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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 21:52    Post subject:  

Hi mick

Any reason why you chosen leafpad over beaver, is it because leafpad uses nls and beaver doesn't? as a basic text editor goes beaver does have a lot of very useful extras that leafpad doesn't have. Its really a lot better than leafpad. but without locales support. It a shame they don't introduce locales to beaver, it could almost replace Geany, heck Geany could go to the devX as defaulttexteditor and beaver could be the main Text editor. Well if you wanted some extra space.
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Stripe

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 21:52    Post subject:  

Thanks 01micko

on downloading now

Stripe
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 22:00    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Hi mick

Any reason why you chosen leafpad over beaver, is it because leafpad uses nls and beaver doesn't? as a basic text editor goes beaver does have a lot of very useful extras that leafpad doesn't have. Its really a lot better than leafpad. but without locales support. It a shame they don't introduce locales to beaver, it could almost replace Geany, heck Geany could go to the devX as defaulttexteditor and beaver could be the main Text editor. Well if you wanted some extra space.
ttuuxxx


Well it was a knee jerk really, nicoedit was segfaulting when making a pet.. you know, when the petspecs pop up...
Leafpad was handy so I used it. Now there is no reason not to use Beaver except locale issues, but nicoedit didn't have locales either. I suppose Beaver and geany could both be in... I'll think about it for next release.

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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 22:16    Post subject:  

Manual frugal install on the old P3 test box..... sound, internet and screen resolution were all working and correct on initial boot.
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Stripe

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 22:34    Post subject:  

Hi all

stripped gnome-player, mplayer and pmusic and pcdplayer out and installed vlc (for quality and it also plays more audio stream types)

stripped out seamonkey and installed icecat (for speed)

running in live mode (with the sfs set up for my liking)

Everything looks great

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec 2010, 01:20    Post subject: Just started exploring spup-053 --seems great
Subject description: How do you change color of task-bar, Menus?
 

Hi all,

Posting from Seamonkey on beautiful new spup-053. Sound and Internet without a hitch. But after changing wallpaper I wanted to use a different theme. Dialogue theme changed, but menus and "idle" task bar remain dark gray. Probably a newby question, but how do you change them?
Nevermind: So that's one of the things JWM configuration does.
I think I'll leave more exploration for the morrow. To sleep, perchance to dream.

Thanks, and mucho thanks 01micko for spups.

mikesLr

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec 2010, 02:13    Post subject:  

Just a little minor tweaking.........
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Billtoo

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec 2010, 10:14    Post subject: spup-053 built from latest woof
Subject description: flash drive install
 

I installed 053 to a flash drive using bootflash in lupu 517.
On first boot network,sound, and screen resolution are good.
I rebooted right away to create a save file.
Next bootup I installed the devx and ran the video upgrade wizard and
installed mesa dri as instructed.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slack Puppy, version 053

Chip description:
07:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416)
MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
# glxgears
2508 frames in 5.0 seconds = 501.463 FPS
2518 frames in 5.0 seconds = 503.450 FPS
2512 frames in 5.0 seconds = 502.229 FPS
2513 frames in 5.0 seconds = 502.510 FPS
2521 frames in 5.0 seconds = 504.086 FPS
#

Next I installed the nvidia pet as advised by the video upgrade wizard.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slack Puppy, version 053

Chip description:
07:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416)
MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
39455 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7891.000 FPS
51577 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10315.400 FPS
51594 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10318.800 FPS
51578 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10315.600 FPS
51565 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10313.000 FPS
#

That's it so far, working good.

I did another install of a sort, running in virtual box 4.0 from lupu 515.

edit:
I've been playing with virtual box 4.0 some more Smile
I did a full install of spup 053 to my 8gb virtual hard drive, gave
it 1 gb of ram,128mb video memory and 3D acceleration.I got sound
working too.
I tried to install VLC from the ppm but there were too many
dependencies, I did get VLC 1.06 working though with a pet that I
made in quirky 1.3 and a qt pet as well.
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Brown Mouse


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec 2010, 13:10    Post subject:  

Frugal install of 053.
All working perfectly so far.Thanks 01micko
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Stripe

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec 2010, 19:02    Post subject:  

hi all

053 is running great, (thanks mick), have given up on icecat/firefox for the time being as could not save bookmarks to sfs, (but seamonkey will)

current sfs size 121mb (including vlc) and running very quick

anybody have any ideas on quicker loading? (running in ram without save file)

cheers
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec 2010, 20:26    Post subject:  

Hi Stripe
Quote:
anybody have any ideas on quicker loading? (running in ram without save file)


Well have you edited the initrd.gz? There is a way to open with cpio, can't remember off hand, it's in the forum somewhere. Look for the stuff that searches the drives, especially usb, it slows down boot considerably. Sine you aren't saving anything then there's not much point in searching drives then, eh?

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I have just compiled ffmpeg out of svn.. and a very late model x264, which it needed. Will be uploading soon and it will be in the next version. Ffplay will be an add on, it requres SDL, which is in the spup repo. All the related SDL progs are there too, and DEV headers, enable dev checkbox and type 'SDL*' in the search box of PPM.

I'm not at all happy with gnome-mplayer.. the 1.00 version is in the repo, it is slightly better than the default version.

I am going to go through the tedious process of compiling xinelib, gxine, xine-ui to see if things can't be improved at a minimal byte cost. Might try again with ogle too, don't know yet.

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Stripe

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec 2010, 20:49    Post subject:  

Hi mick

I spent a good while looking for alternative media players for 431 and can only think of these two

smplayer is quite good but needs quite a few QT libs so its not small.

xfce player (I think thats what its called) is quite good, Jemimah has it in fluppy.

sorry I dont know enough to start stripping vlc

I have a "edinit" file that can open initrd.gz files so will give that a go.

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peebee


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Location: Malvern, Worcs, UK

PostPosted: Thu 30 Dec 2010, 06:23    Post subject: Which kernel?  

Hi 01micko

Been meaning to ask this for a while...

Post #1 says the spup kernel is k2.6.33.1 but

HardInfo and DISTRO_SPECS show k2.6.34.1....

Code:
#the kernel pet package used:
DISTRO_KERNEL_PET='linux_kernel-2.6.34.1-smp-1-s131.pet'


suspect? this is a typo on post #1??

Also while I'm posting - spup053 contains the Agere HDA modem modules which appear to load without errors but don't seem to actually work - can't find any diagnostics to send you to suggest why not. If you want to leave these in spup you may want to ask Barry/Richard what needs to be done to make them work. They work in wary500.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Dec 2010, 17:03    Post subject:  

Quote:
suspect? this is a typo on post #1??


Embarassed .. yes it is meant to say 2.6.34.1, slip of the flinger (fixed)

As for the Agere module, I just did a pfind and it doesn't show up in 053, I believe that Barry couldn't get it to compile in later kernels. Confused I'll look into it further.

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MinHundHettePerro


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Dec 2010, 17:43    Post subject:  

Hello Smile!

This spup-thing inspired me to finally start woofing about Smile.

So, I've been building a few slacky 13.1 wooflets over the past few days, trying to get the hang of woof (not completely there yet, but eventually ...... Shocked Wink).

In my latest attempt I wanted to build with FF-3.6.13 (no SM) and, still glancing at the woof-files at brainwavedesigncentral,
there are these lines in Packages-puppy-spup-unofficial
Code:

Firefox-3.6.12-spup|Firefox|3.6.12-spup||Internet|29896K||Firefox-3.6.12-spup.pet||Web Browser|slackware|13.1||
firefox-3.6.13|firefox|3.6.13||Internet|29936K||firefox-3.6.13.pet||Firefox web browser|slackware|13.1||

So, in DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-slackware-13.1 I tried with
Code:
yes|firefox-3.6.13||exe,dev,doc,nls
and
Code:
yes|firefox|3.6.13||exe,dev,doc,nls
, but neither resulted in a download of FF.

I eventually got it working through:
Packages-puppy-spup-unofficial
Code:
#Firefox-3.6.12-spup|Firefox|3.6.12-spup||Internet|29896K||Firefox-3.6.12-spup.pet||Web Browser|slackware|13.1||
firefox-3.6.13|firefox|3.6.13||Internet|29936K||firefox-3.6.13.pet||Firefox web browser|slackware|13.1||

and
DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-slackware-13.1
Code:
yes|firefox||exe,dev,doc,nls
.


Just wondering, is this how one is supposed to do it, or is there a better/more correct way to specify in DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-slackware-13.1 which version, out of several, of a program in Packages-puppy-* to select for download/inclusion.

Or, was it, in this case, just a matter of choosing firefox over Firefox?

Anyway, there could be instances of multiple versions of the same program in the mother-distro's repos, without the small/capital letter distinction Confused.

Just a woof-noob asking for advice Smile/
MHHP

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