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Master_wrong

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Dec 2010, 00:48    Post_subject:  HOWTO Puppy supercomputer !!!  

http://www.petur.eu./

i got pdf about supercomputer from above site few month, now i try to apply to puppy knowing that puppy has significant speed advantage over ubuntuy.
i try to apply, but always has error, regarding port...
(.deb package is not working, get the slackware instead on page 2)

is anyone know how apply this to puppy ?

thank

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Dec 2010, 02:05    Post_subject:  

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is anyone know how apply this to puppy ?


You need mad geniuses who like nothing better than
turning a glut of clutter into a Turing Cluster

This seems a worthy project as we can have
a thread 'my cluster is faster than yours'
and 'my cluster has more nodes than yours'

. . . now it is true we can join internet clusters
but to have a supercomputer in ones basement
computing the emergence of time anomalies
- sounds essential to me . . .

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Dec 2010, 08:01    Post_subject:  

Quote:

You need mad geniuses who like nothing better than
turning a glut of clutter into a Turing Cluster


no, its not, the pdf was straightforward easy to follow.
its setting the port or python in puppy confuse me.

Quote:

This seems a worthy project as we can have
a thread 'my cluster is faster than yours'
ans 'my cluster has more nodes than yours'


thank you.

Quote:

. . . now it is true we can join internet clusters
but to have a supercomputer in ones basement
computing the emergence of time anomalies
- sounds essential to me . . .


errrr.....

i was thinking about lesser goal, to understand more about supercomputing.
anyway thanks for your comment.


BTW :
I found what is wrong, for root, mpd.conf shoud be in /etc instead of home.

mpdboot now run without problem.

mpdtrace still has problem, i need to put password into mpd.conf, how i put password for puppy ?
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Dec 2010, 05:54    Post_subject:  

DONE !

here is the step needed

1. install package
2. install tinylogin.pet (http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet_packages-2/)
3. edit /etc/hosts on each computer attached according to its address
sample:
from
127.0.0.1 localhost puppypc
192.168.1.1 pc2
192.168.1.2 pc3
192.168.1.3 pc4
to
127.0.0.1 localhost puppypc
10.0.2.15 superwoof1 -------------->set according to computer
192.168.1.1 pc2
192.168.1.2 pc3
192.168.1.3 pc4

4. create /home
5. run terminal type
tinylogin adduser superwoof
password
password

6. inside /home/superwoof ---->create mpd.host(list of all computer attached----> address:processor ----> 10.0.2.15:1 )
7. inside /home/superwoof ---->create .mpd.conf (secretword=password)
8. set user of .mpd.conf ---->type in terminal : chown superwoof .mpd.conf also make only user can open it from properties
9. inside /home/superwoof ---->create /home/superwoof/bin ---->for program, set path too
10. in terminal type
login superwoof
mpdboot
mpdtrace
mpdrun
mpdallexit


have a nice day...
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Dec 2010, 07:05    Post_subject:  

Well done Master_wrong Smile
I am not 100% sure what we can do now . . .
Any plans?

Congratulations, very cool.

Who has 5/6 computers to create a supercomputer?
Let us know how you get on Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Dec 2010, 07:24    Post_subject:  

Thank lobster
Very Happy

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I am not 100% sure what we can do now . . .
Any plans?


let me see....
wait...wait i see somethin...

designing new nuclear warhead ? Laughing


btw i'm still trying to keep my /home folder after remaster, it seem they were not copied into new iso.

perhaps i should create my puplet...

superwoof, cluster puppy ?

Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Dec 2010, 08:55    Post_subject:  

Go for it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KfbizHyGsE

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 06:06    Post_subject:  

ok,

i just want to clarify...

puppy didnt have sshd installed, and the ssh in the package is wrong, cannot use it.

btw i already try installing sshd, set using root and try for real, it is running now.

see there is 2 cluster
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 14:56    Post_subject:  

Lobster wrote:
Go for it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KfbizHyGsE


I love it!...

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 17:04    Post_subject: Suggest an application for your SuperComputer  

@Master_wrong. I have read much over the years about Clusters from an architectural standpoint. All seems within reason, architecturally.

My missing understanding is in how it manages, dispatches, and then displays workloads. This comes from my base where I come from an Multi-Processor (MP) world with a single OS into a cluster world from an application(s) standpoint. MPs such as Intel/AMD/PowerPC etc sit within a single frame where the bus in integrated for the MPs operation.

Where I get a little tussle is when trying to describe to a Windows/X-desktop user, how work is accomplished in a disparate configuration. Maybe you can help by describing
  • whether the cluster console is or can be an X-windows desktop session?
  • Whether X-windows Linux applications are currently designed for cluster environments?
  • Whether Puppy OS "sees" all processors in such a way that if I ran TOP (the application) it would report/manage "all combined tasks" running across the cluster?
  • And, finally, can I run a multiuser X-windows sessions on a cluster system for as many users as I have logging in?
Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on these for me.
P.S. Recognizing that the answers might take up a lot of space in this post, you are welcome to PM me with the answers

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 21:05    Post_subject:  

@gcmartin

thanks for asking me, i didnt know myself, all i did was read pdf for ubuntu which i try to do in puppy linux.
but i can answer some of your question

- whether the cluster console is or can be an X-windows desktop session?
sorry i have no idea
- Whether X-windows Linux applications are currently designed for cluster environments?
not all but yes, dvd::rip is gui and can use cluster, but very few gui application have cluster capabilities [url] http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/doc/cluster.cipp[/url]
- Whether Puppy OS "sees" all processors in such a way that if I ran TOP (the application) it would report/manage "all combined tasks" running across the cluster?
i wonder that too
- And, finally, can I run a multiuser X-windows sessions on a cluster system for as many users as I have logging in?
the point of cluster is using networked computer to assist doing 1 task on the server, the idea is if 1 task is done 1 hour with 1 computer then i can be done 0.5 hour with 2 computer, 0.25 hour with 4 computer. etc
for your question... i dont know

the problem is i got too excited last night and run remaster before closing cluster which makes the remaster fail. so i have to do it all over again.... grrrrr

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 13:02    Post_subject:  

Finally i can remaster...
i will set my puplet soon

sshd i used is found here,
Quote:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=12414


on first post.
after all files installed

then only thing important is setting
/etc/hosts
/etc/mpd.conf ---->for user root
/home/user/mpd.hosts
/home/user/.mpd.conf ---->for user non root

as mpd has strict rules:
1. all .conf files in all computer has to be private only file (rw access only to owner)
2. setting address inside /etc/hosts and mpd.hosts files in all computer has to be arranged similiar :
address:nameserver
address:node1
address:node2

if any of them is not correct you will get error 415, 407, 420, and headache because sometimes you cannot trace error.

btw:
Whether Puppy OS "sees" all processors in such a way that if I ran TOP (the application) it would report/manage "all combined tasks" running across the cluster?

YES,memory was doubled too, interesting...
but it stay that way even after i disconnect, maybe false report

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 13:47    Post_subject:  

I have 4 computers at home 5 if i count the 386 they gave me in for my work... I wanna try try try! uhmm.. what can i do with it ?

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 17:23    Post_subject:  

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uhmm.. what can i do with it ?

That's what was in my mind, and surely it's the point?

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 18:25    Post_subject:  

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One of the exciting Puppy places is pioneering and leading edge. Docs and pics and stories of your setup and experience are always of great interest. Smile What will you call your first Puppy Supercomputer? Will you put a Puppy sticker on each node. How many nodes do you need to appear on this list? http://www.top500.org/ You might start with the worlds smallest supercomputer but what will you inspire . . . Very Happy

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