Lucid Puppy 5.2 feedback and bug reports

[jinx100]

Ideas to try:
ISO of Lucid 5.2 is bad download. It does happen. Internet hiccup.
Use the Boot flash program to setup the flash drive.
Reformat and or partition flash drive.
Flash drive needs to be clean for install. Old files mixing with new install. Can cause problems.

That helped! I did download a new copy of Lucid 5.2 and now the flashing flash drive problem is cured.

Doesn't look like either version, 246 or 5.2, can create a valid flash drive without the ISO file. Both now try with the Universal Installer but the resulting drives will not boot - invalid boot drive. The partition boot flag is set but the ldlinux.sys file is missing and just adding it to the drive doesn't help.

Thanks for the good idea.

[stu90]

Try zigbert's updated PPM - i'm using it on Lucid 52 and it shows all 5 repos.

http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.p ... 1324268505

It is also included in the 'Puppy Control Panel Plus' bundle Playdayz packaged up in the Lucid thread.

http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.p ... 1324268505

[rjbrewer]

Ideas to try:
ISO of Lucid 5.2 is bad download. It does happen. Internet hiccup.
Use the Boot flash program to setup the flash drive.
Reformat and or partition flash drive.
Flash drive needs to be clean for install. Old files mixing with new install. Can cause problems.

That helped! I did download a new copy of Lucid 5.2 and now the flashing flash drive problem is cured.

Doesn't look like either version, 246 or 5.2, can create a valid flash drive without the ISO file. Both now try with the Universal Installer but the resulting drives will not boot - invalid boot drive. The partition boot flag is set but the ldlinux.sys file is missing and just adding it to the drive doesn't help.

Thanks for the good idea.

Use "bootflash" with the iso to install to usb;
should have the ldlinux file when finished.

[marco07]

I'm coming to believe to the title lengths of the repositries, or screen matrix (I use 1024x768). I am beginning to think it's actually there in the one line, just not being displayed as the box has a set size or is wrapping and therefore hidden.
Maybe something that needs it's own "bug" report in the Bugs section to be created and passed on to Barry for attention, if a code developer (maybe technosaurus or 01micko can advise) can't handle it which way to go.

regards
scsijon

I can definitely confirm this. Mine shows only 1 repository in the title line, no matter how many I select. Restarting of PPM would not help either.

[bigpup]

I'm coming to believe to the title lengths of the repositries, or screen matrix (I use 1024x768). I am beginning to think it's actually there in the one line, just not being displayed as the box has a set size or is wrapping and therefore hidden.
Maybe something that needs it's own "bug" report in the Bugs section to be created and passed on to Barry for attention, if a code developer (maybe technosaurus or 01micko can advise) can't handle it which way to go.

regards
scsijon

I can definitely confirm this. Mine shows only 1 repository in the title line, no matter how many I select. Restarting of PPM would not help either.

Are you updating data after selecting other repositories?

[gcmartin]

... Are you updating data after selecting other repositories?

This high-lights another area where if you dont know the correct procedure, we are bound to use it in-correctly.

Maybe time to publish a "PPM proper use" or a "Howto Properly Use PPM" procedure by someone knowlegible.

Hope this helps

[rjbrewer]

I really detest the new version of the ppm.

edit:

Figured out how to uninstall packages;
my "detestiness" has subsided.

[xman]

I tried Lupu-5.2 by live-cd, but it isn't for my old laptop . First boot led to kernel panic, second boot was slow but success. Then... everything is working, working, working... until Firefox or Opera freezes, and show is over. And they can freeze without significant load of many open tabs or heavy scripts. Firefox is rendering some pages better in Lupu than in Quirky or Wary, but anyway, I'm back on Q & W.

[666philb]

First of all thanks for lupu520, it's amazing, definately the best puppy i've tried so far!

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but when you install or de-install an sfs file, all the icons on the desktop reset themselves to the first-start default, usually all over my custom icons.

thanks for lupu!

666philb

[jinx100]

rjbrewer wrote:

Use "bootflash" with the iso to install to usb;
should have the ldlinux file when finished.

With a clean install that does work. Somehow it stopped working for me so I started from a fresh puppy 5.2 and made all my changes and it still worked. So I went back to a broken setup to see if it could be fixed. So, apologies to the knowledgeable readers, I hacked bootflash so it worked again. My theory is that formatting the partition after makebootfat erased the ldlinux.sys file. But then why would it ever work?

Here's the hacked version - simplified to a button panel with one button. Oops, I can't attach it and it's long for a post. Basically, I did not zeroize the first 512 bits of the drive or the partition - doesn't seem necessary and you'd need to write something back just to access the drive. Moved the makebootfat to just after the mkdosfs selection.

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 if [ $DRVSIZEM -gt 1024 ];then #1GB
  #set partition-id to fat32 (0b=fat32, oc=fat32-lba)...
  echo -e 't\n0b\nw' | fdisk /dev/$USBDRV
  mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/${USBDRV}1 #FAT32.  -n puppysave
 else
  #set partition-id to fat16 (06=fat16, 0e=fat16-lba)...
  echo -e 't\n06\nw' | fdisk /dev/$USBDRV
  mkdosfs -F 16 /dev/${USBDRV}1 #FAT16.  -n puppysave
 fi
 # cd /tmp/makebootfat
  makebootfat --output /dev/$USBDRV --syslinux3 --boot ldlinux.bss --mbr mbr.bin --copy ldlinux.sys tempdir
 sync
 syslinux /dev/${USBDRV}1

[bones01]

First of all thanks for lupu520, it's amazing, definately the best puppy i've tried so far!

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but when you install or de-install an sfs file, all the icons on the desktop reset themselves to the first-start default, usually all over my custom icons.

thanks for lupu!

666philb

philb, I've had the same issue, and it's not only with lupu520. However, having asked the question myself, I can direct you to the answer:

Found this today at http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 9&start=30

Could be the solution

This is when I go to change around desktop icons mate? If I should move them around the screen, or even delete some in favour of others - and then reboot - they'll be back, oft-times in their same places which will cause a real jumble upon the desktop space, see what I mean? Sometimes it'll remain fine for one or two reboots, then hit me on the 3rd or 4th. Sometimes as soon as the next. It's not predictable in other words.
"L'Peau-Rouge d'Acadie"

To correct this problem, arrange your icons like you want them, then goto /Choices/ROX-Filer and copy PuppyPin to PuppyPinMy. Then when you add an sfs or do anything else that changes the desktop simply copy PuppyPinMy to PuppyPin and restart X to restore your desktop.

Although it doesn't completely solve the problem, it does give you a very quick solution to return your desktop to the way you like it.

Bones

[666philb]

cheers bones!

philb, I've had the same issue, and it's not only with lupu520. However, having asked the question myself, I can direct you to the answer:

It's a hell of a lot better than having to delete/rename/ and customise icons again!

thanks for the solution.

666philb

[bigpup]

First of all thanks for lupu520, it's amazing, definately the best puppy i've tried so far!

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but when you install or de-install an sfs file, all the icons on the desktop reset themselves to the first-start default, usually all over my custom icons.

thanks for lupu!

666philb

This program may give you a quick recovery from such problems.
Desksetup
It has an option to save a custom setup and restore it.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 133#488133

Also comes in PupComboPlus from Lucid Puppy News in Quickpet.

[scsijon]

Hi,
Main Sat box crashed, after looking at it (and what I had loaded and unloaded) I decided it was time to put 5.2 on (has been 511 for a while).

It was a full install so took a bit of manipulation so not too loose things (basically move root, printout of user-installed-packages, check for other keep areas and move them, reformat partition so it is "clean", install fresh 5.2, install pets from u-i-p list, copy back only what was needed after new install from saved material, change profile files for ff to use/match your old bmarks etc., (if you haven't started eudora or thunderbird between install and copy backof .thunderbird directory you shouldn't have to do anything to those programs as they only create them on first run if not already there,) quickcheck programs all working, redo internet and firewall, and off you go. easy .

However, with 5.2 were using Openbox, not JWM.
QUESTION, how do I set it to hide the menubar in ob, I can't see where.

In the meantime i've gone back to jwm.

regards
scsijon

[bigpup]

However, with 5.2 were using Openbox, not JWM.
QUESTION, how do I set it to hide the menubar in ob, I can't see where.

In the meantime i've gone back to jwm.

In Openbox it uses Fbpanel to control the menubar.
menu->desktop->desktop settings->fbpanel configuration->main tab.
In Fbpanel configuration you must select OK on main tab for any setting changes to work.

[666philb]

This program may give you a quick recovery from such problems.
Desksetup
It has an option to save a custom setup and restore it.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 133#488133

thanks bigpup, i've downloaded it and it works well, i might also give that PupComboPlus a whirl.

cheers for that

666philb

[scsijon]

thanks bigpup.

[hudgrad]

my motherboard has VIA CN896/VT8237S chipset. my first install went well. but sometimes or somehow the sound is gone, but the soundcard itself is still normally detected by ALSA. is it a bug or something ??

[hudgrad]

sorry double post. connection problem.

[bigpup]

my motherboard has VIA CN896/VT8237S chipset. my first install went well. but sometimes or somehow the sound is gone, but the soundcard itself is still normally detected by ALSA. is it a bug or something ??

Right-click the speaker icon in the system tray and choose Full Window. Enable Master, PCM, Front and any others that seem likely and also turn up the volume in each. This should fix things a good percentage of the time. If not, then please try Menu -> Setup -> Alsa Sound Wizard.