the package repo only has a handful of packages at this time. Some of the categories are empty. I thought that the list was empty at first as well so I refreshed the package list and went through each category one at a time. Some categories were empty and others had one or more packages listed.


The repo is at http://puppeee.com/files/pet_repo/

I personally do not see this as a problem. Fluppy is still under development.
OK. Thank you. I have another problem. It's not vital, but it is annoying. Startmount doesn't work. Neither in Puppy 5.12 nor in Fluppy. When i run startmount it says probing hardware (or something like that) and it chrashes. Maybe I can make fluppy mount my drives on startup by editing mtab or fstab? I'm a newbie so I don't know exactly how to do that.

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Remaster Error

#1731 Post by tlchost »

I am unable to remaster Fluppy 013. The process, of creating a remastered CD or and ISO file does not create the /boot directory in either the CD or the puppyremaster directory.

I am using the remaster application in setup/software.

I can create a working USB bootable Fluppy using the universal installer.

Any suggestions?

Thom

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#1732 Post by edoc »

What color printers, compatible with Fluppy, can you recommend, please?

Under $100.

Currently available in USA.

Reasonably priced ink cartridges.

NOTE: I will consider paying more for a refurbished color laser printer if really Linux-friendly and mechanically-reliable and if the color toner lasts a long time.
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#1733 Post by edoc »

I am trying to talk a non-Linux guy into switching as he's troubled by the huge cost to upgrade his apps and hardware but is retired and worried about learning something new.

He complained that GIMP is too different from Photoshop -- so I did a quick search and discovered GIMPshop:

http://www.gimpshop.com/

This is a terrific hack to help port Photoshop users to Linux and to GIMP.

Any chance of adding this to the GIMP offering for Fluppy/Puppeee PetStore?

Also, any chance of adding LibreOffice to the OpenOffice section?

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
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#1734 Post by edoc »

Just loaded Fluppy 013 to an HP Omnibook XE4400S with a 2Ghz CPU and 1GB RAM and it is running slowly.

It is especially noticeable in Midori and Seamonkey.

Please see attached pdiag file.

Sure appreciate any helpful observations as our son is using this notebook for school and the performance is frustrating him.

Thanks!
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#1735 Post by MU »

How To install the proprietary ATI Fglrx graficsdrivers (Fluppy 013)

I have not read the whole thread, so sorry, if this info was posted before.

To get the ATI graficsdrivers pet from the first message working, I had to remove the free radeon kernel module by typing:

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mv /lib/modules/2.6.35.7/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko /root/
(so I moved it to /root/ as backup)

Without this step, the ATI fglrx driver could not be loaded.
This resulted in a system freeze after a reboot.
To fix this, I pressed CTRL-C just before X started, to interrupt the startup script.

I THINK it was in that folder, if it is a different one, check it by typing:

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cd /lib
find . -name radeon.ko

Now, if you have not done already, download:
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/ ... x86_64.run
Save it somewhere (it is huge, 125 MB!).
Also be aware, that a lot of free diskspace is required, I used a 256 MB pupsave file, and had saved the installer on a second drive.

Install it by typing:

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cd WHERE_YOU_DOWNLOADED
bash ati-driver-installer-10-12-x86.x86_64.run
Then install the pet from the first message (direct link: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=37505 )

Then I exited X and typed:

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depmod -a
aticonfig --initial
This creates a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf from scratch.

Then you should look, if there is another xorg.conf, like xorg.conf.ATI_ATOMBIOSV223W

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ls /etc/X11
The name is different on your system, depending on the name of your monitor (mine is an Acer V223W).

This one is used/created by Puppys xorgwizard.
You now need to copy the first xorg.conf over it, or Puppy will mess up the xorg.conf created by aticonfig at next reboot:

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cp -ax /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ATI_ATOMBIOSV223W
Then type "reboot" to unload all conflicting drivers and start up with the ATI fglrx driver.

Then you can use "start - system - control panel - ATI Catalyst control center" to set more options like a second monitor.

I have set up the second monitor as own desktop (no xinerama).
To start up an own environment on it, I added such a script to the folder /root/Startup/:

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#!/bin/bash

export DISPLAY=:0.1

openbox &
rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin &
Like this I can switch my mplayer to fullscreen on the TV (I use mplayer-mt for HDTV videos using both CPU-cores, see: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47198 )

Sidenote:
Fluppy013 works great on my Desktop system (Athlon 2.2 Ghz, 2 cores, 1 GB Ram, Ati HD4850, Monitor1: Acer 22'' 1680x1050, Monitor2: Samsung 52'' TV, 1980x1080).
It even recognizes my external 3 Terabyte USB-Harddisk, that did not work in Newyearspup because of the older Puppy 4.1 Kernel.

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#1736 Post by willem1940NLD »

Twice downloaded and made CD fluppy13 ..... it cannot find my internet hardware (LAN) ..... pemasu told me to try console modprobe 3c59x .... all times answering:

FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.35.7/modules.dep: No such file or directory.

Several other puppies including 520 at present, did/do fine.

Will search for fluppy12 download, for which pemasu told me it has the module.

Edit: only found 006 as closest version number; does not boot my desktop.
http://www.livedistro.org/gnulinux/fluppy-006

Not much luck; I like the layout and the setup, though.

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#1737 Post by MU »

willem, to generate a modules.dep, try typing:

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depmod -a
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#1738 Post by willem1940NLD »

MU wrote:willem, to generate a modules.dep, try typing:

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depmod -a
Mark
Sorry, one keyboard key died overnight so using | instead.

Very kind of you to try he|ping, but in fact I am not a technician and on|y on very rare occasions, on advice of others, even open up conso|e or command|ine .... just because of not knowing what I can destroy and then not being ab|e to repair.

Various other puppies work we|| for me so | think F|uppy ought to do as we||, without needing charms/Zaubersprüche.

For the time being I disposed of the f|uppy CDs and de|eted fi|es and ISOs. On|y think it can be usefu| to draw designer's attention, as |ayout and setup |ook so attractive.

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#1740 Post by pemasu »

depmod -m should generate modules.dep file.

#depmod --help
-m, --map Create the legacy map files

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