Fatdog64-511

[Lobster]

import bookmarks didn't work with the built-in firefox?

Further to my post I have now replicated this under FF in Ubuntu 10.10 BUT the 64 bit version . . . I will download and install a 32 bit version of Ubuntu (which imported OK previously)
I am noticing in the HTML that there looks like crypto generated passwords for links and it may be some conflict between 32 bit and 64 bit?
Just grabbing at straws guys. No one else has reported it and I have a solution, so . . . just keeping you informed
I think the HTML is somehow corrupted as this happened in 32 bit Ubuntu - boo - how so? Oh boy tracking these things is too much . . .
I think FatDog is OK though . . .

[jamesbond]

Lobster,

I tried this (a bit stupid way to test may be) - I exported my current bookmarks from 511, I boot with pfix=ram and tried to import it - and it worked fine. So at least the export/import seems to be working fine. And as you say, it doesn't work for Ubuntu 10.04 either. So the question would be, may be the source file is too old, or like you say, 32/64-bit doesn't mingle very well.

I'm at lost to explain though why the FF you install from repo works, because that kirk put in the repo is identical to what you have in 511 ...

EDIT - no, the one in the repository is the development files. So I'm not sure where you get your copy of the Firefox 3.6.12 from?

[jamesbond]

... And finally then you need to have the program to do all you want. (For printscreen, it's very easy - just execute "mtpaint -s"). From mtpaint you can save to a file, you can print, etc.

Maybe the next interation of FATDOG will bring this about for all of the community.

Thanks

Yes, I hope so. The program I use is "sven" - this is what Fluppy 11 uses. It's also available in the forum for other puppies. I'm testing it, it's working fine, and I'll upload it to the repo and share with everyone in due time.

cheers!

[Lobster]

Not sure where I got the updated FF
I did root about - may have been from the PPM but I have a feeling I rooted around
on one of the FD repositories

So the question would be, may be the source file is too old

It is very old - two or three years maybe
and it has been used and saved from both Seamonkey and FF and perhaps even Opera.

I thought HTML was more robust.

on another track . . .
Barry does not have a 64bit capacity for Woof does he? Or maybe this is being considered?

[jamesbond]

It is very old - two or three years maybe
and it has been used and saved from both Seamonkey and FF and perhaps even Opera.

That may explain it. My habit for things like this is to import the bookmark into a relatively new version, and re-export it. Thus I can be sure that my bookmark file is never too old for the recent browser. Alternatively, there is a few little utilities (in the forum) that will clean-up the bookmark file and presents it as a normal HTML, from which then you can proceed to open the links and add the bookmark again (with the added benefit of checking whether those links are still active)

Another alternative which I do, is that each time I have a new installation, I just copy the entire .mozilla directory (under /root/spot for recent Fatdog, under /root for all other puppies) to the new puppy. This usually works very well, not only you get the bookmarks but also all the other customisations such as your add-ons etc - but obviously it only works for the same browser (seamonkey or firefox). It doesn't work for Opera methinks.

I thought HTML was more robust.

It does, but there isn't any standard on what one can put into bookmark.html ...

on another track . . .
Barry does not have a 64bit capacity for Woof does he? Or maybe this is being considered?

No. Woof is 32-bit only. That's why kirk doesn't base Fatdog on woof - he uses materials from woof (the scripts) and tracks woof development (for important updates etc) - but it's a manual process and is not 100% sync with woof. So one can't expect new features to automatically appear on Fatdog.

[oui]

Hi

Very good puppy! Thank you.

Only a little detail:

As old Puppy user I would now prefer to interchange the non classic puppy equipment with firefox + sylpheed + spot and reinstall the good old seamonkey this to have the possibility to re use all my actual seamonkey files from quirky and 511 as they are and reinstall them after an intervention on them with the laptop if I don't use the laptop (only the one laptop is able to work in 64 bit!) writing the files directly into /root/.mozilla/seamonkey as usual (the spot-management seems to split the data into different groups in /root/.mozilla and /spot, and not only for didiwiki as written in a text info)

and I would prefer to erase the firefox, sylpheed and spot because it need a lot of bites that I can better use.

Is that possible and what is to do?

Salut

[kirk]

If you want to run Firefox as root (Seamonkey would be similar) from the Fatdog home screen, click on "FAQs" and then on "Firefox won't save to xxxx."

As far as removing Firefox, deleting /usr/lib64/firefox-3.6.12 will do it, but keep in mind it's in the read only SFS file, so deleting it really just hides it. To really remove it you could do this:

1) Copy the the contents of the main sfs to your hard drive.

# mkdir /mnt/home/SFS
# cp -a /initrd/pup_ro2 /mnt/home/SFS

2) Delete Firefox (you could add stuff too if you like)

# rm -r /mnt/home/SFS/usr/lib64/firefox-3.6.12
# rm /mnt/home/SFS/usr/share/applications/Firefox.desktop

3) Make a new SFS file.

# cd /mnt/home
# mksquashfs sfs fd64-511.sfs


Also I uploaded a new pet package for Geany-0.20 including all pluggins (spell check).

[Lobster]

Alternatively, there is a few little utilities (in the forum) that will clean-up the bookmark file and presents it as a normal HTML

Thanks for the advice. That HTML corruption could be the source of other browser problems, that no one else is reporting. I don't want my bookmarks in the cloud. I did have them there but forget several of the locations.

[jamesbond]

Alternatively, there is a few little utilities (in the forum) that will clean-up the bookmark file and presents it as a normal HTML

Thanks for the advice. That HTML corruption could be the source of other browser problems, that no one else is reporting. I don't want my bookmarks in the cloud. I did have them there but forget several of the locations.

I wouldn't want it to put in the cloud also. For cleaning HTML, here's one for example - See second post from the bottom, from Joe (big_bass) http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=56680

[gcmartin]

I had asked about VBox 4.02 for FATDOG.

Hope this helps

[jamesbond]

Virtualbox compiles and installs cleanly in Fatdog straight from Oracle's installer. I'm using it right now. All you need is devx.

cheers!

[zigbert]

And I thought the ordinary Puppy was fast.....WOW


Thanks a lot
Sigmund

[dolphinsupernova]

Very impressed with Fatdog. Got it on my new 64bit kit and blistering fast!

[gcmartin]

Thanks JamesBond. I think you foresee where this is going.

Virtualbox compiles and installs cleanly in Fatdog straight from Oracle's installer. I'm using it right now. All you need is devx.

cheers!

What is the chance that you can post your complied version when you have a moment.

Thanks again. I may now begin to take advantage of all the excess power and memory that exist in this 64bit Home PC.

Note to anyone wanting to use FATDOG and Vbox together: ALL 64bit AMDs have VM support build into its hardware. Most 64bit Intels do, too, BUT you must check to determine this (Some of their 64bit processors like Atom do not possess this at this time). There is a feature of Linux known as KVM which takes advantage of the VM hardware assist built into 64bit processors FATDOG is unique in that it can easily take advantage of this Linux benefit without any downsides!

Because of this uniqueness in the Puppy family, FATDOG can exploit these types of newer and modern hardware enhancements which translates into the performance benefits we enjoy.

[Billtoo]

Here's a tetris game.

[jamesbond]

Thanks JamesBond. I think you foresee where this is going.

And that's the direction I don't want to go at the moment

That being said, attached is a script that will install virtualbox for you - straight from source, no questions asked.

[anAF]

Hello,
do any of you know if it's possible to compile and run the Arachne browser under Fatdog64?
It also has a sort of gui to access the desktop and some utilities:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne_%28web_browser%29


Sources here:
http://www.glennmcc.org/aralinux/







Is it possible to compile and run it, or maybe to have a .pet? Or is it really just for a CLI-only version of linux? In that case, does a CLI only version of Fatdog exist?

[jamesbond]

anAF, Arachne requires svgalib. Svgalib requires exclusive screen access, it is not compatible with X. Svgalib hasn't been updated for a very long time (wikipedia says since 2001) - so good luck trying systems that can actually run it.

If you need a CLI browser, I'd recommend elinks, available in the repository, with thanks to Billtoo for compiling it.

Fatdog CLI is always available - just choose Quit X Server from menu , or use pfix=nox in the boot line.

cheers!

[jamesbond]

Here's a tetris game.

Thanks Billtoo. I'll upload this to the repo. Are you interested in compiling this? http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload ... -4551.html (original website doesn't have the files for download anymore). I had it working in Fatdog 111 (early 32-bit version of Fatdog, from time long past).

[Billtoo]

Here's a tetris game.

Thanks Billtoo. I'll upload this to the repo. Are you interested in compiling this? http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload ... -4551.html (original website doesn't have the files for download anymore). I had it working in Fatdog 111 (early 32-bit version of Fatdog, from time long past).

I couldn't download the source code to take a shot at compiling it, the link comes up with a 404 error.