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#21 Post by DJ Whelan »

Ok thanks for the info :)

This would work better than the EBOX 4300 if I up the RAM a bit

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... AQ:GB:1123
What you reckon sc0ttman?

Cheers
David :wink:

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#22 Post by sc0ttman »

DJ Whelan wrote:Ok thanks for the info :)

This would work better than the EBOX 4300 if I up the RAM a bit

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... AQ:GB:1123
What you reckon sc0ttman?

Cheers
David :wink:
Hmm... Looks powerful enough, whether or not the hardware support is good is beyond me. Should be *mostly* OK, I guess, nothing too exotic in there..

Again, for the on board graphics chip, OpenGL support may be touch n go... But for that price, is worth a go!


As I'm not a hardware expert, and I haven't tested Puppy 4.2 (or any other Pup) on that system, I would send him a message and tell him you're desperately hoping it supports Puppy Arcade.. He may check it out... Get him to download it and boot it if possible! (Although any Puppy 4.2 would be a fine test)...
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#23 Post by DJ Whelan »

Cheers for your help

I`m scouring ebay trying to get a low cost system with just enough
Power - I notice this has a Via C3 Nehemiah CPU which I dont think is that great..

Keep looking I guess lol 8)

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#24 Post by DJ Whelan »

This will do the job lovely I reckon - as my acer aspire one netbook is a Atom N270 single core and plays psone and n64 ok need to double check though lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT

DJ Whelan 8)

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#25 Post by DJ Whelan »

Can`t decide lol

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#26 Post by sc0ttman »

DJ Whelan wrote:Can`t decide lol

DJ Whelan
I think the mini ITX box will be fine, with a little extra RAM... I'd go with that as a base. But the other is, of course, more powerful - but if you're only gonna be running MAME, etc, then the mini ITX box would be enough..

Hmm.. That's not very conclusive, is it? :roll:
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#27 Post by DJ Whelan »

What I`m goner do is wait till the Arcade stick comes through then decide,
Hope its soon though can`t wait :lol:

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#28 Post by mikeybaby72 »

NICE Puplet! I looked into this 2 years ago but never really tested it fully. I have 2 issues =

1. Pwireless doesn't detect my WiFi card (?)

2. USB Mouse doesn't scroll?


(I'm running it on a stock Acer Aspire 5315 Laptop)

Apart from that TOP Puplet!!!! :wink:

Any Ideas/help would be greatly appriciated, thanks for all your hard work.

Puppy forever!!!!! :lol: :D

;-)

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#29 Post by DJ Whelan »

Well me joystick turned up so its now time to design the Cabinet - nice And tiny arcade :lol:

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#30 Post by cthisbear »

1. Pwireless doesn't detect my WiFi card (?)

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65742

A convoluted way...but it often works.

Boot Puppy >>> puppy pfix=ram

so you don't screw up while testing.

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Mice are cheap. Buy a generic one.

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#31 Post by TrailerTrash »

I see Vesa mentioned in the write up for Puppy Arcade. Does this mean it won't work with Xorg? My computer doesn't like Vesa.

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#32 Post by TrailerTrash »

I see Vesa mentioned in the write up for Puppy Arcade. Does this mean it won't work with Xorg? My computer doesn't like Vesa.

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#33 Post by sc0ttman »

TrailerTrash wrote:I see Vesa mentioned in the write up for Puppy Arcade. Does this mean it won't work with Xorg? My computer doesn't like Vesa.
It first boots into Xvesa, but Xorg works fine. After 1st boot the 'firstrun' dialog pops up, and you can choose Xorg or Xvesa, and your resolution.

But you could update firstrun (from shinobar) to the latest version, as it would make Puppy Arcade boot straight into Xorg instead.
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Designing a retro 'console'

#34 Post by gedditoffme »

G'day all,

I am working on converting an old Acer Extensa 2000 laptop into a retro 'console', similar to http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a ... do-NES-PC/

The laptop has Celeron 2.8GHz CPU, but not much RAM (I think 702MB -basing it off an old DxDiag from shortly before it failed). I remember it ran (3-4 yrs ago) slowly sometimes, and hot, but that was Windows XP, so am hoping the more lightweight Puppy Arcade will run better. I'd like to be able to play up to PS1 or N64 games.

My laptop has a faulty hard drive (the reason I stopped using it). I have now ordered a cheap replacement, but if I understand LiveCD - I can start testing it now if I burn Puppy Arcade to a CD and boot it?

I don't have much experience with linux (though did use a Xandros EEE for 6 months while travelling), so this post is just to reassure myself this will work. And also to ask for help when I stuff up in a few weeks once I have the parts I need :P

So does it include working emulators for all the common systems, or will I need to track them down separately?
Does it boot quickly (I want the proper console experience - playing within a few seconds of turning the switch on)?
Would it run faster than Windows XP?
Does it support a full range of USB controllers (bought some dirt cheap knockoffs from eBay)? Are they easy to set up?
How does it compare with similar front ends for Windows (eg: GameEx looks pretty good too - http://www.gameex.net/)?

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#36 Post by sc0ttman »

gedditoffme, here are a few answers to your queries:

Yes, Puppy Arcade can run fine without a hard drive.. Boot the Live CD, and when the desktop has loaded up and you're ready, you can remove the Puppy Arcade CD and put in a CD/DVD with all your roms on it.

Puppy Arcade includes, as standard, emulators for the following systems: Amiga (500, 1000, 2000), Apple (68k, 128k, 512k, SE, MacOS, Plus), Atari (ST, 800, 800XL, 130XE, 5200), Amstrad (CPC, Plus, VEB), Arcades, Colecovision, Commodore (64, 128, VIC20, PET), Doom, GameBoys (GB, GBC, GBA), GameGear, Genesis/MegaDrive, MasterSystem, MS DOS, MSX, N64, NDS, NeoGeo, NeoGeo CD, NES/Famicom, PC Engine/TurboGrafix, PSX, ScummVM, SNES and ZX Spectrum (16k, 48k, 128k, +2, +2A, +3) and more.

More emulators can be installed though: see the first few posts of this thread for extra downloads.

Boot times depend on your hardware and how you installed Puppy. It will not boot in seconds, as you want, maybe a minute or so (or less).

Linux in general supports lots of gamepads, I always use cheap Logitech Dual Analog (PS2 style) pads.. They work great - just plug them in before your desktop loads up to load them. (Or restart X after plugging in the joypad).

"Rom-Loader" (the 'GameEx of Puppy Arcade) is really simple, not as fully featured as GameEx... Rom-Loader does not have screenshot previews, most plyaed lists on so on..

And Yes, Puppy Arcade should work much faster than Windows XP.
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Thanks

#37 Post by gedditoffme »

Thanks for the replies. I installed it to a CD and played a bit last night.

It worked well, possibly the only complaint was the boot time. It seemed most of the time was spent copying itself to RAM. Will this improve if I install Puppy Arcade to the Hard Drive?

But aside from that it seemed fine for my purposes.

Thanks for releasing such a great product.

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#38 Post by sc0ttman »

gedditoffme wrote:It worked well, possibly the only complaint was the boot time. It seemed most of the time was spent copying itself to RAM. Will this improve if I install Puppy Arcade to the Hard Drive?
Yes, it will be a bit quicker... But there are two (or more) HD install options: firstly the 'full install', or 'frugal install'.. A 'full install' should boot faster - stuff is not copied to RAM..


But if using a frugal install the real speed up would be to remove all the kernel drivers that you are not using.. Note: The kernel drivers are stored in /lib/modules/... But do not do this manually.

IF you can be bothered to do this, here is some information:

There is a tool called "zdrvcutr", which can remove the extra drivers for you. To use 'zdrv_cutr' you must be using a Puppy 'frugal' install with a zdrv file...

The zdrv SFS file is a separate SFS file that contains ONLY the kernel modules. If a puppy uses a zdrv, the kernel drivers are not in the main SFS file, only in the zdrv SFS file.

Anyway... Creating a frugal install to HD is easy, using the 'Frugal Installer' tool, in Menu->Setup.

However, Puppy Arcade does not use a zdrv SFS file by default - everything is in pup_420.sfs
But Puppy Arcade can be easily made to use a zdrv file, by installing and using the latest 'Woofy remaster tool', which is here
gedditoffme wrote:Thanks for releasing such a great product.
You're welcome, glad you enjoy it.
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#39 Post by cthisbear »

gedditoffme :

I replied to your Whirly Pool post.

Gave you an easy USB fix.
Menu, instructions the lot.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-re ... ?t=1669518

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sc0ttman....pretty good effort mate.

The only confusion was Dillo.
Couldn't find the menu entry under Internet,

but you made another in the menu...same name different directory??

Messing with my mind man.
Luckily I switched on my 3rd neurone, and I saw your cunning strategy.

Chris.

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#40 Post by morgonzola »

hey i have a question regarding using an xbox360 controller with this

do you have the xboxdrv needed to be able to use xbox 360 pads?
(is that even the right thing?)

i have one that is plug in and one that is wireless ( it needs some receiver thing) and i think i might have a computer for emulation purposes coming into my hands soon so i just want to ask if this is a part of it or not

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