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peebee

Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 913 Location: Malvern, Worcs, UK
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Posted: Thu 30 Dec 2010, 17:56 Post subject:
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| 01micko wrote: | As for the Agere module, I just did a pfind and it doesn't show up in 053, I believe that Barry couldn't get it to compile in later kernels. I'll look into it further.
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My sincere apologies - you are right - the modules were in spup051 or 052 and I had tried to force load them so they were in the spupsave and were still giving "loading" messages in 053 even though they were no longer present.
No wonder they didn't work!!! Please ignore my ramblings.
Cheers
Peter
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7019 Location: qld
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Posted: Thu 30 Dec 2010, 18:03 Post subject:
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Hi MHHP
Welcome to Woofdom!
How you ended up doing it is pretty much correct, however since there are no doc, dev, nls files uploaded for Firefox then you don't need that in the PKS_SPECS_TABLE variable, this will do:
If there is something there I don't want in the Packages-puppy-spup-unofficial file (or whichever one ) I normally just remove it, but hey, if commenting it works then why not?
EDIT: I'm pretty sure an exact match is needed, the older firefox has the capital F, so yes I think the capital distinction works yes|Firefox||exe
When there are doc, dev, nls files you must put an entry for those or else you end up with an empty package in the 2createpackages stage. Iguleder found that out the hard way, so we use his experience to our advantage
If you have any favourite or custom packages you want to share just post them here and I can upload to the brainwavescentral.net repo.
How did you find my crude instructions? I guess they are somewhat "good enough".. Anything you think I should change let me know.
Note: there is one bug in woof that I discovered by shear luck. In the neon package the symlink for the lib ends up in the DEV package... while (or after) 2createpackages is running you can move it to it's rightful place. It is shear fluke that I discovered this, there could be more packages that do that too. It is because slackware do not package libs with the symlink, it is created in a separate "doinst.sh" script on installation, much like a pinstall.sh. I guess a scan of the devx might find these missing symlinks, if any.
Edit: No, apparently it's not a bug but intended behaviour.. (and neon goes to dev anyway )... for some reason Barry has all plain *.so symlinks going to dev. It's in the 2createpackages script.
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Jim1911
Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 2353 Location: Texas, USA
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Posted: Thu 30 Dec 2010, 18:27 Post subject:
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Hi Mick,
If not for your policy of tracking each Woof update, it looks like a RC. Frugal installation looks solid, only problem is one that I reported earlier about not being able to use ppm to download vlc from the spup repository which is probably a typo.
If you are ready for another challenge, take a look at TazOC's LHP5.0 G. In particular the code that he's used to automatically detect an ext4 partition and generate a 4fs save file. It would be great if Barry would include that capability in Woof again.
Any success on the latest Amarok?
Happy New Year,
Jim
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7019 Location: qld
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Posted: Thu 30 Dec 2010, 18:40 Post subject:
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| Jim1911 wrote: | Hi Mick,
If not for your policy of tracking each Woof update, it looks like a RC. Frugal installation looks solid, only problem is one that I reported earlier about not being able to use ppm to download vlc from the spup repository which is probably a typo. | hmm.. I did fix that one! (vlc) Must have crept back in
| Jim1911 wrote: |
If you are ready for another challenge, take a look at TazOC's LHP5.0 G. In particular the code that he's used to automatically detect an ext4 partition and generate a 4fs save file. It would be great if Barry would include that capability in Woof again. | Sounds interesting.. I will certainly take a look.
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Any success on the latest Amarok? | No, .. seems something is always missing, but I have found a bug in woof that may be causing a bunch of multimedia issues, and other issues, I am trying to track it down and will inform Barry, it affects all woof builds as far as I can tell. It's to do with the missing symlinks I referred to in my previous post, you only have to mount any devx file by itself and go to /usr/lib to see it, bunch of stray symlinks
edit:well on looking at woof scripts it seems that it is the intended behaviour.. I just don't know why
Happy New Year
Cheers
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MinHundHettePerro

Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 831 Location: SE
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Posted: Thu 30 Dec 2010, 20:44 Post subject:
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| 01micko wrote: | When there are doc, dev, nls files you must put an entry for those or else you end up with an empty package in the 2createpackages stage. Iguleder found that out the hard way, so we use his experience to our advantage | Ok, for pup-developed packages, the files are (most likely) already split into exe, dev, doc, nls, but for a mother-distro package, can it all be contained in the one file? Should I, if not seeing any [dev, doc, nls]-packages accompanying the package file, still take the safe road specifying [|exe,dev,doc,nls] to ensure it is split up accordingly? Or, does the splitting follow the original splitting of the packages? .
| 01micko wrote: | How did you find my crude instructions? I guess they are somewhat "good enough".. Anything you think I should change let me know. | Oh, Ok, I'll tell ya . They were crude (much more refined than Bk's, though) and were just enough to tip me over the woofing barrier. So, thanx a bunch, your instructions really got me go woofing - still some experimenting to do, but I'm on my way .... (and, yes, they were good enough )
Cheers & Fanx /
MHHP
_________________ Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GiB RAM, i82845 graphics, many partitions, Pupmode 12 (13)
Mostly running Slacko & 214X
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Iguleder

Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1614 Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
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Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 03:24 Post subject:
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Hey 01micko, I compiled more goodies today. The former replaces xarchive, which is ancient, and the latter is a tool that creates the "Documents", "Music", "Videos", etc' directories all distros have. Haven't tested it, but it should refresh those once X starts, through the symlink in /root/Startup.
I'm also working on a coreutils package that replaces both the ancient coreutils (6.9 ) and deprecated mktemp all puppies have.
Then I want to write a browser installer, something similar to Quickpet's, but 100% generic and simple
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 04:13 Post subject:
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welcome back Iguleder , Yes I like also like xarchiver better than xarchive, but lately with all the extra wrappers that it has and other features like installing deb's, tar.gz slack packages, etc its pretty fine tuned setup, other than the crappy tar.bz2 extraction for large sources. below are the current supported formats, I do like fileroller better than both, but it uses gconf and spup doesn't have that. , most the time I like having all 3 installed, it bridges the gaps
ttuuxxx
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games

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Iguleder

Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1614 Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
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Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 04:35 Post subject:
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You're right, ttuuxxx, xarchiver has some advantages too
I tried to compile the old File Roller from Debian Lenny and it failed hard because it wants half of GNOME ... so Xarchiver is a good compromise.
And here's my new Coreutils PET, it replaces both Coreutils 6.9 from Puppy 4.x (so goddamn ancient!) and mktemp ... and it's threaded. I haven't tested it yet but it should work ... some executables are emotionally attached to libpthread, multi-core machines should enjoy this
And here's my brand new browser installer ... it needs my fetchpet in order to function.
Long live spup! This is so fun!
EDIT: stupid typo.
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 10720 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 04:41 Post subject:
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like your browser installer, simple yet effective.
ttuuxxx
_________________ http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games

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Brown Mouse

Joined: 09 Jun 2009 Posts: 435 Location: Tenerife Canary Islands
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Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 07:00 Post subject:
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I managed to break a couple of libs by installing Gimp 2.6.10 Lucid .pet.
Gimp 2.6.8 seems to work fine though.
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Iguleder

Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1614 Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
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Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 13:24 Post subject:
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Eek, the coreutils package broke xorgwizard and PPM. Rolling back to 6.9 ...
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MinHundHettePerro

Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 831 Location: SE
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Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 17:28 Post subject:
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Hello, all slack-woof gurus !
Yet, another noobish question:
suppose that I'd want to add Iguleder's spup repo (in addition to 01micko's) to a slack-woof build, and renaming the local db-file to Packages-puppy-spup-igu-official (Iguleder is moving so fast , so I'd like to add a spup identifier to the spup repo to distinguish it from any dpup/inpu/????-repo), would changing DISTRO_PET_REPOS like the following take care of the inclusion of his repo into my spup-builds? | Quote: | #PKG_DOCS_PET_REPOS
#where to download the pet pkgs databases from.
#first field is for testing the url.
#second field is full URI of the database file.
#third field is name of db file when local and after being processed into standard format
# (in the case of PET databases, the names are the same and no processing is required)
PKG_DOCS_PET_REPOS='ibiblio.org|http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/Packages-puppy-wary5-official|Packages-puppy-wary5-official ibiblio.org|http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/Packages-puppy-quirky-official|Packages-puppy-quirky-official ibiblio.org|http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/Packages-puppy-woof-official|Packages-puppy-woof-official ibiblio.org|http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/Packages-puppy-5-official|Packages-puppy-5-official ibiblio.org|http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/Packages-puppy-4-official|Packages-puppy-4-official ibiblio.org|http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/Packages-puppy-3-official|Packages-puppy-3-official ibiblio.org|http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/Packages-puppy-2-official|Packages-puppy-2-official ibiblio.org|http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/Packages-puppy-lucid-official|Packages-puppy-lucid-official brainwavedesigncentral.net|http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/micko01/stuff/puppy/spup/Packages-puppy-spup-unofficial|Packages-puppy-spup-unofficial brainwavedesigncentral.net|http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/dima/Packages-puppy-igu-official|Packages-puppy-spup-igu-official'
#PET_REPOS
#first field is for testing the url.
#second field is full URI of the repo
#third field is the name of db-file(s) associated with that repo. it may have glob wildcards.
# ex: Packages-puppy-4-official (note, url paths are in the database)
PET_REPOS='ibiblio.org|http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky|Packages-puppy-*-official ftp.nluug.nl|http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/quirky|Packages-puppy-*-official cc.gatech.edu|ftp://ftp.oss.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/quirky|Packages-puppy-*-official ibiblio.org|http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux|Packages-puppy-*-official ftp.nluug.nl|http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/distr/puppylinux|Packages-puppy-*-official ftp.linux.hr|ftp://ftp.linux.hr/puppylinux|Packages-puppy-*-official ftp.vcu.edu|ftp://ftp.vcu.edu/pub/gnu+linux/puppylinux|Packages-puppy-*-official ftp.tu-chemnitz.de|ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/.SAN0/pub/linux/sunsite.unc-mirror/distributions/puppylinux|Packages-puppy-*-official ftp.ussg.iu.edu|ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/puppylinux|Packages-puppy-*-official ftp.lug.udel.edu|ftp://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/puppylinux|Packages-puppy-*-official ftp.sh.cvut.cz|ftp://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/storage/1/puppy|Packages-puppy-*-official mirror.aarnet.edu.au|http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/puppylinux|Packages-puppy-*-official brainwavedesigncentral.net|http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/micko01/stuff/puppy/spup|Packages-puppy-spup-unofficial brainwavedesigncentral.net|http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/dima/pet_packages-igu|Packages-puppy-spup-igu-official'
#this defines where Woof looks first and second (and third, etc.) for pet pkgs
PACKAGELISTS_PET_ORDER='Packages-puppy-spup-unofficial Packages-puppy-spup-igu-official Packages-puppy-quirky-official Packages-puppy-woof-official Packages-puppy-4-official' |
Am I on the right track here, or am I sailing in the blue,
wonders MHHP, the woof-noob
_________________ Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GiB RAM, i82845 graphics, many partitions, Pupmode 12 (13)
Mostly running Slacko & 214X
Nämen, vaf.... ln -s /dev/null MHHP
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MinHundHettePerro

Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 831 Location: SE
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Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 17:50 Post subject:
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Yet, another noob question !
Background:
yesterday I was test-building a spup with openbox/obconf and found that obconf wouldn't work without some libxcb-* libs (I know I read something about it somewhen, somewhere, but cannot remember everything, can I ).
Today, I nicked the missing libs, and their symlinks, from a lupu install, made a .pet out of them and simply copied it into packages-pet and added it to Packages-puppy-spup-unofficial and included an entry for it in DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-slackware-13.1 after downloading files, but before building packages (guess I could've included the entries from the beginning and lived with the "Download-fails"-message).
Ok, it seems to work, still building the pup, though .
So, is there an easier/more proper way to include local .pets?
/wonders MHHP, the head-scratching, tinkering woof-noob .
_________________ Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GiB RAM, i82845 graphics, many partitions, Pupmode 12 (13)
Mostly running Slacko & 214X
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Iguleder

Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1614 Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
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Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 17:54 Post subject:
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| MinHundHettePerro wrote: | | suppose that I'd want to add Iguleder's spup repo) |
Take a look here. I uploaded the 3 Woof files I use to build my spups. I made DISTRO_PET_REPOS understand it's a spup: it adds 01micko's repo, then adds my repo
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MinHundHettePerro

Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 831 Location: SE
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Posted: Fri 31 Dec 2010, 18:09 Post subject:
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| Iguleder wrote: | | MinHundHettePerro wrote: | | suppose that I'd want to add Iguleder's spup repo) |
Take a look here. I uploaded the 3 Woof files I use to build my spups. I made DISTRO_PET_REPOS understand it's a spup: it adds 01micko's repo, then adds my repo  | Cheers, Iguleder, hadn't seen your gray-053 yet. - Resolves my whimsing about .
Thanx /
MHHP
_________________ Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GiB RAM, i82845 graphics, many partitions, Pupmode 12 (13)
Mostly running Slacko & 214X
Nämen, vaf.... ln -s /dev/null MHHP
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