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Lupu-515 Beta New Version DEC 18
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Jades

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 16:35    Post subject:  
playdayz wrote:
Lupu-516 Beta 2 is now posted in its very own new forum thread.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=479987#479987


Will look in a bit, still trying to track down the version of Luci where it stopped creating working save fies on my K6. Luci-240 worked OK.
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Béèm


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 20:58    Post subject:  
peebee wrote:
playdayz wrote:
By default lupu does not use xorg.conf like other puppies. We are used to xorg.conf but ever since xorg 7.3 X can configure itself without xorg.conf. Lupu can do it both ways. To create a traditional xorg.cconf., just Menu -> Setup -> Personalize Settings and run xorgwizard. Or, exit to a prompt and run xorgwizard.


Thanks for the clarification playdayz - much appreciated.
I guess the question remains whether xvidtune is compatible with lupu's way of doing things as any changes it makes can't be made permanent? If it doesn't work should it be there? Is there another way to do display tweaks in lupu?

Cheers
Peter
Where does xorg 7.3 stores it's information then?
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 21:03    Post subject: Please a Support For v4l webcam
Subject description: Like Ubuntu		  
Hey, I was wondering if I could make a request... Its for the Package
libv4l-0 (for the /usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so)
So we can enable Webcam in Both Flash (Example For Meebo.com) and Skype Very Happy Also Microphone Support... (I know theres a Webcam app but I mean it for this command
Code:
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so firefox //  skype // chrome
And Stuff Like that)
Thats what enables Webcam for Flash in Ubuntu...
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tempestuous

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 00:01    Post subject:  
libv4l is available as a dotpet here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=469701#469701
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 09:01    Post subject:  
Beem,

Since I've tried a number of searches to find out where XOrg stores its autogenerated info and come up blank everytime I am led to the conclusion that it doesn't store them. It autogenerates at every boot up. If an xorg.conf is created anything in there will overwrite the auto generated stuff. Anything NOT in there will be autogenerated.

See here for more interesting info:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 09:07    Post subject: Xorg info  
You can see some info at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
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Lord_Solrac2

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 14:25    Post subject:  
tempestuous wrote:
libv4l is available as a dotpet here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=469701#469701
But thats my point.. Maybe people are having a proble finding it... (its not even in the repos)
EDIT: It didn't work... =.=
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 18:09    Post subject:  
ICPUG wrote:
Beem,

Since I've tried a number of searches to find out where XOrg stores its autogenerated info and come up blank everytime I am led to the conclusion that it doesn't store them. It autogenerates at every boot up. If an xorg.conf is created anything in there will overwrite the auto generated stuff. Anything NOT in there will be autogenerated.

See here for more interesting info:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html
hanks for the info.
And 7.4 seems to be worse.
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 18:24    Post subject: Re: Xorg info  
shinobar wrote:
You can see some info at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
Yes, interesting.
But as I understand, xorg.conf isn't used anymore, unless in puppy one goes through xorgwizard.
I didn't do that and as a test, edited xorg.conf (not knowing 7.3 acted differently) to define two keyboards, but I see in Xorg.0.log the modification I made is visible there.
Code:
(**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
(**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
(**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
(**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc102"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "be, us"
(**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "be, us"
(**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off"
(**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD)
In the beginning is stated
Code:
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Dec 23 19:43:23 2010
I am confused now.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Feb 2011, 17:58    Post subject:  
ttuuxxx wrote:
css vs tables, well this is kind of one of those things, some small puppy browsers don't use css, so those people would have an awful web page to look at, also tables are quick and easy, I don't really see any reason why not to use tables.
What do you mean "awful" the contents will just collapse. Maybe one might consider tables in complicated designs or maybe not. I can't real comment because I have no experience with the sort of complicated designs I am thinking of. How ever in this sort of design there is no excuse for not using tables.

If some one uses a older, limited, etc browser that's there decision. It should not hold back the use of improved standards. Anyway you will still be able to understand/see the content due too how HTML works.

I find CSS easier than tables.

Probably should add some more text to this post but I can't think of what to add.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Feb 2011, 18:27    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:
Perhaps you are able to finish the formatting and host this time, so I can not alter your well intentioned efforts. Smile
I did not want to cause sadness.

Lobster wrote:
I was happy with the original site, perhaps my standards are too low.
I guess so Very Happy.

Lobster wrote:
Just not interested in spending the time. Maybe you are.
Now there is a problem. I create web-pages a lot quicker (Well maybe not quicker Laughing.) and easily after leaning what I now know. I do have to use a lot of will power to get these things done, to high standards but it's worth it.

Lobster wrote:
Maybe given a few weeks I could do better . . .

and show us how a web site created by an expert looks. Smile

I am not a expert. I have read a small amount of stuff. I have read the book (Though not all the info on individual tags.) "Website Design In A Nut Shell" and read the tutorials on http://www.w3schools.com/ and the odd article. My current knowledge is just HTML and CSS. No scripting.

Lobster wrote:
I will leave our joint effort as is.
Oh no Sad. I do not want to quit yet. I thought we did rather well. You decided on the design and content and I tweak it and made it standard compliant.
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Feb 2011, 05:29    Post subject:  
I haven't followed this thread and I'm in a hurry right now so I'll just add my two cents in the context I regard it based on the last two posts...

There's nothing you can't do with divs and css but you can do with tables. There are many things you can't do with tables and you can do with divs and css. For complex design you can use a combo of the two but it's not advized. You can do anything just with divs and css. It's very powerfull, plus it's how standards are set for a long time now. Tables are for tabular data display only, styled containers/elements are for styling.
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Feb 2011, 09:17    Post subject:  
acrocosm wrote:
I haven't followed this thread and I'm in a hurry right now so I'll just add my two cents in the context I regard it based on the last two posts...

There's nothing you can't do with divs and css but you can do with tables. There are many things you can't do with tables and you can do with divs and css. For complex design you can use a combo of the two but it's not advized. You can do anything just with divs and css. It's very powerfull, plus it's how standards are set for a long time now. Tables are for tabular data display only, styled containers/elements are for styling.
Thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 03:56    Post subject:  
Possibly more options to change the colours in the calendar, but apart from that I'm very happy with Osmo. It has a full range of features (including a date calculator, which I use a lot) and works well.
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