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#1941 Post by Iguleder »

playdayz, you should replace lzma-tools with xz-utils and take a look at the libraries - many libraries are there for nothing.

Also - some libraries also have command-line utilities or "something-common" packages that are distributed with them - in some cases, those are not needed and they waste precious space. libsndfile and flac are examples.

Oh, and one last thing - have you tried to strip the kernel modules? I stripped a 2.6.35.9 and its size went down by ~5 MB. Now the kernel PET is 19 MB, tiny. I used "--strip-debug" because "--strip-all" causes scary warnings when the kernel boots.
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#1942 Post by Béèm »

playdayz wrote:
240: another National Language issue.

At the configuration of my locale, nl_BE, I ticked the UTF button as recommended.

But when I had installed CPUtemp I got a wrong display (see pic)
My fault Béèm, I think. Where did you install CPU-Temp from? We think that Menu -> System -> CPU Frequency Scaling Tool will be reliable for all computers. Could you try that and see if it works for you? You may have to choose Remove and reboot to get a fresh start. Thank you.
It is rcrsn51's pet.
Being in OpenBox, I don't have the little sun in the tray.
So if I understand well I run the freq scaling, I uninstall CPUtemp and reboot.
While setting up fres scaling, I got a warning that my bios was too old, but I could continue.
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#1943 Post by playdayz »

cthisbear, We added it and it seemed there were conflicts. Is it that hard to download from Puppy Package Manager?


Downloading it from PPM kind of assumes that you have a working internet connection from wherever your PC is located. If your wireless connection needs Pwireless to work.
Yes, but my impression was that he could connect but not with the level of encryption he preferred.

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#1944 Post by Béèm »

Béèm wrote:
playdayz wrote:
240: another National Language issue.

At the configuration of my locale, nl_BE, I ticked the UTF button as recommended.

But when I had installed CPUtemp I got a wrong display (see pic)
My fault Béèm, I think. Where did you install CPU-Temp from? We think that Menu -> System -> CPU Frequency Scaling Tool will be reliable for all computers. Could you try that and see if it works for you? You may have to choose Remove and reboot to get a fresh start. Thank you.
It is rcrsn51's pet.
Being in OpenBox, I don't have the little sun in the tray.
So if I understand well I run the freq scaling, I uninstall CPUtemp and reboot.
While setting up fres scaling, I got a warning that my bios was too old, but I could continue.
So freq scaling is active now, but I still have the wrong display for the temp when UTF is ticked and a message when UTF is not ticked.

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######### locale nl_BE and utf ##########
# CPUtemp
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
# 

######### locale nl_BE no utf #########
# CPUtemp
Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged
#
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#1945 Post by playdayz »

So freq scaling is active now, but I still have the wrong display for the temp when UTF is ticked and a message when UTF is not ticked.
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######### locale nl_BE and utf ##########
# CPUtemp
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
#

######### locale nl_BE no utf #########
# CPUtemp
Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged
#
I see, Beem. It is not the freq scaling program but the one that reads temperatures. Shinobar has asked for comment about whether UTF-8 by default is a good idea or not.

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#1946 Post by rcrsn51 »

I suspect that Beem's problem with CPUtemp comes from xmessage, which produces the pop-up window. It may not be able to deal with locale issues.

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#1947 Post by playdayz »

I have collected all of the pet packages ttuuxxx has created for Lucid and now I am stuck. How can I combine all of those pets into one folder to make into an sfs. I need to take the /usr/, /bin, and so forth folders out of the pet and combine them all into single /usr, /bin. etc. folders. Like making one giant pet out of them. I can see how to do it one by one.

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#1948 Post by playdayz »

rcrsn51 wrote:I suspect that Beem's problem with CPUtemp comes from xmessage, which produces the pop-up window. It may not be able to deal with locale issues.
So maybe a different way to read the temps? What does Menu -> System -> hardinfo show under Sensors? I get nothing unfortunately, but some people get resutls.

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#1949 Post by playdayz »

ttuuxxx, You made that Ogle look good enough and small enough that it would be possible to include in the iso. *Except* the full screen does not work in Openbox. It does work in jwm--my guess is because they both use some older method. Is there any chance you can get the full screen to work in Openbox? Or maybe someone knows what I am doing wrong.

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#1950 Post by Béèm »

playdayz wrote:
rcrsn51 wrote:I suspect that Beem's problem with CPUtemp comes from xmessage, which produces the pop-up window. It may not be able to deal with locale issues.
So maybe a different way to read the temps? What does Menu -> System -> hardinfo show under Sensors? I get nothing unfortunately, but some people get results.
If it is as rcrsn51 suspects and if puppy's are made from the same woof, the problem could be in other puppy's as well.
I tested squeeze 009 and have the same issue.
I tested fluppy 8 and I don't have the issue, neither in UTF nor in no-UTF.
I tried HW info sensors and in both cases the display is correct

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-Cooling Fans-
fan1		: 0RPM
-Temperatures-
temp1		: 50.00°C
temp2		: 49.00°C
temp3		: 0.00°C
temp4		: 0.00°C
temp5		: 0.00°C
temp6		: 0.00°C
temp7		: 0.00°C
temp8		: 0.00°C
-Voltage Values-
-ACPI Thermal Zone-
THM0		: 50°C
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#1951 Post by rcrsn51 »

Béèm wrote:I tested fluppy 8 and I don't have the issue, neither in UTF nor in no-UTF.
Perhaps Jemimah would know why her version of xmessage can handle UTF issues better.

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#1952 Post by smokey01 »

playdayz wrote:I have collected all of the pet packages ttuuxxx has created for Lucid and now I am stuck. How can I combine all of those pets into one folder to make into an sfs. I need to take the /usr/, /bin, and so forth folders out of the pet and combine them all into single /usr, /bin. etc. folders. Like making one giant pet out of them. I can see how to do it one by one.
I have been suggesting personalised sfs files for some time so I think it's a good idea too.
I know puppy comes the the mksquashfs and dir2sfs scripts but I have not been successful using them to create a sfs.

What I tried was, rename package.pet to package.pet.tar.gz then extract the file to /mnt/home/working, then while in the working type dir2pet name-001 and a sfs file name-001.sfs should be created. I also assumed that you could extract many pets to the working directory before you applied the dir2sfs script.

Maybe some one can explain the error of my ways.

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#1953 Post by DaveS »

smokey01 wrote:
playdayz wrote:I have collected all of the pet packages ttuuxxx has created for Lucid and now I am stuck. How can I combine all of those pets into one folder to make into an sfs. I need to take the /usr/, /bin, and so forth folders out of the pet and combine them all into single /usr, /bin. etc. folders. Like making one giant pet out of them. I can see how to do it one by one.
I have been suggesting personalised sfs files for some time so I think it's a good idea too.
I know puppy comes the the mksquashfs and dir2sfs scripts but I have not been successful using them to create a sfs.

What I tried was, rename package.pet to package.pet.tar.gz then extract the file to /mnt/home/working, then while in the working type dir2pet name-001 and a sfs file name-001.sfs should be created. I also assumed that you could extract many pets to the working directory before you applied the dir2sfs script.

Maybe some one can explain the error of my ways.

Thanks
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It has an sfs option. Select it from the tabs.
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#1954 Post by playdayz »

SFS making. Here's what I do.

I create the potential sfs in a folder the same as in making a pet--in fact it often is the pet. Then,

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 mksquashfs4 name-of-folder name-of-folder.sfs -noI
At the end is -noI (the capital ninth letter of the alphabet). It disables compression of the inodes--which fixed a problem that prevented a jre sfs from working.

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#1955 Post by DaveS »

playdayz wrote:SFS making. Here's what I do.

I create the potential sfs in a folder the same as in making a pet--in fact it often is the pet. Then,

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 mksquashfs4 name-of-folder name-of-folder.sfs -noI
At the end is -noI (the capital ninth letter of the alphabet). It disables compression of the inodes--which fixed a problem that prevented a jre sfs from working.
Odd. I didnt do that and got a nice jre sfs working. Huh..... beginners luck :)
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#1956 Post by playdayz »

Odd. I didnt do that and got a nice jre sfs working. Huh..... beginners luck
I was getting one that would work on my machine--sometimes--depending which directories I put the java stuff in. But other times, the contents of directories would disappear. At least the -noI is a possible option to keep in mind.

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#1957 Post by rcrsn51 »

@Beem: Try this:

1. Locate the hidden file /root/.XResources

2. Add the line

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xmessage*international:true
3. Restart X.

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#1958 Post by playdayz »

Possibility.

The issues with jwm that caused Openbox to be default have been worked away. Shinobar's firstrun wizard deals with one of them (not relocating panel when changing screen resolution).

Stellarium not running properly full screen seems to be fixed in 493.

OpenOffice Impress seems to be OK in 493.

The last problem is that the widget at the lower right of gnome-mplayer does not cause full-screen (unless you click it 3 times!)--I have a gnome-mplayer that I removed that widget from, and there are still 2 other ways to cause full screen.

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#1959 Post by Béèm »

rcrsn51 wrote:@Beem: Try this:

1. Locate the hidden file /root/.XResources

2. Add the line

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xmessage*international:true
3. Restart X.
Brilliant, rcrsn51
As well in UTF as in no-UTF the display is correct now, altho the font has changed, but that's not a big deal.
But I still have those messages when executed through a console.

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######### locale nl_BE and utf ##########
# CPUtemp
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
# 

######### locale nl_BE no utf #########
# CPUtemp
Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged
# 
I suppose this addition only effects xmesssage, but not other applications like ROX.

A pity that this code isn't by default in the .XResources file.
I keep having the impression, that National Language Support is the poor guy in puppy.
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#1960 Post by rcrsn51 »

Béèm wrote:A pity that this code isn't by default in the .Xsources file.
I keep having the impression, that National Language Support is the poor guy in puppy.
I don't know enough about NLS to comment. But it would be interesting to know why this works better in fluppy.

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