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James C
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#4201 Post by James C »

ttuuxxx wrote:haaaaaaaa I did it, basically I loaded an older version of 2.14-top4, with an older version of firerox beta did the changes and saved the places.sqlite which was 188kb not 10MB.
It works fine and all is good once again
ttuuxxx

Oh ya I also reported the bug to mozilla :)
I knew you would figure it out..... :)

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Couple of questions from a 2.14X noob ...

#4202 Post by Rickkk »

Hey all,

Going to try your patience a bit here ... I've been using Puppy since late 2009, searching for a version and setup that would work with a few old (1999-2002) IBM ThinkPad laptops I've got. Gone through the latest Lucids, Waries, Quirkies, 4.3.1 reg. and retro, same for 4.1.2 ...

To make this already long story as short as possible - I came across Classic Pup 2.14X the other day and gave it a shot. Lo and behold - it is the distro that comes as close as possible so far to being compatible with my ThinkPad 600X. Recognizes CD drive, suspends and resumes (mostly) without complaining (or my having to eject the wireless PCMCIA card), etc. ... ... Joy.

So here are my questions. Any assistance would be welcome:

1) When trying to install various .pet packages so far (other than the ones listed in the Puppy Package Manager), I have met with little success. They don't seem to install and the dialog boxes basically stop appearing after the one that asks me to confirm that I want to install. Anything I should know about what to try to install or not and how to go about it ?

2) One important thing I've been unable to do so far is set up my printer. In all other versions of Puppy, I have needed the 3.10.x hpijs driver package (version depends on the version of CUPS), usually libnetsnmp15 and sometimes the Foomatic filters. My printer driver (HP OfficeJet Pro K5400DN) doesn't appear in the Gutenberg list currently supplied with 2.14X. Any suggestions ?

That's it for now. Hope you don't mind the questions (there will probably be more ... . If I can get these things figured out, I may permanently switch over to 2.14X. My next best option is the 4.3.1 retro version I'm currently using as an alternative.

Thanks for listening ! And very impressive work, btw. I am astonised at the functionality of the Puppy systems in general, and this one particularly.

Cheers,

Rick

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#4203 Post by ttuuxxx »

newer release and Devx page one. A lot of work went into getting the devx/iso/Firefox working well, so please test :)
Bed time have to get up for work in 4 hrs :)
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#4204 Post by ttuuxxx »

<<<<<<<<<<<< UPDATE PLEASE INSTALL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I've noticed firefox was running a bit unstable and sluggish, For some reason it couldn't find the libs in /usr/X11R7/lib so here's a bit over 100 system links, once installed, all runs well. :) I'll added this to the first post also and probably make a new release with it on it.

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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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A few questions

#4205 Post by Minnesota »

Hi: First how is the little one? Trust well.

Not sure when things may have changed, as I was on vacation for a while. Two observations. One - Right click of desktop no longer shows menu system. Two- I believe you are loading zd1211 module instead of zd1211W as previous.

Keep well.

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#4206 Post by James C »

Latest release live pfix=ram on my main Linux box.Sound and internet working on initial boot. Quickly installed the Nvidia driver to get my desired 1440x900 resolution.Also installed the update pet.

Looking real good so far.More testing later.

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#4207 Post by JonT »

214X-top6.2 has the wireless connect problem I posted with 6.1. Much has to do with several label definitions in /usr/sbin/wag-profiles.sh; some need to be surrounded with escaped quotes .
As an example, change line 634 from

Code: Select all

<label>$L_BUTTON_Scan</label>

to

Code: Select all

<label>\"$L_BUTTON_Scan\"</label>

This helps but there are others I couldn't figure out how to fix. I'm a novice bash-er and just looked at lines that worked to get this far - would prefer not to admit how long it took for this.


There is a minor typo in line 695, same file.

EDIT: OK, so maybe the escaped quotes aren't needed. Looks like wag-profiles.sh doesn't know about the variables in (for me) /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/net-setup.mo. Probably a one-liner fix, if only I knew how.
Even later: putting the line

Code: Select all

 . /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/net-setup.mo 
in either wag-profiles,sh or net-setup.sh in the same directory fixes it, even if probably not the right way. Firefox run fast! , flash and sound all good.

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#4208 Post by James C »

Live pfix=ram on my old P4 test box. Sound, internet and display all working and correct on boot.
Everything I've tried so far seems to be working, so far so good.
2.8 P4 w/512 Mb ram and 1 Gb swap ...... onboard Intel graphics, sound and internet.

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#4209 Post by ttuuxxx »

transmission is missing a system so here's the link.
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http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#4210 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi guys I had a user PM with this question, any help would be great. Thanks
ttuuxxx
5) Crystal Semiconductor CS4236 sound card on Thinkpad 600E

Puppy 214X is the first distro I've found to work with this card. Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to have it survive a suspend-resume cycle (no problem with the CS46XX on the 600X ...). No amount of restarting ALSA, re-running the ALSA sound wizard, of manual modprobe command seems to revive it. The hardware itself seems to turn itself off and not come back on after resuming from suspend mode (" ... fatal error - no ISA cards found" .... "card does not exist" .... ). There is a TON of literature on this on various Linux and Thinkpad sites, but I haven't found the magic formula yet. I would like to try something similar to the option in Ubuntu where you tell the power management subsystem to unload the module before suspend and reload it after. Does this functionality exist in Puppy 214X ? Any other suggestions ?
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#4211 Post by Aitch »

ttuuxxx

Back when I was playing with my earlier 560/570 IBMs, I seem to remember tempestuous posting something about this, but don't remember details....there were ACPI/power problems with some of these lappys
....perhaps a pm would sort it out?

from a debian install ref
Sound

The following sound modules were installed with associated parameters (if any):

* OSS
* ad1848
* uart401
* cs4232 0x530 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0

Loading Sound Modules

I've found that I've needed to load the ThinkPad sound modules later in the boot process, otherwise sound works poorly (crackles, skipping and generally just wrong :-). Therefore, I've commented out the ad1848, uart401 and cs4232 sound modules from /etc/modules and instead created a start up script to be run later at boot time. You can have these modules load after networking and other essential services that may potentially interfere (I never bothered to figure out exactly what the problem is) by naming it something like S79sound in your /etc/rc<2-5>.d directories (linking to ../init.d/sound preferably):

#!/bin/sh
#
# sound - start sound subsystem modules
#
# 2002-12-30,jtk

case $1 in

start)
echo "Starting sound subsystem..."
insmod isa-pnp
insmod ad1848
insmod uart401
insmod cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0
;;

stop)
echo "Stopping sound subsystem..."
rmmod cs4232
rmmod uart401
rmmod ad1848
rmmod isa-pnp
;;
*)
echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop}"
exit 1
;;

esac
exit 0

I have had to load the isa-pnp, ad1848, uart410 and cs4232 modules near the end of my system's boot process in startup files to avoid problems with the sound system. I stopped testing at some point, but I had to assume that the sound modules conflict with some other service(s) that load before it so the order in which they load is important. Since I'm using the older OSS modules now, I'm not going to worry about this much as I do plan on moving to the ALSA sound system at some point in the future.
but this is pre-alsa....[OSS] so may not be applicable

Aitch :)

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#4212 Post by ttuuxxx »

Thanks for the help Aitch :)
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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#4213 Post by ttuuxxx »

Ok somebody in the 5.2 was complaining about not having cryptsetup/LUX basically it encrypts your file system. It was a Terminal app, but then I found a terminal setup for it called cryptmount so I made a .desktop and added it to the system section in the menu.
This package contains the following lib/apps I compiled for 2.14
cryptmount-4.1-i386
cryptsetup-1.1.3-i386
libgcrypt-1.4.6-i386
libgpg-error-1.10-i386
lvm2-2.02.54-i386
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#4214 Post by clarf »

Hi ttuuxxx, thanks for the updates.

I uploaded a squashfs file made from your devx pet, for those people with small frugal installations...

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20142351 ... -2_214.sfs

I haven´t tested the updated devx, but it should work fine as all your stuff ttuuxxx.

The automatic wired internet connection works for my old laptop, didn´t try the wireless network yet but I´ll test it soon.

Greetings,
clarf

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#4215 Post by ttuuxxx »

clarf wrote:Hi ttuuxxx, thanks for the updates.

I uploaded a squashfs file made from your devx pet, for those people with small frugal installations...

http://www.gamefront.com/files/20142351 ... -2_214.sfs

I haven´t tested the updated devx, but it should work fine as all your stuff ttuuxxx.

The automatic wired internet connection works for my old laptop, didn´t try the wireless network yet but I´ll test it soon.

Greetings,
clarf
Thanks buddy, oh yeah wireless was reported broken, I don't use wireless so it would be next to impossible for me to check it. If you have time please have a good look at it.
Thanks
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#4216 Post by ttuuxxx »

evince is broken do to a different glibc, so please test this one I just compiled, I have a lot of other apps installed, So basically just need a check to see if all the deps are included.
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#4217 Post by MinHundHettePerro »

Hello, ttuuxxx :)!

Quick evince feedback ...

Tried in a pristine 214X-top6.2 + 214X-top6.2-Update-01.pet; a 1 p. and a 500+ pp. pdf-document opened in a document-viewer, and they were both legible (while evince seemed to have a symlink to this document-viewer).

After installation of the evince-pet; evince is associated with pdf-documents, 1 p. and 500+ pp. docs open nicely and are legible, seem printable (though I didn't try with the 500+ pp. pdf :wink:).

Thanks :)/
MHHP
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
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#4218 Post by ttuuxxx »

MinHundHettePerro wrote:Hello, ttuuxxx :)!

Quick evince feedback ...

Tried in a pristine 214X-top6.2 + 214X-top6.2-Update-01.pet; a 1 p. and a 500+ pp. pdf-document opened in a document-viewer, and they were both legible (while evince seemed to have a symlink to this document-viewer).

After installation of the evince-pet; evince is associated with pdf-documents, 1 p. and 500+ pp. docs open nicely and are legible, seem printable (though I didn't try with the 500+ pp. pdf :wink:).

Thanks :)/
MHHP
Thanks MinHundHettePerro for the update :)

tttuuxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)

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#4219 Post by clarf »

JonT wrote:214X-top6.2 has the wireless connect problem I posted with 6.1. Much has to do with several label definitions in /usr/sbin/wag-profiles.sh; some need to be surrounded with escaped quotes .
As an example, change line 634 from

Code: Select all

<label>$L_BUTTON_Scan</label>

to

Code: Select all

<label>"$L_BUTTON_Scan"</label>

This helps but there are others I couldn't figure out how to fix. I'm a novice bash-er and just looked at lines that worked to get this far - would prefer not to admit how long it took for this.


There is a minor typo in line 695, same file.

EDIT: OK, so maybe the escaped quotes aren't needed. Looks like wag-profiles.sh doesn't know about the variables in (for me) /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/net-setup.mo. Probably a one-liner fix, if only I knew how.
Even later: putting the line

Code: Select all

 . /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/net-setup.mo 
in either wag-profiles,sh or net-setup.sh in the same directory fixes it, even if probably not the right way. Firefox run fast! , flash and sound all good.
Hi ttuuxxx,

JonT is totally right Network Wizard does not work for wireless, the wag-profiles.sh script show many gtkdialog errors, because the values for labels are not loaded until you load the information from the net-setup.mo file

Code: Select all

. /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/net-setup.mo
There are no more translations for other languages to support, so this is the file to load fro wireless.

Pwireless work fine though without any change.

Greetings,
clarf

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#4220 Post by JonT »

Ditto what MinHundHettePerro said about evince. Frugal intall from iso file

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