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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 08:56    Post subject:  

Bert wrote:
playdayz wrote:
jpeps and bert,
Could you install this pet of gnumeric and see what happens--it gets further than 1.10.8, that's for sure, at least for me.
http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/gnumeric-1.10.12-Lucid.pet
And others, please test this gnumeric pet if you could. Thank you.


Gnumeric 1.10.12 is healthy. Smile
Thanks!

yes but I downloaded that link posted above and its a repackage of debian packages, the plugins have the all the dev files, still has the man packages and about 50% documents are debian related documents not actual gnumeric, plus being a debian gnumeric it would be around 30% larger than need be. It uses extra libs that add extra deps. If playdayz is serous that he still would like a few extra KB this wouldn't be the way to go around doing this.
I'll see what I can do.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 10:57    Post subject: minor issues  

Minor issues:

First: Gnumeric working with new pet.

Would you please find and set the spell check on by default in Abiword, been off the last few versions.

Also please add geweled, small and a good time waster Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 11:28    Post subject:  

Here's a Gnumeric I compiled on luci, its 1MB less extracted than the previous posted above. I removed the a few deps that puppy 4 series didn't need to run gnumeric and from what I've seen it works fine. Actually its a bit smaller and newer than the quirky version which is always nice to see Smile
you need all three apps to run it, It replaces 3 apps in Luci.
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Luci-Upup/Gnumeric/main/libgsf-1.14.18-i386.pet
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Luci-Upup/Gnumeric/main/goffice-0.8.12-i386.pet
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Luci-Upup/Gnumeric/main/gnumeric-1.10.12-i386.pet

Next if you want any of the dev,locales,doc's they all can be found in this folder http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Luci-Upup/Gnumeric/others/
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 11:34    Post subject:  

Make sure the new libgsf doesn't break stuff - I compiled the latest wv/libgsf/goffice on spup and Abiword failed to compile. Some stuff that depend on libgsf show errors.

The older gtk could be the reason, though Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 11:45    Post subject:  

Iguleder wrote:
Make sure the new libgsf doesn't break stuff - I compiled the latest wv/libgsf/goffice on spup and Abiword failed to compile. Some stuff that depend on libgsf show errors.

The older gtk could be the reason, though Crying or Very sad

abiword still works, because its the same model number just a slightly newer version lld abiword ---> libgsf-1.so.114 => /usr/lib/libgsf-1.so.114

luci version libgsf-1.so.114.0.16
new version libgsf-1.so.114.0.18

should be 100% ok, I tested abiword before uploading the packages and it worked just fine.
If anyone wants me to compile abiword without Goffice just ask.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 12:08    Post subject:  

I've been looking at the compressed sizes
Luci ubuntu goffice 1.4MB
my goffice 817kb

gnumeric-1.10.1-lupu 7.7MB
my gnumeric 2.298MB

libgsf-1-114_1.14.16 151kb
my libgsf-1-114_1.14.18 103kb

total
Ubuntu/puppy repo 9.251MB compressed
traditional puppy way without extra deps, doc's 3.218MB
6MB compressed saving compared to what was in Luci 238, when I check the actual installed packages list.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 12:14    Post subject:  

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6MB compressed saving compared to what was in Luci 238
Thumbs up Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 12:31    Post subject:  

I just check how long I've been running luci 238 straight lol 18 days 2hours 17mins without a crash or reboot, I started with a 12GB pupsave and now its down to 3GB due to all the compiling etc. Probably have to remake a new pupsave tomorrow before I run out.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 12:33    Post subject:  

Been looking at GL games, you need to have an accelerated graphic card (ask Santa) and download the driver in Quickpet Laughing

My favourite which was working well is Gridwars 2
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=441449&search_id=47270692#441449

Then I tried
http://www.planeshift.it/

Beware - free game but without broadband - well it is over 400MB
and I had to register, update and create a character with their suggested name, then there was a tutorial - I could have been there for ever . . .
Great for Christmas fantasy no doubt . . .
I got it working - you could too

As we are releasing for Christmas do we need more games?
What is working?

Next stop? . . . The Realm of Mystara
http://secondlife.com/destination/the-realm-of-mystara

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 13:04    Post subject: Lucid 244 run action issue  

Lucid 244 run action issue

When clicking on a file and no run action is specified an error message was issued to go to set run action.
This was so up to Lucid 243.
Now in Lucid 244 when no run action is available for a file type, this error message isn't issued anymore and the search why this happens started.
Noobies might not have the reflex to see if a run action is specified and will be kinda lost.

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 13:24    Post subject: Save Feature
Subject description: To save or not to save
 

A feature I myself (and I'm sure many others) would like to see in Puppy...

After the first run of Puppy, when shutting down, you are asked If You Want To Save This Session then... To CD or To HD or NOT To Save. This feature would be nice to include in "Every Session" thereafter just before shutdown. It shouldn't take up much space since the commands are already in place for Puppy?

Lots of times you just do research on the net, maybe play a few online games or something than doesn't require a "session save" so why use up space with all those unnecessary save session files? If not feasible, maybe at least a Save or Not Save for the CD function to save space?

If not possible for 5.2 maybe a future version!
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 13:46    Post subject:  

I'll second that. I often load it up to try something, only to decide I don't want it kept.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 13:54    Post subject:  

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Lots of times you just do research on the net, maybe play a few online games or something than doesn't require a "session save" so why use up space with all those unnecessary save session files? If not feasible, maybe at least a Save or Not Save for the CD function to save space?

This is why you want two frugal installs - a stable version and a testing version.

It's easy to set up. Put each in its own folder and modify your GRUB menu.lst accordingly.

Or are you talking about a multi-session CD?
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 14:16    Post subject:  

Any session.
I often don't know that I don't want to save the session when I start it.
It doesn't have to be an asked question every time, but the option to leave without saving should be there.

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 14:27    Post subject:  

Here's a version of abiword that works with/without Goffice and dictionary is turned on by default. I added most used plugins, kind of like like Barry used to do, to keep the overall size down.
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Luci-Upup/Abiword/No-Goffice/abiword-2.8.6-noGoffice-i386.pet
Here's the rest of plugins
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Luci-Upup/Abiword/No-Goffice/abiword-2.8.6-ExtraPlugins-i386.pet
and here are some of locale extra parts that usually get disregarded
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Luci-Upup/Abiword/No-Goffice/abiword-2.8.6-NLS-i386.pet

Here's the difference of installed size
abiword-2.8.6-lupu| 22.092MB
my abiword 9.668MB
or around 12.5MB less installed
ttuuxxx
Ps if you move Gnumeric to the repo with Goffice this will still work. and save you about 3.1MB compressed.

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