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shinobar


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 10:37    Post subject: Re: Direct desktop with Xorg on Puppy-4.x  

Hi, sc0ttman.
Code:
/usr/bin/firstrun: line 206: locale_name: command not found
It is a bug, but not serious.
Color depth maybe a bug. I can hopefully fix.

Locale issue: humm... not easy.
Basically, Puppy-4.2x does not support unicode,utf8/UTF-8.
Its native support is only English. Others are downloaded from the net.
But excepting some Europeans, they require unicode. So the locale support of the Puppy-4.2x is halfway.

English locales should work. And some European may work.
I tried test, but unfortunately, Puppy-4.2.1 is unstable with my hardware, may be the graphic driver does not fit with my NVIDIA 8800GTX. Sad

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 12:13    Post subject: Re: Direct desktop with Xorg on Puppy-4.x  

Thanks for the reply...

my problems in summary:

1. firstrun works perfect first time Smile
2. but locale changes not detected or applied after that
3. colour depth change requires change in X server
4. pmount still fails after firstun is used (except from terminal)


I do not need all of these fixed. But I would like:

1. Firstrun to show correct locale after it is changed from en_US
2. Firstrun to allow change of colour depth, without change of X server

I will try to do this myself, but I may find myself back here! Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Dec 2010, 06:56    Post subject: quicksetup-1.1-p4-xvesa.pet  

Found bugs with xvesa support on the last version.
And the last version did not support Puppy4.2x.

Try quicksetup-1.1-p4-xvesa.pet. See the top of this topic.
Note the UTF-8 support on Puppy-4.2x is another issue.

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 09:51    Post subject: Re: quicksetup-1.1-p4-xvesa.pet  

shinobar wrote:
Found bugs with xvesa support on the last version.
And the last version did not support Puppy4.2x.

Try quicksetup-1.1-p4-xvesa.pet. See the top of this topic.
Note the UTF-8 support on Puppy-4.2x is another issue.

Hi shinobar, I installed quicketup-1.1 on a 4.2 system..

I also installed rc_country-20101201.pet

After remaster and reboot, I found no issues Very Happy

The resolution and X server changes worked, straight to 24bit..
(I was not given the option to change 16 or 24bit first time)

Locale changes worked, and were remembered by firstrun, it always shows the correct locale now Smile

The next time I ran it, from the 'Personalize Settings' menu item, I was also given the option of changing between 16 and 24bit Smile

I changed only this option and the change was detected and applied correctly.

So, in summary, all changes worked, and all changes were detected the next time I ran firstun.

Good work Very Happy

1 question though, what exactly does the new rc_country-20101201.pet file fix?

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 10:14    Post subject: Re: quicksetup-1.1-p4-xvesa.pet  

sc0ttman wrote:
After remaster and reboot, I found no issues Very Happy

Thanks for the test. I am glad to hear that.

sc0ttman wrote:
what exactly does the new rc_country-20101201.pet file fix?

The rc_country-20101201 is not essencial for this case.
It supports 3 things:
  1. Allows both '*.UTF-8' and '*.utf8' for the locale name. ...But Puppy-4.2x basically does not support UTF-8.
  2. Use /usr/sbin/keymap-set contained in the quicksetup or the 'Personalize settings', supports jp(Japanese) and br(Brasilian) keyboards.
  3. Asks only the keymap when booted with 'pfix=nox'... works with the modified /etc/profile contained in the quicksetup. But i am not sure it was implemented. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 10:53    Post subject: Re: quicksetup-1.1-p4-xvesa.pet  

shinobar wrote:
sc0ttman wrote:
After remaster and reboot, I found no issues Very Happy

Thanks for the test. I am glad to hear that.

sc0ttman wrote:
what exactly does the new rc_country-20101201.pet file fix?

The rc_country-20101201 is not essencial for this case.
It supports 3 things:
  1. Allows both '*.UTF-8' and '*.utf8' for the locale name. ...But Puppy-4.2x basically does not support UTF-8.
  2. Use /usr/sbin/keymap-set contained in the quicksetup or the 'Personalize settings', supports jp(Japanese) and br(Brasilian) keyboards.
  3. Asks only the keymap when booted with 'pfix=nox'... works with the modified /etc/profile contained in the quicksetup. But i am not sure it was implemented. Wink

Thanks for the info... Just one very quick question, it is probably nothing more than my ignorance..

EDIT:

I looked at the new /etc/profile and saw something ...
Is this correct:

Code:
if [ ! which X &>/dev/null;then


Or this is this better:

Code:
if [ ! `which X` &>/dev/null ];then


ANOTHER EDIT:

Also, in /usr/bin/firstrun:

Code:
line 654:    [ -e /usr/bin/Xvesa ] && ln -sf Xvesa /usr/bin/X


Should it be:

Code:
line 654:    [ -e `which Xvesa` ] && ln -sf Xvesa "${XPATH}"


or maybe:

Code:
line 654:    [ "$HAS_XVESA" = "yes" ] && ln -sf Xvesa "${XPATH}"


Sorry if I am wrong, I know it all appears to work, but I want to be certain...

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 04:53    Post subject: Re: quicksetup-1.1-p4-xvesa.pet  

sc0ttman wrote:
is this better:
Code:
if [ ! `which X` &>/dev/null ];then

Should it be:
Code:
line 654:    [ "$HAS_XVESA" = "yes" ] && ln -sf Xvesa "${XPATH}"


Both your are correct.
Thanks. Wink

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 06:53    Post subject: Re: quicksetup-1.1-p4-xvesa.pet  

shinobar wrote:
sc0ttman wrote:
is this better:
Code:
if [ ! `which X` &>/dev/null ];then

Should it be:
Code:
line 654:    [ "$HAS_XVESA" = "yes" ] && ln -sf Xvesa "${XPATH}"


Both your are correct.
Thanks. Wink

You're welcome... Thanks for all your hard work..
You've helped improve my puplet so much.. Much appreciated Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Dec 2010, 22:04    Post subject: X-server version 1.7.x  

Direct to the graphical desktop for the Puppy without Xvesa, you can see an example in LupQ. You can apply the same thing if the Puppy has the X-server version 1.7.x.
Type 'Xorg -version' in a virtual terminal.

The key file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf1, which you can extract from LupQ-511. Copy the etc/X11/xorg.conf1 to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
And you need to modify the /usr/bin/xwin. You can extract xwin from LupQ-511, or you can insert a line in the usual xwin.
See the comment in the /usr/bin/xwin of the LupQ-511.
Quote:
# 30jul10 shinobar: accept current xorg.conf if it does not contain hardware profile

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 03:34    Post subject:  

Thanks shinobar

I got it working thanks Razz Razz Razz

now I can switch between machines with my usb stick and keep my locale settings, but the resolution now sets itself.

well done on another great application Wink

thanks again
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 04:37    Post subject: portable puppy  

Stripe wrote:
I got it working thanks Razz Razz Razz

now I can switch between machines with my usb stick and keep my locale settings, but the resolution now sets itself.

well done on another great application Wink

Thanks, i am glad to hear that. Very Happy
It must be a break through with portable puppy.

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 05:52    Post subject:  

Hi shinobar

I had to copy the loadkeymap and fontmap files over as well to get rid of error messages when loading

hope this is of some use
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Dec 2010, 20:05    Post subject: Next version of QuickSET  

@Shinobar. Happy Holidays.
  1. Will the next version of QuickSET include the changes that @Stripe and you came up with?
  2. And, does this or sould this extend to LiveDVD?
It would be nice to have a LiveDVD that I can go from machine to machine with. (There are even greater possibilities as I look to PXE booting in 2011.)

QuickSET is really futuristic. Thanks for your creative work. Looking forward to your next incarnation.

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