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mave

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PostPosted: Fri 11 Feb 2011, 14:04    Post_subject: language packs for cups 1.3.11  

Available lang-packs for cups 1.3.11, including also main-page of the cups-interface, which isn't in /usr/share/cups/templates...

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 01:37    Post_subject: Welcome1stboot  

I modified the welcome1stboot.
Sensing Puppy status and gives proper message.
See the SS.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 04:04    Post_subject: Wary-500m08 beta release  

Now the beta release Wary-500m08 is available.

If you already have the previous wary-500m on your HDD, replace all the 3 system files, vmlinuz, initrd.gz and wary_500.sfs.
The lang_pack is also updated. Remove the old lang_pack and replace with the new contained in the wary-500m08.iso.

CHANGES:
  • vmlinuz and wary_500.sfs has unique id to avoid taking wrong system files
  • First run sequence, new welcome1stboot, index.html, home.htm.
  • extralang updated to v0.3
  • updated lang_pack's including cups translations, thanks to mave
  • desktop icon distance same as LupQ-511
  • pnethood utf8 option as the default
  • sfs_load updated to v0.7
  • pupsaveconfig updated to v1.9.9
  • grub4dosconfig updated to v1.7
  • Puppyhelp updated
  • util-linux updated to 2.16.1-1-w5
  • rc.update updated(lol) as the one of wary-501/3
  • Puppy Package Manager bugfix and improved splash(not includes zigbert's new GUI)
  • Snup2 comes back to the main menu replacing pbackup


TO DO:

EDIT: We keep Xvesa for now. See the followed discussion.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 07:38    Post_subject:  

Hi Shinobar.
Haven't been home for a long time.
Today i tried your new "Wary-08".So far so good .No problem.
My favorite one is LUPQ-511. I use it on my laptop [ live-DVD],
but i think Wary-08 is much better to my desktop PC.
Can you tell me is there something really important to move from LUPQ-511 to Wary or you plan to update LUPQ-511 too ?
Greetings !!!
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 09:35    Post_subject: Future plan  

yordanj94 wrote:
Can you tell me is there something really important to move from LUPQ-511 to Wary or you plan to update LUPQ-511 too ?

Hi, yordan. Welcome back.

I will update the LupQ after the wary development settles down.
But I think wary is faster than lupQ/lupu for old PC's.
I recommend lupQ only for heavy users who want to install Ubuntu packages.

One concern with wary is Barry is introducing new kernel for the next wary-5.1.
So the kernel 2.6.31.14 of the wary-500 seems tentative.

My another interest is updating Puppy-4.x series with our new user interface and updated applications.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 10:18    Post_subject:  

Great news .
Puppy 4.3.1 was my first live CD,but i had a real nightmare with a cyrillic letters,especially with saved web pages on my usb flash card so couldn't read most of them and had to gave up.
I don't need any Ubuntu packages ,but LUPQ-511 for sure works better on Dell Latitude c610 especially touchpad settings .
What surprised me was that for the same avi files mplayer in Wary uses 45% and LUPQ 85% of the processor power.
It's not so important just curious .
Thanks for your hard job.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 10:19    Post_subject: Translation of documents  

shinobar wrote:
new welcome1stboot, index.html, home.htm

  1. /usr/share/doc/index.html is no more updated when installing/uninstalling applications thanks to the new puppyhelp.
    You can place your translation at /usr/share/doc/help/LANGUAGE_CODE/index.html.
  2. You can also place /usr/share/doc/LANGUAGE_CODE/home.html. Note that it will be copied at /usr/share/doc/hom.html, be caution of the reference link.
  3. The translations of /usr/share/doc/HOWTO-*.htm shall be at /usr/share/doc/help/LANGUAGE_CODE/HOWTO-*.htm
  4. Some other documentations to be translated is in the directory /usr/share/doc/help/C.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 16:20    Post_subject: Wary-500m08
Sub_title: video_upgrade_wizard [SOLVED] and xvesa
 

thanks for the new version, shinobar

You have on the TODO list "remove Xvesa" !
Xvesa has advantages, too.
In current version of Xorg there are no resolutions for widescreen monitors e.g. 1280x720x24. I think other people will need or like it, too.
Why remove? Just because of size?

Having tested video_upgrade

I have made a small quick hack (1 line) that will show manufacturers other than ati etc.
Code:

#12feb11 display manufacturer other than intel nvidia and ati, too # quick hack by L18L
[ "$MANUFACTURER" = "" ] &&  MANUFACTURER="`echo $VIDEODETAILS | cut -d '\"' -f 4`"
HEADERMSG="<text><label>`eval_gettext \"Your computer has an '\\\${MANUFACTURER}' video chip:\"`</label></text>   <text use-markup=\"true\"><label>\"<b>${DESCRIPTION}</b>PCI chip numbers: ${MANUFID}:${DEVICEID}\"</label></text>"
that correctly displays "VIA Technologies, Inc. [1106]"

await more comments
Quote:
in couple of days
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 19:15    Post_subject: Re: Xvesa  

L18L wrote:
You have on the TODO list "remove Xvesa" !
Xvesa has advantages, too.
In current version of Xorg there are no resolutions for widescreen monitors e.g. 1280x720x24. I think other people will need or like it, too.
Why remove? Just because of size?

The size of the Xvesa is 1.1MB.
Main reason is some keyboads like Canadian French and some variants are supported only with Xorg, not with Xvasa, which may confuse users.
I thought anything Xvesa can is replaced with Xorg.
What you L18L mentioned seems not the problem of Xorg but the issue of xorgwizard.

But it is not easy to hack the xorgwizard...
Moreover, i know some hardware hungs with Xorg, exactly with the command 'Xorg -configue', which is hard to escape.
So we seem better to keep the Xvesa for now.

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Feb 2011, 00:50    Post_subject: Slim down the fonts  

Delete 3 font files(1.6MB in total) from Wary-500m08 to see what happens.

Under /usr/share/fonts/default/TTF:
DejaVuSans-BoldOblique.ttf
DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf
DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf

(But leave 'DejaVuSans.ttf')
Then run 'fc-cache -f', restart X.

They can be removed because the fontconfig in Wary-500m08 makes bold and italic from the standard font.
But some applications does not support fontconfig and it may be a problem.
I am not sure what application does not...
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Feb 2011, 06:31    Post_subject: Slim down the fonts  

monospace is not working but there is Nimbus Mono L
the other fonts are ok in abiword
edited 2011-02-14
Arrow There should be a fonts.alias pointing the missing monospace to Nimbus Mono L Idea
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Feb 2011, 15:46    Post_subject: Wary-500m08 beta release
Sub_title: slim down, removing some applicatons
 

slim down
let us rethink about which scripts have to be builtin for all (will grow up) languages:
countrysetup
extralang
pupsaveconfig
and nothing else, would it be sufficent?
Changing language as soon as possible, maybe moving the X server stuff to after language changing?

removing some applicatons
my 236k: sqlitemanager though newest version 0.6.8-all.xpi is localized in 6 languages, who needs it can download it herself, size 236kB from http://code.google.com/p/sqlite-manager/
edit 2011-02-15
another 60kB: gmeasures delivers wrong results in wary (1 Cubic Meter is not 1 Cubic Yard)
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 15:16    Post_subject: welcome1stboot (the new one of course)
Sub_title: nicly sized window
 

(now long ago) rodin.s wrote:
Quote:
Can you post a screenshot.

Here is a variant of welcome1stboot
-try in which WINHEIGHT and WINWIDTH your translation is looking nicer.
do it connected to the internet. A fix amount for WINHEIGHT is added because of longer text of message if not yet connected
- Note, last line of script is changed (geometry). Don't ask why it works this way. I don't know.
- changed window decorated=true just for testing
- gettext can be (miss?)used for language dependent geometry, this will keep the script shorter and maintainable.
Have fun playing with it Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 17:30    Post_subject: russian po-files update  

This new welcome1stboot looks better.
I have updated some po and mo files and also added ru-line to SFS-Load desktop file.
There is a small mistake in pman and L10n doesn't work:
Code:
export TEXT_DOMAIN=pman

should be:
Code:
export TEXTDOMAIN=pman
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 20:22    Post_subject: welcome1stboot  

Thanks L18L and rodin for the work.
As for the welcome1stboot, aesthetic can not be ignored,
but i think we are better to take safety.
(Anyway, it cannot be fully displayed with 640x480 screen.)

I am going to display the puppyhelp dialog on the top-left corner of the screen
at the end of the first boot sequence, instead of directly showing the welcome1stboot.

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