Installing Puppy - Which file system to use? Fat32 or ext2/3
- Sky Aisling
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Installing Puppy - Which file system to use? Fat32 or ext2/3
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I am installing Puppy 4.3.1. to an internal hard drive on a Toshiba Satellite 2805-S401 with 256mg RAM and 20 gig hdd.
Currently, a MSOS (me) resides on the drive. I want the MSOS to be erased permanently.
When I follow the install instructions provided from Puppy's desktop screen, this message is offered in GParted when I go to format the HDD:
"Regarding 'ntfs' or 'vfat' of course do not change these to ext2 or ext3 if the partition has Windows or DOS installed on it!"
But... I want to erase Windows completely, forever. Shouldn't I choose ext2 or ext3 as the file system for Puppy?
Thank you for your timely reply.
PS Yes, I want to do a install to a hard drive. See discussion:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62493
I am installing Puppy 4.3.1. to an internal hard drive on a Toshiba Satellite 2805-S401 with 256mg RAM and 20 gig hdd.
Currently, a MSOS (me) resides on the drive. I want the MSOS to be erased permanently.
When I follow the install instructions provided from Puppy's desktop screen, this message is offered in GParted when I go to format the HDD:
"Regarding 'ntfs' or 'vfat' of course do not change these to ext2 or ext3 if the partition has Windows or DOS installed on it!"
But... I want to erase Windows completely, forever. Shouldn't I choose ext2 or ext3 as the file system for Puppy?
Thank you for your timely reply.
PS Yes, I want to do a install to a hard drive. See discussion:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62493
Last edited by Sky Aisling on Thu 11 Aug 2011, 05:30, edited 2 times in total.
Sky Aisling
COMPAQ Presario 1200 circa 2000
Processor: Celeron (Coppermine)
RAM:Less than 200 mg Total Size of machine 4 gb
Puppy 4.2.1 Running Like A Champ!
COMPAQ Presario 1200 circa 2000
Processor: Celeron (Coppermine)
RAM:Less than 200 mg Total Size of machine 4 gb
Puppy 4.2.1 Running Like A Champ!
If you're installing to the hard drive and want to boot it, you'll need
ext2 or ext3; {which has journalling and is a little more stable)
Delete the windows partition first.
A good install method for low ram computers:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 782#201565
ext2 or ext3; {which has journalling and is a little more stable)
Delete the windows partition first.
A good install method for low ram computers:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 782#201565
Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs
- RetroTechGuy
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Re: Installing Puppy - Which file system to use? Fat32 or ext2/3
How about rcrsn51's instructions:Sky Aisling wrote:PS Yes, I want to do a install to a hard drive. See discussion:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62493
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876
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Give Puppy enough playground
See also Enrich 'Frugal' instead of doing full install:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62476
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62476
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Like rjbrewer says, go for ext2 or ext3. the ext3 filesystem takes up more space but is more stable than ext2.
rj will advise you to do Full install and i will say do Frugal.
You could do a Full Install to one ext3 partition (sda1) and do a Frugal in a second ext3 partition (sda2), with Grub giving you the choice of which to use at Bootup.
Then you can run both types of install for a while and see which one works best for you.
rj will advise you to do Full install and i will say do Frugal.
You could do a Full Install to one ext3 partition (sda1) and do a Frugal in a second ext3 partition (sda2), with Grub giving you the choice of which to use at Bootup.
Then you can run both types of install for a while and see which one works best for you.
Steve
- Sky Aisling
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OK! I'm all geared up to do this install today. I shall go study what you have suggested and see what wonders I can wrought or what rotten wonders I can achieve News at 11:00...
Sky Aisling
COMPAQ Presario 1200 circa 2000
Processor: Celeron (Coppermine)
RAM:Less than 200 mg Total Size of machine 4 gb
Puppy 4.2.1 Running Like A Champ!
COMPAQ Presario 1200 circa 2000
Processor: Celeron (Coppermine)
RAM:Less than 200 mg Total Size of machine 4 gb
Puppy 4.2.1 Running Like A Champ!
- Sky Aisling
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Yes see hereSky Aisling wrote:Quick text edit question:
How do I make links hot in text? Is that the 'URL' tag in the upper right hand corner of the message body controls?
Time savers:
Find packages in a snap and install using Puppy Package Manager (Menu).
[url=http://puppylinux.org/wikka/HomePage]Consult Wikka[/url]
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Find packages in a snap and install using Puppy Package Manager (Menu).
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- RetroTechGuy
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As long as you'll be reformatting the drive, be sure to add a large-ish swap partition (at least 512MB, perhaps even 1GB, since you have 20GB to work with).Sky Aisling wrote:OK! I'm all geared up to do this install today. I shall go study what you have suggested and see what wonders I can wrought or what rotten wonders I can achieve News at 11:00...
gparted works quite well for tuning.
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- Sky Aisling
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I have decided to do a 'frugal' install.
I'll use rcrsn51 suggestions: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876
I have also read Shinobars suggestions:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62476
Shinobars says not to use Grub-configurations but to use Grub4DOSConfig
I am now attempting to figure out how to download and extract the "one-click-installer" folder that rcrsn51 suggests. I've never done this. Do I use 'Pet Packages'?
Once I get the download I know how to manipulate the file location, do copies, and so on.
I'll use rcrsn51 suggestions: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876
I have also read Shinobars suggestions:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62476
Shinobars says not to use Grub-configurations but to use Grub4DOSConfig
I am now attempting to figure out how to download and extract the "one-click-installer" folder that rcrsn51 suggests. I've never done this. Do I use 'Pet Packages'?
Once I get the download I know how to manipulate the file location, do copies, and so on.
- RetroTechGuy
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Re: Installing Puppy - Which file system to use? Fat32 or ext2/3
And I see that Bigpup has some instructions as well:RetroTechGuy wrote:How about rcrsn51's instructions:Sky Aisling wrote:PS Yes, I want to do a install to a hard drive. See discussion:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62493
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60302
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- RetroTechGuy
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The file is a tar.gz, which puppy knows how to handle. I haven't used this, since I run a Frugal install but... you should be able to simply click on the package (I don't know if it will simply extract a script, or if it will launch the script).Sky Aisling wrote:I have decided to do a 'frugal' install.
I'll use rcrsn51 suggestions: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876
I have also read Shinobars suggestions:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62476
Shinobars says not to use Grub-configurations but to use Grub4DOSConfig
I am now attempting to figure out how to download and extract the "one-click-installer" folder that rcrsn51 suggests. I've never done this. Do I use 'Pet Packages'?
Once I get the download I know how to manipulate the file location, do copies, and so on.
The nice thing is that you want to blow away Windows, so if it doesn't work, you have no data loss and can simply try it again.
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- Sky Aisling
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- RetroTechGuy
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I'm not exactly sure what you're trying. Go here, and click the download button:Sky Aisling wrote:In Puppy Package Manager I did a search on 'all' categories with the file name: one-click-installer.tar.gz
The results were 'no matching package name'.
Where else do I go to find a download of one-click-installer.tar.gz ?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876
Which links to this gzipped tar-ball file:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=31797
Don't try to outsmart yourself -- you shouldn't need PPM or anything else.
I just copied it to a flash drive and tried it. Clicking on the tarball shows the contents. I told it to extract the contents (which defaulted to the flash drive, where the tar.gz file was located) and it saved a folder named "install", which contains a script file named "install".
Since I don't want to install, I didn't click on it. However, you want to install, so you would click on "install".
If rcrsn51's wizardry is as good as normal, it should walk you through the process.
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- Sky Aisling
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When I go to http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876
I find one download button on the page but it says not to use it?
Please note. The PET by ecomoney that is attached to the message directly below this one is now out of date and should not be used.
one-click-installer.tar.gz
Description updated 2010-08-22
gz
Download
Filename one-click-installer.tar.gz
Filesize 1.84 KB
Downloaded 339 Time(s)
I find one download button on the page but it says not to use it?
Please note. The PET by ecomoney that is attached to the message directly below this one is now out of date and should not be used.
one-click-installer.tar.gz
Description updated 2010-08-22
gz
Download
Filename one-click-installer.tar.gz
Filesize 1.84 KB
Downloaded 339 Time(s)
- RetroTechGuy
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He is referring to the .pet file in the following message -- since this was based on an earlier version, it is out of date. Also note his last edit date at the bottom of the message: "Last edited by rcrsn51 on Thu 26 Aug 2010, 09:43; edited 12 times in total"Sky Aisling wrote:When I go to http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876
I find one download button on the page but it says not to use it?
Please note. The PET by ecomoney that is attached to the message directly below this one is now out of date and should not be used.
one-click-installer.tar.gz
Description updated 2010-08-22
gz
Download
Filename one-click-installer.tar.gz
Filesize 1.84 KB
Downloaded 339 Time(s)
The obsolete .pet link:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 291#315291
Update, note: Puppy knows how to open and install a variety of packages. Not only .pet files, but .tar.gz, .deb, etc. (I regularly install Debian packages, when a .pet doesn't exist -- however, always perform a backup before doing so, in case things go badly... "Backup" is easy for me, since I run a frugal install -- mount an old pupsave, and copy the current one to a new name)
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