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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 08:40    Post subject: Announcing Luci 253 - The Most Leading-Edge Lucid Ever
Subject description: Lxterminal Emulator
 

lxterminal-0.1.9-i686.pet is a terminal emulator with tabs and can be
configured with various font styles or font size,transparent
background, etc.
Choose edit>preferences from the lxterminal menu to do the setup.

vte-0.26.2-i686.pet must also be installed or lxterminal won't run.

Edit: there are two other vte files that may be useful.
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live

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 09:50    Post subject:  

Lots of activities, good.

Some comments about updating, this or that

Personnally, I always starts by looking for soft statisfying my golden rule : KISS, light and for all conditions, if not I fold back on my silver rule "KISS all conditions" or max 3 "KISS ligth & stable".

Striking a good decision, prevents later hassle.

So regarding:

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2/ No WMA LossLess support.

live, Will VLC, Audacious, or Aqualung in PPM play WMA Lossless?


Well, I would say, the first decision is to know if a player can handle a sufficient amount of codecs or is there a need for 2 players ?
Do you also want to play list ? Do you want to handle conversions ? Do you want slow motion, zooming, etc.

On my personnal Windows system, my default player choice is still for everything media but MP3 SMPlayer, because it satisfy my golden rule, it handles everything DVD, WMV9, M4A, M4B, rm, aac3, mov, etc.
Today, on some PC, on gave me some movies and they didn't play with their default players, and again when I switch to my portable key with SMPlayer, everthing works liked a charm, no hassle.

VLC 1.1.x don't like, the interface, the sluggish loading speed, maybe the forthcoming 1.2 will improve, but I seriously doubt.

My choice, is mine and probably yours will be on other criteria.

Some personal examples:

Google chrome 11 (still in dev) or possibly Chrome 9(last with H264 support) are my default browser, since end 2010, because they satisfy my golden rule and no other browser. Everyday I see more evidence of this:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9214022/Google_s_Chrome_untouched_at_Pwn2Own_hack_match


Gnumeric I will not even consider it, has a spreadsheet soft in 2011, that can NOT properly handle a .csv test file with 6 cells, it just crap., (Bug reported, confirmed months ago, but still don't wanna fix).


I'll probably won't have much time to follow you till mid-April, so wishing go continuation in the meantime.

Respect.
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playdayz


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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:14    Post subject:  

We got lucky. VLC 1.1.7 Full Complete with Native Language Support
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/vlc-1.1.7-full-lucid52.pet

The problem with VLC 1.0.6 was that the "missing" libraries were present, but they needed a symlink, such as libvlc.so.5.0.1 to libvlc.so.5. This had not been necessary before. I am guessing a bash 4.1 issue???

Anyway. It would be very helpful to check packages in the PPM.

Remember, Quickpet -> More Pets -> Update Lupu PPM

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 11:02    Post subject: wma lossless  

great progress.

and if the worst thing that occurs is you don't support WMA lossless, I wouldn't be too concerned. "The format has never been publicly documented, and support for it remains limited outside of Windows-based PCs." - Wikipedia.

Open source audiophiles seem to lean toward FLAC, and the rest of the planet (Itunes users) default to Apple Lossless.

My dos centavos, which are even more worthless during inflation.

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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 11:05    Post subject:  

VLC the later one series is a lot easier to compile compared to the 0.8 and early 1 series, 0.8.6h took about 50 extra packages, early one series was unstable and took about 20, and the latest one I comiled on Wary was about 10 and Barry also made one for wary and I don't think he used anything else other qt.
With that in mind it wouldn't be all that hard to compile it for Luci.
I'll try to remember it for next time.

Luci list of things to do
Compile Beep Media Player with WMA
Compile latest VLC
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 11:19    Post subject:  

Hmmmm might not be all that easy to play a WMA lossless file
There is a bash way to convert them I found, might be better to make a gui that is link to mimes and when you click on a wma it converts it to wav and plays it in any old player. Simple and yet doesn't break any laws. Most of the readings I've read they've been talking about compiling media players with a MS dll which you would have to illegally provide to support it. So really the gui is probably the best method.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=b8de82180fff17cee46e3753871db1fb&p=9389038&postcount=5
Never tried it on beep media player, I just know there are sources for wma plugin, but from what I've read, it probably wouldn't work. does anyone have a WMA lossless they could tar.gz and upload on here and I could try it on 2.14X.
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 11:29    Post subject:  

gxine on 2.14x could play WMA lossless if you included MS dll /usr/lib/win32/wma9dmod.dll

lol I googled the dll and found it at http://www.nodevice.com/dll/wma9dmod_dll/item19358.html

and tossed it into /usr/lib/win32 and it works Smile too bad its illegal to distribute it.
you can find a test file at http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/lossless/
it wouldn't work without the dll, once it was installed it played perfect.
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 11:31    Post subject:  

Forget beep media player, it doesn't work with wma and the plugin and even the dll install, it just crashes.
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 11:38    Post subject:  

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gxine on 2.14x could play WMA lossless if you included MS dll /usr/lib/win32/wma9dmod.dll

lol I googled the dll and found it at http://www.nodevice.com/dll/wma9dmod_dll/item19358.html

and tossed it into /usr/lib/win32 and it works Smile too bad its illegal to distribute it.


Thanks ttuuxxx. I am pretty sure it is in w32codecs--I posted a link to that on medibuntu in a message above.

Foobar2000 which we have in PPM will play WMA Lossless I am informed, so we are covered.

I think I can produce a VLC 1.1.7 (later today)--if you would like I will produce a 'Full' version with the 21MB of locales, if you wanted to produce a 'streamlined' version Wink Mine will be over 30MB complete (as a pet)--how small can you get yours and still play everything? Wink

Mine is based on a slackware package, btw. Don't forget that you have to disable that don't run as root nuisance.
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 11:44    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
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gxine on 2.14x could play WMA lossless if you included MS dll /usr/lib/win32/wma9dmod.dll

lol I googled the dll and found it at http://www.nodevice.com/dll/wma9dmod_dll/item19358.html

and tossed it into /usr/lib/win32 and it works Smile too bad its illegal to distribute it.


Thanks ttuuxxx. I am pretty sure it is in w32codecs--I posted a link to that on medibuntu in a message above.

Foobar2000 which we have in PPM will play WMA Lossless I am informed, so we are covered.

I think I can produce a VLC 1.1.7 (later today)--if you would like I will produce a 'Full' version with the 21MB of locales, if you wanted to produce a 'streamlined' version Wink

sure I'll make a streamlined version, The difference between my last build and Barry's is that my version played more file types due to the extra format libs I added.
But really we should work on that script I posted the link and make a converter, it would be really tiny and give us extra formats, its better to be compatible legally out of the box than not at all.
maybe someone should try the WMA Lossless file on foobar first maybe what was tried was wma which gxine/mplayer can play its the Lossless format where you need the dll
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/lossless/luckynight.wma
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 11:53    Post subject:  

About guvcview-1.4.4. I started to wonder the size and i checked the contents. I had packaged ntfs3g driver with it. I just cant imagine how that has happened.
Too tired probably when I had done the packages and tens of folders open. Too many anyway. Sorry for the mispackaged pet.
I reuploaded the package and I upload it here also.
Difference to 01mickos compile is that jack and libjack files are not included. Only libs needed for guvcview.
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 12:07    Post subject:  

You beat me to it!

Here's a pet with part of the w32codec player package, . This allows gnomeplayer to play wma lossless. I'm still sifting through the main package as when the whole lot's installed vlc also will play wma lossless. I'll also test with other players.

edited to remove pet.

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ummm those are WM dll files, I really wouldn't post them on the forum, its illegal, you don't have permission by microsoft to post them.


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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 12:19    Post subject:  

666philb wrote:
You beat me to it!

Here's a pet with part of the w32codec player package, . This allows gnomeplayer to play wma lossless. I'm still sifting through the main package as when the whole lot's installed vlc also will play wma lossless. I'll also test with other players.

666philb


ummm those are WM dll files, I really wouldn't post them on the forum, its illegal, you don't have permission by microsoft to post them. Using links that I didn't make and just googled is ok, but posting them on here actually is placing them on http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/ makes john murga inadvertently breaking the law by hosting them. Maybe you should delete them by editing the post.
Its not so bad if there was a linux alternative, but these files are actual Ms system files. And we all know what bastards they are.
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 12:32    Post subject:  

Ahh well, it's a shame because gnomeplayer, vlc and amarok were all working with them. But foobar works with wma lossless, and can convert them to flac/mp3 or what ever you want.

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 13:03    Post subject:  

666philb wrote:
Ahh well, it's a shame because gnomeplayer, vlc and amarok were all working with them. But foobar works with wma lossless, and can convert them to flac/mp3 or what ever you want.

666philb


Thanks for doing the right thing Smile I also think sometimes it sucks doing the right thing, but it keeps us honest, well that's about the only reason, its not that I care about MS goods and services one bit, but I would hate to see you or john get your knuckles raked over the coals.
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