The Official Release of Lucid 5.25 (Lucid Five Twenty-Five)

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James C · #161 Post by **James C** » Wed 02 Mar 2011, 21:15

bigpup wrote:
yarddog wrote:
playdayz wrote:Has anyone had trouble with gparted since the release of lucid 5.2?

I know Jades has with the K6. Anyone else, with what cpu? Thanks.
tried to use gparted in luci-252
when select option to run in system-gparted nothing happens

when try to run from command line receive following

# gparted
gparted: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgiomm-2.4.so.1: undefined symbol: g_resolver_error_quark

running intel pentium m cpu - intel 82855 processor - 512 mb memory
vga ati radeon mobility m6 ly

yarddog
Gparted works for me with no problems.
How are you running Luci 252?
Be specific. If you upgraded, what kind?

No problem with Gparted here in my full install of 252 upgraded from 5.20.Just reformatted an empty partition...working fine.

#162 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 02 Mar 2011, 21:21

yarddog wrote:
my question is the gnumeric-1.10.13 pet places both 1.10.12 and 1.10.13 in /usr/lib/gnumeric and /usr/share/gnumeric - if 1.10.12 is not needed, why is it inclluded ini the 1.10.13 pet

just trying to understand the process

thanks
yarddog

My Gnumeric package does not contain any part of Gnumeric 1.10.12, I even tested for sake of an argument, The only thing I reused was a .desktop file, no directories etc. I even went as far as to delete /usr/lib/gnumeric and /usr/share/gnumeric and installed the pet and no Gnumeric 1.10.12 was found anywhere.
ttuuxxx

bigpup · #163 Post by **bigpup** » Wed 02 Mar 2011, 21:37

Could this be causing Abiword to mess up?
Having a folder for version 2.6 and version 2.8?
This is how it comes with Luci 252.

James C · #164 Post by **James C** » Wed 02 Mar 2011, 21:39

Just tested Gparted in the frugal install of 252 upgraded from 251.......no problems.

playdayz · #165 Post by **playdayz** » Wed 02 Mar 2011, 22:14

Please don't call me cynical

but Abiword has been flaky on every computer I have ever sued it on. I have had that same experience. I created an html file in Abiword and then abiword refused to open it--saying it was flawed or something.

I personally don't think it has anything to do with Puppy.

I would be open to an alternative, but to be honest I haven't found one that I regarded as workable. We have to have an open source word processor--a "real" one.

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Progress Report

Bash 4.2 working OK
Openssl 0.9.8r working OK - Feb 2011 - updated and maintained for people like us
geany 0.21 working OK
gnumeric, goffice, libgfs - working correctly afaik - no errors - ttuuxxx's build - we have two candidates but ttuuxxx won last time so he goes first this time

gparted - 0.6.2 is back with libparted updated to 2.3 from 2.2

Now, what are we going to do the next 5 days

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James C · #166 Post by **James C** » Wed 02 Mar 2011, 22:33

Been running my 2 upgrade installs of 252 with no real problems. Between both installs I've been trying SeaMonkey 2.0.11, Firefox 3.6.14,Firefox 4.0 Beta 12, Chromium and Opera 11.01.......all have been working fine.No crashes yet anyway.
On to more testing...

James C · #167 Post by **James C** » Wed 02 Mar 2011, 22:37

playdayz wrote: Now, what are we going to do the next 5 days
.

Doesn't appear to be a lot of bugs but probably need more feedback on upgrade installs.

scsijon · #168 Post by **scsijon** » Wed 02 Mar 2011, 23:01

playdayz wrote:Please don't call my cynical but Abiword has been flaky on every computer I have ever sued it on. I have had that same experience. I created an html file in Abiword and then abiword refused to open it--saying it was flawed or something.

I personally don't think it has anything to do with Puppy.

I would be open to an alternative, but to be honest I haven't found one that I regarded as workable. We have to have an open source word processor--a "real" one..

Well i've been playing with siag (Siag Office is a tightly integrated, free office package. It consists of the spreadsheet Siag, the word processor PW, the animation program Egon, the text editor XedPlus, the file manager Xfiler and the previewer Gvu) pet for 335 is out there (latest is 361) and about a 2.2meg pet, and egon works properly with 5.2. May allow a few other packages to go while your at it as xed has things like a threader built in to it.

regards
scsijon

@james, havent done much testing yet as working elsewhere at present most of my free time,

If I can't find a few more decent problems down deeper, well......, that's why I asked for a week.

playdayz · #169 Post by **playdayz** » Wed 02 Mar 2011, 23:12

Doesn't appear to be a lot of bugs but probably need more feedback on upgrade installs.

I'll probably create us some bugs by doing all of these updates of the software

James C · #170 Post by **James C** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 00:32

Luci-252 live pfix=ram in the main Linux box.Everything good on initial boot.
Installed Firefox 4.0 B12 and Nvidia 96.43.16 driver.
No problem with Gparted.

VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 252

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
2889 frames in 5.0 seconds
2904 frames in 5.0 seconds
2946 frames in 5.0 seconds
2979 frames in 5.0 seconds
4231 frames in 5.0 seconds
5496 frames in 5.0 seconds
5217 frames in 5.0 seconds
5517 frames in 5.0 seconds

VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (170MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.25
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 02 Mar 2011 06:30:12 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

01micko · #171 Post by **01micko** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 00:39

playdayz wrote:
xz compression is broken. As such txz and tar.xz can't be opened.
01micko, I was able to create a tar.xz in 520 and unpack it in 252. It took 2 steps--it unpacked the xz to tar and then unpacked the tar.

The opening screen for pupzip does not show a wrapper for txz (or for tar.xz for that matter). Is that the problem? Do you have access to sample of txz?

No example but you can grab any txz file from slackware repos and test if you like.

What it seems is that xz-utils is needed. Then you can install a txz as a pet but there is something missing.. Barry has a wrapper for it somewhere. As is you need to do it from command line. However, that was not my motivation.
When I tried to start and spup build, luci would not unpack the txz files. They are unpacked with the tar command:

Code: Select all

 tar -iJxf some_package-1.txz

the 'J' calling xz compression. This would fail.

Solution:
You could add these to the woof
xz-utils_4.999.9beta+20091116-1_i386.deb
liblzma1_4.999.9beta+20091116-1_i386.deb
xz-utils depends on liblzma

yes|xz-utils|xz-utils,liblzma1|exe,dev,doc

OR use the attached pet

OR forget it and not have that feature!

Also there are some extra mimetypes, probably getting the latest quirky rox-filer would cover that.

Cheers

yarddog · #172 Post by **yarddog** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 00:42

bigpup wrote:

yarddog
Gparted works for me with no problems.
How are you running Luci 252?
Be specific. If you upgraded, what kind?

was running from live cd with save file on usb stick - no idea what caused my problem - booted from live cd with usb stick , ran gparted ok
reformatted usb stick and started over - all is well now

yarddog

yarddog · #173 Post by **yarddog** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 01:18

ttuuxxx wrote:
yarddog wrote:
my question is the gnumeric-1.10.13 pet places both 1.10.12 and 1.10.13 in /usr/lib/gnumeric and /usr/share/gnumeric - if 1.10.12 is not needed, why is it inclluded ini the 1.10.13 pet

just trying to understand the process

thanks
yarddog
My Gnumeric package does not contain any part of Gnumeric 1.10.12, I even tested for sake of an argument, The only thing I reused was a .desktop file, no directories etc. I even went as far as to delete /usr/lib/gnumeric and /usr/share/gnumeric and installed the pet and no Gnumeric 1.10.12 was found anywhere.
ttuuxxx

was running luci-252 from live cd with save to usb stick -
i don't know what caused the duplication unless was from save file
as previously stated i deleted gnumeric folder from /usr/lib and /usr/share before installing your pet, then i restarted x after installing your pet
anyway - deleted save file and created again - now all is well
thanks for your assistance and patience with dumb user

yarddog

bigpup · #174 Post by **bigpup** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 03:44

HomeBank is up to version 4.4
A lot of bug fixes.
http://homebank.free.fr/index.php?id=10

#175 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 03:45

yarddog wrote: was running luci-252 from live cd with save to usb stick -
i don't know what caused the duplication unless was from save file
as previously stated i deleted gnumeric folder from /usr/lib and /usr/share before installing your pet, then i restarted x after installing your pet
anyway - deleted save file and created again - now all is well
thanks for your assistance and patience with dumb user

yarddog

I don't think your a dumb user, just someone on a long learning experience. Heck I still mess-up like that .desktop file, I sometimes reuse them so that it uses the same icon and menu location as the previous, because different releases sometimes change these things and its nice to keep them current, so we don't get missing icons in the menu, or new locations for the files and saves me about 3-5 minutes of testing.
Before it was really just Gimp that was using a version number on the bin files, I think Gnumeric lastime made the system link to the bin, because I don't remember having to make it last time.

Anyways, Linux is ongoing learning, never feel dumb about it, you should feel great about it, when other users read your post and they might have the same problem, but when they read how you fixed it, you might of just saved them tons of hours.

ttuuxxx

bigpup · #176 Post by **bigpup** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 03:55

ttuuxxx,

You ever have problems like this with the Abiword you have in Clasic Pup 2.14X?

bigpup wrote:Luci 252 full install upgrade from Luci 251.
Abiword problems.
I know this has been talked about in the past, but Abiword refuses to open some files that where originally made with Abiword.
This seems to be hit or miss on which ones will work or not work.
I stopped using Abiword because wast all that time making a document and you may not be able to reopen later.

#177 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 04:41

bigpup wrote:ttuuxxx,

You ever have problems like this with the Abiword you have in Clasic Pup 2.14X?

bigpup wrote:Luci 252 full install upgrade from Luci 251.
Abiword problems.
I know this has been talked about in the past, but Abiword refuses to open some files that where originally made with Abiword.
This seems to be hit or miss on which ones will work or not work.
I stopped using Abiword because wast all that time making a document and you may not be able to reopen later.

No I never really had any problems with it, I'm not sure if the one in luci is a Ubuntu or puppy build, but Barry has been known to reduce some of the plugins in the iso to reduce the overall size of it. Maybe its as simple as that, or it might be time to recompile it.
I'll have a look at it, does anyone have a file that was made on abiword and doesn't work on luci that they could tar.gz and upload on here for testing purposes.
It kind of hard to fix something that you can't actually test without having an example.

ttuuxxx

bigpup · #178 Post by **bigpup** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 05:19

Here is one that will not open for me.

#179 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 05:49

bigpup wrote:Here is one that will not open for me.

Hi there error is (abiword:31994): WARNING **: Seeking in gzipped streams is awfully slow.
basically what I get from that is the system backend its using to open tar.gz files needs updating, meaning its probably not even a abiword issue.
I compiled the latest abiword 2.9.0 and still had the error.
I'll package it up anyways, funny the newer model number needed 3 new lib/deps to compile the Opendocument plugin. And also needed some dev files for the devx.
It might take a bit of time to upload it/package it. I'm a bit busy with dinner/kids.
ttuuxxx

Lobster · #180 Post by **Lobster** » Thu 03 Mar 2011, 06:17

I have always found Abiword stable for one/two page letters.

So most of the time for most users it is fine.
Probably better but not more stable than Ted http://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/
which used to be in Puppy . . .

Always found Abiword completely unreliable for 10 or 20 page or above documents.

Especially if adding graphics, tables etc.
That is across different computers, going right back to Windows
and all versions of Puppy.

With Siag, open office, textwriter (in ppm), javascript WP and cloud WP
I have options.

It may be too late for 5.2.1 but I believe the 'click browser and be given choice', that is used on first Lucid boot - with a small default
can be extended to the 'write' icon and other icons.

Linux is choice. It may be that OpenOffice/LibreOffice (always found works)
can be compiled and made quite small.

Abiword is small.
Small and not working?

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