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#4101 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Bill, I also compiled Xine-Ui and I didn't need to compile ffmpeg,libxine, nothing at all, just the Ui, anyways then I changed and compressed the theme, I changed the splash screen, I ditched the mimes, because they aren't needed, we already have mimes for the defaultmediaplayer etc. I ditched the sample video and replaced it with a system to puppy's video examples, I also changed the icons for better and smaller ones including some system links and made a .desktop for it.
It really does reduce the overall size :) and looks better :)
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#4102 Post by Billtoo »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Bill, I also compiled Xine-Ui and I didn't need to compile ffmpeg,libxine, nothing at all, just the Ui, anyways then I changed and compressed the theme, I changed the splash screen, I ditched the mimes, because they aren't needed, we already have mimes for the defaultmediaplayer etc. I ditched the sample video and replaced it with a system to puppy's video examples, I also changed the icons for better and smaller ones including some system links and made a .desktop for it.
It really does reduce the overall size :) and looks better :)
ttuuxxx
I was compiling libxine when I got an error about ffmpeg so I just downloaded the latest and compiled that first, anyhow, xine is a great application for watching dvd movies.

You sure are good at reducing the size of applications, I just used the option to do exe,dev,doc,nls when I used the new2dir script, anything else is beyond my ability at this time.
I don't know why I couldn't create a menu entry?

edit: I dragged the xine file to the desktop and gave it an icon that I found on the web.

edit: I've been playing some more :)
I compiled mplayer-export-snapshot.tar.bz2
and made a pet of that (approx 9mb) and I
wanted to compile smplayer but had no luck
doing that so I used the
gnome-mplayer-20100521-q1.pet and I also
had to use glibc-2.10.1-w5.pet to get the
gnome-mplayer pet to work, also needed
SDL-1.2.14-i486.pet that I made for Ltris
installed.
In the end it all works :) and mplayer plays
a lot more file types, mp4,m4v,mpg, etc.
along with movie dvds.
The mplayer pet is too big to attach to a
message but I made the pet from the
nightly build of mplayer if you're interested
in doing one.

Edit: I backed up my save file for 214X top5 and burned the 214X top 6 cd and I'm posting from top6 now.
All the pets that I made in top 5 work and gnome-mplayer didn't need the
glibc-2.10.1-w5.pet to work because of the change that you made to top 6.
214X is great :) Easy on the eyes and solid (as in stable), nice work ttuuxxx.
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#4103 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi Bill

I see why you needed to compile ffmpeg :) Xine-ui is a front-end to libxine, 2.14X has Gxine which is frontend to lib-xine, there is no need to compile libxine to compile Xine-ui because its already included in 2.14X :) but if you did compile the latest libxine, then it would call for the latest ffmpeg.
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#4104 Post by sheldonisaac »

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sheldonisaac wrote: I just booted frugal 2.14X TOP-6, and am running Opera 10.63 (can I use 11.01?)
Oops: just noticed at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64380
it says in part
Opera 11.01-1190 sfs4 SFS package for Puppy Linux 5 series
Is there any way that it can run under 2.14X? Ever?

Many thanks,
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#4105 Post by ttuuxxx »

sheldonisaac wrote:
Opera 11.01-1190 sfs4 SFS package for Puppy Linux 5 series
Is there any way that it can run under 2.14X? Ever?

Many thanks,
Sheldon
I spent all day on this Opera version, lol I made it look like Firefox, I hate the default layout and look of opera, So I change some of the code, Icons etc. and look below what it looks like, I'm actually very impressed with it, It does not come with kde or Gstreamer deps, so I removed those related libs, It runs great, but I'm not too sure what isn't functioning without those extra deps/libs. Anyways it works like a charm.
ttuuxxx

Ps I'm actually thinking of putting it into 2.14X, since its smaller than firefox, But first I would realllllllly have to think about it :)

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#4106 Post by ttuuxxx »

Oh ya if you look at the pic above and notice a Open Solaris tab opened well that's because I was given 3 Sun Micro Systems Blade 1500 pc's, that have a sparc x64 cpu's, they came with updated video cards extra usb cards and a total of 4 GB of ram and 3x80gb drives wow what a diverse set of pc's I've been getting first 2 mac's now 3 blades, glad I have a large computer room :)
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#4107 Post by ttuuxxx »

I just reuploaded the Opera browser because I noticed I missed a few link icons for the url taskbar for boorkmarks,find,printing,mail
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#4108 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi sheldonisaac have you tried the opera pet I made? Also has anyone else tried it yet? I did spend most of the day on it, a little feedback would be nice, lol
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Trying Opera

#4109 Post by sheldonisaac »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi sheldonisaac have you tried the opera pet I made? Also has anyone else tried it yet? I did spend most of the day on it, a little feedback would be nice, lol
Good morning, ttuuxxx.

Just waking up in cold, wet, icy Philadelpha, PA.

Your energy is amazing!

I will get the pet from your message, and try it.

Also, your fellow developer, SitHeelSpeak, is looking into it.
See around http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 904#492904
(Hope that's correct)

I'm sorry that I'm not smart enough or energetic enough to do some of this myself.

It really is not a significant problem; Opera 10.63 works OK under 214X on this computer; also I use the 10.54 version under Windows 98SE, because of some problem, supposedly fixable with a software called KernelEX (there were problems when I tried it, many months ago) or maybe by hex-editing the MS-Windows io.sys or whatever?

Not clear why loading an .sfs file at bootup is better than "installing" a .pet? Somehow I had the impression people thought it was better, which is why (I think) I did it that way on the newish netbook.

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#4110 Post by ttuuxxx »

Hi sheldonisaac I never use sfs for any single files,I always use pets, sfs are great for the main iso and well that's where it ends for myself, I even convert the devx to a pet and install it that way. There is no reason at all to use a sfs for a 9MB application, larger apps like OpenOffice ya sure.
sfs compress files better than pets, around 20% +, so its a savings, but when they are only 9MB, really it doesn't matter all that much.
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#4111 Post by Billtoo »

ttuuxxx wrote:Also has anyone else tried it yet? I did spend most of the day on it, a little feedback would be nice, lol
ttuuxxx
I installed the full version of Opera the other day and have been using that when I'm not using links.

I'm in your version now and it's working fine I think, it couldn't play videos at cnn until I downloaded the flash plugin from adobe and replaced the one in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins with the one that I downloaded which is 2 mb larger than the one that was in there.
They still don't play great on this pc but not too bad, youtube videos play fine.

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Opera 11.01 pet under 2.14X

#4112 Post by sheldonisaac »

ttuuxxx wrote:Hi sheldonisaac I never use sfs for any single files,I always use pets, sfs are great for the main iso and well that's where it ends for myself, I even convert the devx to a pet and install it that way. There is no reason at all to use a sfs for a 9MB application, larger apps like OpenOffice ya sure.
sfs compress files better than pets, around 20% +, so its a savings, but when they are only 9MB, really it doesn't matter all that much.
Many thanks, ttuuxxx; your Opera pet works!

I wrote more details, but erred and lost the message.

Will get back later today.

Thanks again!!!

Sheldon

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#4113 Post by ttuuxxx »

Thanks for the response guys, as flash goes, Mozilla and Opera are 2 different browsers and well yes probably you'll need two different flash locations or just flash itself versions, from what I've seen its ran pretty good
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can't get 214x-top6 to boot from frugal on amd64

#4114 Post by Sit Heel Speak »

Hello ttuuxxx,

I can't get 214x-top6 to boot, from a frugal install, on my Athlon64-x2. The live CD boots OK. Here is a screencap of how it fails. I have tried adding nosmp to the kernel line in menu.lst. Here is the boot line in menu.lst:

kernel /214x-top6/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda3 psubdir=214x-top6 root=/dev/ram0 nosmp

Any suggestions?

***edited next day: I succeeded in booting the frugal install by moving all the Puppy files to the top directory of the boot partition and using

kernel /vmlinuz ro pmedia=atahd pdev1=hda3 root=/dev/ram0

***

I notice that this frugal install of 214x-top6 will not read a savefile created by the live CD. Just a minute, I'll tell you if it will read a savefile created by itself...yep, it will. Too bad it picks up on another savefile, which *is* inside a psubdir...see posts below.
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Re: can't get 214x-top6 to boot from frugal on amd64

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EDIT: -
[color=green]Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GB, i82845, many ptns, modes 12, 13
Dual Xeon 3.2 GHz, 1 GB, nvidia quadro nvs 285[/color]
Slackos & 214X, ... and Q6xx
[color=darkred]Nämen, vaf....[/color] [color=green]ln -s /dev/null MHHP[/color]

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Re: can't get 214x-top6 to boot from frugal on amd64

#4116 Post by ttuuxxx »

Sit Heel Speak wrote:Hello ttuuxxx,

I can't get 214x-top6 to boot, from a frugal install, on my Athlon64-x2. The live CD boots OK. Here is a screencap of how it fails. I have tried adding nosmp to the kernel line in menu.lst. Here is the boot line in menu.lst:

kernel /214x-top6/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda3 psubdir=214x-top6 root=/dev/ram0 nosmp

Any suggestions?
It looks like your save files are located in a directory folder , move them to the top level outside of any directory folder. that should help. I don't usually do frugal installs but I think I recall that older puppies didn't like directory folder saves.
Should probably work on that.
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Re: can't get 214x-top6 to boot from frugal on amd64

#4117 Post by sheldonisaac »

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ttuuxxx wrote:
Sit Heel Speak wrote:Hello ttuuxxx,

I can't get 214x-top6 to boot, from a frugal install, on my Athlon64-x2.
This computer has an ASUS P5A motherboard and an AMD K6-2-450 processor, both from about 1999, I think.
I've never done other than frugal Puppy on this computer.
The live CD boots OK. Here is a screencap of how it fails.
I have tried adding nosmp to the kernel line in menu.lst. Here is the boot line in menu.lst:
kernel /214x-top6/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda3 psubdir=214x-top6 root=/dev/ram0 nosmp
I copied some of your kernel line parameters, will paste my latest at the bottom
It looks like your save files are located in a directory folder , move them to the top level outside of any directory folder. that should help. I don't usually do frugal installs but I think I recall that older puppies didn't like directory folder saves. Should probably work on that.
ttuuxxx
As I recall, it was only when I put the Puppy files in the root of the partition that 214X booted OK.

Haven't yet gotten it to work on the newish Acer Aspire One; maybe some what you two have said will help.

Thanks!

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kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=idehd pdev1=hda6 PUPSAVE=vfat,hda6,/pup_save-dec12.2fs nosmp

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#4118 Post by ttuuxxx »

man I wish puppy was made for more cpu types :) The 3 Sun Micro Systems blade 1500 I was given have sparc 64 cpu's in them, I just spent all weekend trying to find a workable Linux Os for it, most of them are confusing, like gentoo you have install/configure everything via the terminal, including networking, I managed to get about 80% of it installed, then I said ^#$%#$# lol try something else, I tried about 10 different ones, The best one was debian-6.0.0-sparc-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso but the xfce video resolution selector was complete crap it gave me a couple of selections, but wouldn't let me change drivers or monitor freq etc, funny things like puppy's xorgwizard is 2000000% better.
It doesn't come with a synaptic so I opened a terminal and typed su then the password
and then typed apt -get install synaptic and then I selected kde full, lol 567 extra packages to install and a additional 1206MB used on the hard drive, I figured why not, I can remove xfce, OpenOffice, and a few others and probably almost recover the 1.2gb I just installed. I'll let ya know how it goes :)

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214x on Acer Aspire One

#4119 Post by sheldonisaac »

sheldonisaac wrote: Haven't yet gotten it to work on the newish Acer Aspire One; maybe some of what you two have said will help.
I moved the Puppy files out of their directory to the root of the partition, and now Puppy 214X boots.
The built-in trackpad? works OK, but the USB mouse is so jerky as to be nearly useless.

I booted with pfix=ram, and chose xorg 800x600; would that have anything to do with the mouse problem?

Thanks, Sheldon

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#4120 Post by Sit Heel Speak »

sheldonisaac wrote:...I moved the Puppy files out of their directory to the root of the partition, and now Puppy 214X boots...
Aha, that was the magic trick--don't put the Puppy files in a subdirectory (a psubdir).

Also, change sda3 to hda3 in my pdev1 parameter of the kernel line, I'd forgotten that these older kernels use hda not sda.

I now have a frugal install of 214x-top6 running. At 1600 x 1200.

However...one oddity...it will not read the savefile which was created by the live CD.

Lemme see now if it will read the savefile which I will create upon shutdown of this boot...

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