Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

[ttuuxxx]

evince stops working after I install the devx with this error
sh-3.00# evince
evince: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-t2-linux-gnu/3.4.4/libgcc_s.so.1: version `GCC_4.2.0' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6)

then when I install the evince pet I posted above it works.
so it looks like I have more work to do on the devx

Also I added clarf's devx iso on the server with rest of the downloads, download for the sfs page one

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[ttuuxxx]

I checked barrys website for the sources of gcc he used in Wary so it would match the glibC I used from Wary and well he has them hosted and also he hosted the patches also So next I patched/compiled the sources and it works, No need to update evince to the pet above. But I still haven't updated the iso/devx so next I'll do that and tell ya how it went and maybe a new release
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[ttuuxxx]

Ok Just tested the iso and devX with the newly compiled gcc and it works, No issues at all with evince starting with or without the devx and I compiled the latest geany just fine
looking good guys
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[James C]

We like good news.

[ttuuxxx]

Here's the latest Geany text editor, I won't be updating the one in 2.14X just for the simple reason, that the one in 2.14x runs perfect, and updating would only introduce some unneeded extra bloat, each newer release of geany always increases in size and not usually any new features added.
So get it while you can After a few more releases and I am sure everything is stable, I'll be looking at the kernel swap with the newer 3,4 series sfs version.
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[ttuuxxx]

We like good news.

Hey James when I test a newer devx and iso, what I usually do is toss everything into a folder, to make a new iso and build, so the iso has the devx.pet plus the regular files like sfs etc all together. this iso was 208mb so all I do is burn the iso and drag the devx-pet out and install it. kind of cool that way, the devx pet doesn't take any more memory because it isn't loaded at boot, The only downfall shipping it this way is that it takes long to download, like 75%, so it wouldn't be good for say dial-up users.

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[Rickkk]

@Aitch,

Thanks for the input. I had already come across the reference you've quoted and tried out some of the suggestions, unfortunately to no avail. The card in the 600E is actually a CS4236, not a CS4232, however. Every model of 600 (Thinkpads 600, 600D, 600E, 600X) seemed to be shipped with different soundcards, somewhat complicating troubleshooting. Naturally, they were also set up so as to optimize the Windows 98 / NT experience back then.

I appreciate the help, nevertheless. Please let me know should you come up with anything else.

Cheers,

Rick

ttuuxxx

Back when I was playing with my earlier 560/570 IBMs, I seem to remember tempestuous posting something about this, but don't remember details....there were ACPI/power problems with some of these lappys
....perhaps a pm would sort it out?

from a debian install ref

Sound

The following sound modules were installed with associated parameters (if any):

* OSS
* ad1848
* uart401
* cs4232 0x530 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0

Loading Sound Modules

I've found that I've needed to load the ThinkPad sound modules later in the boot process, otherwise sound works poorly (crackles, skipping and generally just wrong . Therefore, I've commented out the ad1848, uart401 and cs4232 sound modules from /etc/modules and instead created a start up script to be run later at boot time. You can have these modules load after networking and other essential services that may potentially interfere (I never bothered to figure out exactly what the problem is) by naming it something like S79sound in your /etc/rc<2-5>.d directories (linking to ../init.d/sound preferably):

#!/bin/sh
#
# sound - start sound subsystem modules
#
# 2002-12-30,jtk

case $1 in

start)
echo "Starting sound subsystem..."
insmod isa-pnp
insmod ad1848
insmod uart401
insmod cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0
;;

stop)
echo "Stopping sound subsystem..."
rmmod cs4232
rmmod uart401
rmmod ad1848
rmmod isa-pnp
;;
*)
echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop}"
exit 1
;;

esac
exit 0

I have had to load the isa-pnp, ad1848, uart410 and cs4232 modules near the end of my system's boot process in startup files to avoid problems with the sound system. I stopped testing at some point, but I had to assume that the sound modules conflict with some other service(s) that load before it so the order in which they load is important. Since I'm using the older OSS modules now, I'm not going to worry about this much as I do plan on moving to the ALSA sound system at some point in the future.

but this is pre-alsa....[OSS] so may not be applicable

Aitch

[wuwei]

Hi ttuuxxx

appreciate your great work on this Classic Pup. Over time it really became my favorite Puppy on an old single core PC with 2 IDE HDD.

Then I thought I'd transfer the beloved Puppy to a somewhat more modern machine, which has one IDE (sdb) and one SATA HDD (sda).

Oh my...BIG mistake.
I tried two approaches, one was from a CD and the other as a manual frugal install.
First 214x recognised the 2 HDD as hda and sda and I had to set the grub stanza accordingly.
Unfortunately this wasn't the end of the problems:
Clocksettings didn't save for a reboot,
documents in abiword and Libre Office couldn't be saved inside or outside of the pupsave file,
Thunderbird on /mnt/home wouldn't start, although firefox from /mnt/home did.
pfix=ram wouldn't work in the frugal install,
etc etc

To make a long story short: This is not a complaint or a critique, just a bit of information that 214xTOP has some serious compatibility problems with this HDD arrangement.
Other Puppies run fine without any hardware problem.

So do keep up your good work and just make a note of this incompatibility.

Thanks.

[tempestuous]

The card in the 600E is actually a CS4236, not a CS4232

Incorrect I'm afraid. There's a lot of confusion over the Cirrus Logic audio chips. The audio chipset in the 600E is CS4239 which is on the ISA bus, and is supported by the snd-cs4236 (ALSA) sound driver. The snd-cs4236 driver supports a range of different Cirrus Logic audio chips.

The fix for your ThinkPad 600X audio is almost certainly here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 5272#85272
It involves manually loading the correct sound driver (snd-cs4236) from /etc/rc.d/rc.local at each boot up.

[ttuuxxx]

Clocksettings didn't save for a reboot,
documents in abiword and Libre Office couldn't be saved inside or outside of the pupsave file,
Thunderbird on /mnt/home wouldn't start, although firefox from /mnt/home did.
pfix=ram wouldn't work in the frugal install,
etc etc

Thanks.

VERY interesting indeed, There has been issues that I've noticed like if a usb stick is inserted and you power off and power on, that all the harddrives are READ ONLY but if you unplug the usb stick then reboot live again then all is well again.
I have a feeling that I should release the next version and then get a few of us working on the latest version trying to fix a few of these known issues.
1- wireless broken when we updated to the auto start lan
2- sometimes you can't install a pet from the harddrive if its a sata but if its a ide its ok.
3- usb kills read/writre on hard drives if stick is in at boot
4- grub issues (would like to update to the newer one macpup uses)
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[yorkiesnorkie]

Hi,

I got the latest 214x and devx pet from the first post, I'm planning to make a new live CD and compile the latest ClamAV for 214x. I just completed a PET for 431 last weekend http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57630

Yorkie

[ttuuxxx]

Hi,

I got the latest 214x and devx pet from the first post, I'm planning to make a new live CD and compile the latest ClamAV for 214x. I just completed a PET for 431 last weekend http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57630

Yorkie

Hi yorkie but I might wait a couple of hours if I was you, I'm currently finishing up the next version and this one will have a new gcc which some apps depend on.
ttuuxxx

Ps thanks for the ClamAV in advance

[ttuuxxx]

New Release Page One,
Well I didn't want to go nuts on it, with a new Gcc, just in case, My wife has been working these 24hr shifts and I've been the stay at home dad, My 2 month old daughter was great with sleeping when we first had her and now she's up like every 1hr, grrr I wonder if she is teething, I feel like a zombie, so very complex task are next to impossible when it comes to 2.14X. Anyways enjoy it and try lending a hand with the min bugs that it has left.
After the bugs then the kernel and after that maybe a new backend since Gtk2 is almost finished and they moving to Gtk3, it might be best to have the Final stable Gtk2.
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[yorkiesnorkie]

Hi,

I got the latest 214x and devx pet from the first post, I'm planning to make a new live CD and compile the latest ClamAV for 214x. I just completed a PET for 431 last weekend http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57630

Yorkie

Hi yorkie but I might wait a couple of hours if I was you, I'm currently finishing up the next version and this one will have a new gcc which some apps depend on.
ttuuxxx

Ps thanks for the ClamAV in advance

Ok, Hey no problem I'm glad to do it. I can wait a bit for the new GCC. I think the last time I tried compiling ClamAV I made some errors in the process. I seem to have got the compiling part sorted out this time around, . It's certainly not as mysterious! The version for 431 went quite smoothly.

I hear you with regard to the infant. We get our 9 month old grandson periodically, and he doesn't like sleeping either. Bad for Grampy! I've felt like propping my eyelids open with toothpicks, fortunately there is Tetley... Otherwise I'd be a goner.

Yorkie

[yorkiesnorkie]

I wonder if she is teething

Could be, red cheeks are sometimes a giveaway, drooling?

[ttuuxxx]

Its always hard to tell with the first tooth, I might get some of the gums stuff that makes them feel better and see if that works, she is a bit red in the cheeks, but she always rubs her face against my 2 day old scruff.
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[ttuuxxx]

Here's the latest QUISP

(quick server pages) is a simple, complete solution for developing database-driven dynamic web sites. It includes its own embedded SQL database which stores data in ascii text files, and optionally can include an embedded data charting package (ploticus).

http://quisp.sourceforge.net/qman/html/quisp_home.html
I also included the handbook in the menu under Internet
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[ttuuxxx]

here's the latest Gplanarity game, It contains the fullscreen blackout fix.
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[James C]

Between this release and the new Luci 257 coming on the same day it's been busy but I just completed a fresh full install of Top 7 on the old P3 test box.More detailed testing a bit later but everything worked on initial boot except internet connection wasn't automatically detected. Not a big deal,the connection wizard took care of it quickly.
Well, turns out I'm losing the internet connection at every reboot...... connection is not persistent. And I'm using old fashioned wired DSL......

[ttuuxxx]

Between this release and the new Luci 257 coming on the same day it's been busy but I just completed a fresh full install of Top 7 on the old P3 test box.More detailed testing a bit later but everything worked on initial boot except internet connection wasn't automatically detected. Not a big deal,the connection wizard took care of it quickly.
Well, turns out I'm losing the internet connection at every reboot...... connection is not persistent. And I'm using old fashioned wired DSL......

Hmm I didn't touch any of the internet parts this time round, did it work fine in top6.2?
Thanks James
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