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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 01:13    Post_subject: Re: Back again
Sub_title: -- Still testing
 

mikeslr wrote:
Hi again:

Rebooted creating 512 meg Save-File. Discovered that Save-File was automatically created in sPup052's folder. (See prior post re unpacking ISO). That's a nice feature. But as I hadn't known it would, I initially booted into sPup051, thinking I'd have to move Save-file from the top of the partition to the sPup052's folder.
While in sPup051 I decided to increase its, sPup051's, Save-file by 256 megs.
When I rebooted into sPup052, boot manager? ran thru its routine to increase sPup052's Save-file from 512 to 756. I'll reboot into sPup051 and see what happens.

Edit: Rebooted into sPup051. Its Save-File was not increased, remaining at 512 megs. I don't know enough about how resizing a Save-file works (perhaps I should mention I use Grub4Dos v.1.6.3 as the boot manager) but it appears that running two versions of sPup causes confusion.

mikesLr


When you use the utility to resize your save file,when you reboot whatever save file you use next will be the one resized.If you were using 051,resized the save file and rebooted into 052 that save file should have been enlarged.
If I'm incorrect somebody will correct me but that's my understanding of how it works.
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Brown Mouse


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Location: Tenerife Canary Islands

PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 06:48    Post_subject:  

Still no luck with Mesa.
I see this in a terminal when entering 'glxgears' # glxgears
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
#

It's odd because it works in 051.
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Stripe

Joined: 23 Jun 2010
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Location: In a field. England

PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 08:17    Post_subject:  

Hi all

just tried 052 on an old amd 800 mhz box (256mb sd ram) (full install) everything works great if a bit slow LOL, (apart from flash, but cant expect anything else with the chip)
Posting from it now.
cheers
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 10:46    Post_subject: Resizing Save-File -- Multi-Puppy Precaution
Sub_title: Dialogue should be clearer
 

Thank you James C:

You were right. When you click "Resize Personal Save-File" the SAVE FILE OF WHICHEVER PUPPY YOU NEXT BOOT INTO WILL BE THE ONE RESIZED..

There is, in fact, a warning in the dialogue which appears when you click "Resize Personal Save-File", but the warning is in the middle of the text and doesn't explain why you should reboot into the intended Puppy. And it is partially negated by the first sentence which identifies the Puppy you are in as the one you intend to increase.

In short, the instructions in the dialogue could be clearer.

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Iguleder


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Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert

PostPosted: Fri 24 Dec 2010, 14:44    Post_subject:  

Hey 01micko, I'm home after two weeks and I found some time to work on Pslackthing, teh Slackware package downloader.

New stuff:
- Lots of bug fixes
- A package blacklist
- Automatic (and FAST) detection of the installed packages and the option not to download installed packages (i.e just the extra dependencies you need to make the packages work); it uses DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS (either the one in /root/.packages or DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-slackware-$DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION in the Pslackthing directory, as with other Woof files). Wink
- More comments in the code
- More modularity and reusability in various parts of Pslackthing
- Other goodies

How to use it? It's simple. Edit pslackthingrc with a text editor, create a list of packages to download and save it as packages.txt.

Then, decide what side of the force you are on - run Pslackthing on a spup to make life easier or get DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS, DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS-slackware-13.1 and DISTRO_PET_REPOS-slackware-13.1. If you mess with Woof, you know what these are; just put them in the Pslackthing directory, like packages.txt.

Now you're done configuring it - just run 0setup and 1download. It's all automatic Smile

If you want to restore Pslackthing to its vanilla form, delete Packages-slackware-*, packages.txt and the packages directory. That's it.

This thing is getting better and better ... I'm still curious about reverse-engineering Woof's 2createpackages. This requires some serious work I guess Cool
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taca0

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Dec 2010, 23:08    Post_subject:  

Iguleader:

Make a version with this combination Xorg 1.9.2 from current slackware and kernel 2.6.36 like the slax remix v9 has??
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Dec 2010, 08:12    Post_subject:  

I have no intentions to harm spup's development, it's 01micko's baby Smile

At the moment I'm rebuilding 052 with micko's instructions, but with my own modifications - I replaced some applications and added goodies. PPM uses the spup repo but also has mine Cool

The most important feature is the automatic Opera installer (which replaces the Firefox installer I wrote). Also, there are many new packages in my repo: Seamonkey, a better Geany, Bluefish, nano_tiny, package_tools, advancecomp_cut, OptiPNG and much more. The Opera PET is just 9 MB and it's so goddamn fast! Very Happy

Here's what I did:
Code:
cat DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-slackware-13.1 | grep iguleder | sed s/"#iguleder: "//g


And here's the output, the full list of changes from 01micko's vanilla 052:
Quote:
added acpitool, needed by xbindkeys
added advancecomp_cut, needed by package_tools
added aumix, needed by volumeicon
moved bones exe to dev
removed ctorrent
added deadbeef, replaces pmusic
added dejavu_fonts
added fetchpet, needed by opera_installer
removed flashplayer10
added fotoxx
replaced gecko-mediaplayer with gecko_mediaplayer
removed gexec
added ghasher
replaced gnome-mplayer with gnome_mplayer
added grun, replaces gexec
removed gtk-chtheme
removed gtksourceview
added htop
added igucal, replaces minixcal
added leafpad, replaces nicoedit
added lxappearance, replaces gtk-chtheme
added lxrandr
added lxtask, replaces pprocess and needed by xbindkeys
removed minixcal
added nano_tiny
removed nicoedit
removed notecase
added opera_installer, replaces seamonkey and needs fetchpet
added optipng, needed by package_tools
added package_tools, needs advancecomp_cut and optipng
removed pctorrent
removed pmusic
added powertop
added ppower
removed pprocess
removed retrovol
removed seamonkey
removed seamonkey_addon_sqlite_manager
removed seamonkey_addon_zombie_keys
added sylpheed
added teh_gray_jwm_theme
added transmission, replaces pctorrent and ctorrent
added trinity_icon_theme
added uget
added volumeicon, replaces retrovol and needs any standalone mixer with /usr/local/bin/defaultaudiomixer
added xbindkeys, needs acpitool, mtpaint and lxtask
added xpad, replaces notecase
removed yaf_splash


While 2createpackages is running, I started working on linux_kernel-2.6.36.2-spup Wink

If I spot any serious bugs or blasts of creativity, I'll report ... got lots of nifty tricks up my sleeve Wink

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Dec 2010, 10:36    Post_subject:  

Glad you are OK Igu
after your holiday, care of the local militia Wink

Wonderful that you are using your time to improve our favourite canine
before returning to your camp site . . .

Have fun Smile

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Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Sat 25 Dec 2010, 13:52    Post_subject:  

Iguleder Hope your fine and life is grand, Take care
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Dec 2010, 14:04    Post_subject:  

Thanks, guys - I'm just fine. My body is all broken and physically I'm very tired, but mentally I'm very energetic as I'm building more stuff for spup Smile

I compiled 2.6.36.2 with BFS and more packages, including JWM 498 and htop, to make it more ... complete Smile

I also tried to compile WeeChat but it's still too big, weechat-curses is ~350 KB if I remember right and the gtk interface is just two text entries, not very friendly.

01micko: in Barry's zzz package, use "exe,dev,doc,nls", otherwise it produces errors - in my case I got an empty package. Also, Bones should be "exe>dev" to save a byte or two of RAM. Besides these problems 052 looks great so far.

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Dec 2010, 14:46    Post_subject:  

Iguleader:

How I use the linux_kernel-2.6.36.2-spup.pet with spup or igulpup001 but Frugal ??
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Dec 2010, 15:54    Post_subject:  

Just follow the wonderful instructions by 01micko and build your own spup, it's easy Smile

You can build it without having to modify Woof, that's what's so awesome about spup. I don't recommend you to use my kernel packages, since they're experimental and the next time I work on Puppy is next Friday probably Wink

I built a 052 with 2.6.36.2 and some of my modifications and it was kinda messed up, because I used "exe" instead of "exe,dev>null,doc>null,nls>null" for almost all the apps I packaged - they were missing but the Opera installer was there and worked. Now I'm re-processing them ... grrrrr.

EDIT: more problems! jwm 498's bidi didn't work for me and it has two annoying bugs - 4 workspaces instead of 2 and when you move a window to the top of the screen, it pops out of the bottom. I rolled back to the good 493.

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Dec 2010, 18:34    Post_subject:  

Iguleder wrote:

EDIT: more problems! jwm 498's bidi didn't work for me and it has two annoying bugs - 4 workspaces instead of 2 and when you move a window to the top of the screen, it pops out of the bottom. I rolled back to the good 493.


Ok ,bidi might be a problem but I can't fix that!

The other with the virtual desktops is a cool new feature! The syntax is changed a bit so the current tool for altering desktops is not working.

I asked zigbert if he wants to code a new tool. You can manually edit the file /root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal with the new syntax.
Code:
<!-- Number of virtual desktops -->
<Desktops width="3" height="2"/>
.. meaning you have 3 desktops wide and 2 high! (you can have 3 high and up to 5 wide, maybe more, but impractical Wink ) Now you can have many and not use the whole pager Laughing (see screeny)

Cheers Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 21:30    Post_subject:  

Ok folks, the latest spup is now uploading, won't be very long!

There are numerous changes for you to test/check out.

-the latest ROX from git
-the latest jwm as at 26 December
-many package updates
-fixed nvidia drivers (if you have older ones delete them and start fresh)
-much more stuff

It is built from woof 22 December but I understand Barry has the latest 29 December woof ready, oh well! I leave this out for at least a week before I update again!

There are delta files for the main iso and the devx.

See main Post


Cheers and enjoy!

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 21:49    Post_subject:  

Already burning a cd........................... Laughing
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