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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 14:12    Post subject: Recommendation to author  

Seems that there is a lot of discussion over the confused release of 002.

Has anyone PM'd the builder of 002 and asked him to start a new thread where he announces this upgrade.

He can title the new thread "Insidious2" or "Insidious-002" or " Insidious Too" or whatever he chooses as an appropriate new name for this thread and his ISO.

Sometimes, I have found, that base forum knowledge is not consistent among forum users (I am an example of this). He may not know how to start a new thread, give it a Subject and post in a new thread.

Hope this helps.
P.S. My Question: Can I use the "APT" tool in this or any PUPs to add packages from Debian? Thx

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 15:21    Post subject:  

I made Insidious-002 using Iguleder`s specs which he had announced and are still found from the net. I only included different kernel and some other packages, but I didnt remove anything from Iguleder`s specs.

http://brainwavedesigncentral.net/dima/inpu-002/

Download link for the Insidious 002: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Insidious002-pemasu/

It was made as a test build. The specs worked just fine. I could say it was made as an honour for Iguleder because I promised to test his specs when he went to the army.

Insidious is test bed for debian packages as it is sayed in the debian archive. Packages are tested and then replaced again.
Using woof to build another and then another Insidious would lead to the another different test build with changed packages without intent.

I would say that Insidious saga is at the end.
I wont publish Insidious-002 as its own thread because of above. There would not be any support for it. As I stated above building improved version would lead to the different version because it is test bed for rapidly changing packages.

Nevertheless, the Insidious-002 was quite successful build.
It was done during the time without profound knowledge that it lays in so rapidly moving platform and that the Insidious thread was at it`s end.

Anyone who finds Insidious-002, can test it if he/she wishes. I have reports of satisfied users. But I dont take credit of it. It was all Iguleder`s hard work which enabled the release.

I personally hope that dpup squeeze would be still continued because it is now the stable version.

Well... I won`t delete the content of my posts also, because that would ruin this thread and could also lead.......
Confusion level is not critical, I think Smile

PS. gcmartin. Thank you of your kind suggestions. I will remember them in the future.

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PostPosted: Fri 11 Mar 2011, 08:36    Post subject:  

You can always edit your posts to reduce confusion. Laughing
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cagwait


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Mar 2011, 05:58    Post subject: squeeze dpup009 updated and remixed  

l've done a remaster of dpup009 squeeze by iguledar.
Being a admirer of both Debian and Puppy Linux i wanted to settle on dpup on my older pc. Smile
Having tried most of the original 'dpups' from gposil and squeeze dpup and insidious dpup from iguledar which i believe he is no longer maintaining due to other commitments, ive found this to be best one in my opinion.
The changelog to the original is:
The latest Firefox 3.6.15 added or Firefox 4.0rc. Seamonkey 2.06 is still available in the menu.
Upgraded to the latest Flashplayer 10.2 r151

Added Pidgin 2.7.7
Added MOC 2.4.4 music on command player with absolute classic rock radio in playlist

Removed some JWM themes and wallpapers and added some and changed default wallpaper
Fixed incorrect menu entry for meebo online messenger.

All credit must go to iguledar for all the original work he put into it ive just remastered it thats all to suit my tastes and update it.
My next challenge is to do a cut down version with maybe debians iceweasel or iceape browser and maybe my preferred fluxbox as Window manager.
Please download give it a try all comments welcome.
Download here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?wnzzoi5e7y7s836
http://www.mediafire.com/?qq7m11kcwc27tdc with firefox 4.0rc

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nancy reagan

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Mar 2011, 13:53    Post subject: Re: Recommendation to author  

gcmartin wrote:

P.S. My Question: Can I use the "APT" tool in this or any PUPs to add packages from Debian? Thx



Here is pdebthing, read the post for clearer idea.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59013
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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Mar 2011, 21:40    Post subject: Re: squeeze dpup009 updated and remixed  

cagwait wrote:
l've done a remaster of dpup009 squeeze by iguledar.
Being a admirer of both Debian and Puppy Linux i wanted to settle on dpup on my older pc. Smile
Having tried most of the original 'dpups' from gposil and squeeze dpup and insidious dpup from iguledar which i believe he is no longer maintaining due to other commitments, ive found this to be best one in my opinion.
The changelog to the original is:
The latest Firefox 3.6.15 added or Firefox 4.0rc. Seamonkey 2.06 is still available in the menu.
Upgraded to the latest Flashplayer 10.2 r151

Added Pidgin 2.7.7
Added MOC 2.4.4 music on command player with absolute classic rock radio in playlist

Removed some JWM themes and wallpapers and added some and changed default wallpaper
Fixed incorrect menu entry for meebo online messenger.

All credit must go to iguledar for all the original work he put into it ive just remastered it thats all to suit my tastes and update it.
My next challenge is to do a cut down version with maybe debians iceweasel or iceape browser and maybe my preferred fluxbox as Window manager.
Please download give it a try all comments welcome.
Download here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?wnzzoi5e7y7s836
http://www.mediafire.com/?qq7m11kcwc27tdc with firefox 4.0rc



It would probably be a good idea to start a new thread for these releases.Too much different stuff in a thread leads to confusion. Smile

Anyway, giving the FF 3.6.15 version a quick spin live pfix=ram and looks good so far.If I get a few extra minutes I'll probably do a quick frugal install for further testing.So far so good though.
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Mar 2011, 01:54    Post subject:  

Quote:
P.S. My Question: Can I use the "APT" tool in this or any PUPs to add packages from Debian? Thx

Not out of the box.

I tried installing apt in Insidious Puppy 001. Finding a sources.lst (or whatever it is) was disturbingly hard, but the real problem is when I try to install something it wants to install every dependency that is already installed, because apt doesn't know about the packages that are already installed.
If I allow it to try installing them all, it doesn't know the correct order to install them in, so it keeps complains about missing dependencies. If I try to force installing all the packages I end up with a broken system.
Maybe it would be possible to write a loop which goes through all the packages repeatedly, installing whatever is possible.
Or I could do what someone posted a while back: installing apt and painstakingly going through every package that came in their Puppy to tell apt they were installed... Sad

As Nancy suggests, try pdebthing - it is supposed to be able to detect installed packages in a debian or ubuntu based puppy.

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2011, 23:19    Post subject: Re: Recommendation to author  

Thanks to both @Disciple and @Nancy Reagan for trying to help me on
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My Question: Can I use the "APT" tool in this or any PUPs to add packages from Debian?
All I need now, for Debian/Ubuntu based PUPs, is to figure out how can one tell if pdebthing is installed in any PUP distro. Ideas, that you know of, would be helpful.

Question: Shouldn't all PUPs that are Debian/Ubuntu based have this installed or in the PUPs PPM?

Thanks in advance for any answers.

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Mar 2011, 01:49    Post subject: Isidious Pup  

Looks interesting as have always preferred Debian but since moving to the country am limited to 3G access so Puppies 4.31 and up are what I use.

Does Insidious Puppy include the standard 3G modem stuff? I'd like to know before I download because my downloading is limited by Verison. Good old Verison...
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sat 26 Mar 2011, 04:31    Post subject:  

TrailerTrash: Standard 3gmodem stuff is difficult sentence. Barry and Rerwin has updated 3gmodem scripts in almost every woof release. But both Insidious used those woof downloaded scripts of that time for 3gmodem handling.

Unfortunately only way is to try out.
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Sat 26 Mar 2011, 11:15    Post subject: Thanks pemasu  

Thanks pemasu for the remastered dpup009 which I'm downloading and excited to test. And thanks for reminding me about pdebthing.

And thank you iguleder for all the hard work you put into the contributions you've given to Puppians. Stay well.

Edit: Downloaded, unpacked into directory, Grub4dos did its thing, and dPup009 booted without a hitch. Added Wine 1.3.13-Lucid52, as it has the more user friendly Winetricks GUI. No problem. Ran Foxitreader Portable, as it has far more features than the Linux Version. Ran 7-Zip portable as I understand it better than XArchiver. Added InfoCentral, so I could access 20 years of notes. Added DaveS' Opera_Extra_distro' pet, and swapped out .mozilla for the one on my home partition, so I could maintain my bookmarks and setting regardless of which Puppy I'm in. Added JRB's SFS-TCZ-Linker-2.2 so I could use SFS's on the fly. Nothing got broken.

dPup009 seems to run faster than any other derivatives.
Now to explore the world of debian.


Thanks again pemasu & iguleder.

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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Sun 27 Mar 2011, 06:15    Post subject:  

" I made Insidious-002 using Iguleder`s specs "

http://brainwavedesigncentral.net/dima/inpu-002/

Sorry pemasu...I can't see it.

"""
Index of /dima/inpu-002

* Parent Directory
* DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS-debian-sid
* DISTRO_PET_REPOS
* DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-debian-sid
* DISTRO_SPECS
* packages-templates.tar.xz


////////

I see this >> inpu-001.iso

in the folder >> Index of /dima/insidious-001

* Parent Directory
* inpu-001.iso
* inpu_devx_001.sfs
* insidious_package_lists.tar.xz
* kernel_sources-2.6.32.26-pentium2-bfs.sfs
* md5sums.txt
* ndiswrapper-31122010-svn2728.tar.gz
* sources/

//////

I'd like to test this on USB.

Thanks mate....Chris.
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PostPosted: Sun 27 Mar 2011, 06:41    Post subject:  

cthisbear: Yes, those are the specs I used for Insidious-002. But the Insidious 002 iso can`t be there because I don`t have access to Iguleder`s ftp sites.

So I uploaded mine build to the ftp site, I have access.

Download link for the Insidious 002:
http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Insidious002-pemasu/
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PostPosted: Sun 27 Mar 2011, 18:06    Post subject:  

pemasu:

Thanks mate.
I thought the Sydney smog was addling my brain.

But it's OK now though.
A prolonged diagnosis suggests that there is no brain.

Feeling so much better....and downloading now.

Boots Ok....even on this Palsonic screen.

Running fine

Cheers....Chris.
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Apr 2011, 23:16    Post subject: clarity on insidious future  

pemasu wrote:


I would say that Insidious saga is at the end.



Hello Pemasu.

Just to be clear = there will not be an "Insidious 3"? Or do you have any further future planned for your own efforts, based on debian, that might come from 002? Seems a shame to let it slip away. Anyway, thank you for all your work on Puppy.

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