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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Mon 27 Sep 2010, 12:38    Post subject:  

vlc - cli only
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42518

it will have a few dependecies for codecs and the like, but you can use my config options as a basis to compile however you wish.

if you have gtkdialog (gtk2) there is a gtk frontend for it too:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54753

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Sep 2010, 16:49    Post subject:  

technosaurus,

ok , But I dont know or find how to plays the videos on ASCII ? or numbers and symbols on command line? I don't find the video output or how I configure with ASCII video output??

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Sep 2010, 15:54    Post subject:    

goingnuts ,

I like the last version (pupngo200810fulldrv) but I don't understand how some commands works .

Have a file manager? commands mc not found or xfe not found ...

    I don't have a network tool for active the Ethernet or I don't know the exact command.

    I click on mount disk icon and opens only the rxvt. I try to enter to the disk location - not permission

    Try to install and the command INSTALLPACKAGE not found .

    Its more fast than PULP or turbo pup for my old laptop with only 32mb ram but with that details for a beginner its difficult to ....




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PostPosted: Tue 28 Sep 2010, 22:30    Post subject:  

the file manager, network connection, .... is busybox
for a list of commands and their --help
http://busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov 2010, 16:08    Post subject:  

So, now I have a newly compiled static Xvesa, and two different window managers -
XvesaXvesa is now <600kb (upx's to 266kb)
jwm uses only ~2Mb RAM but provides a desktop,
mcwm is a minimal xcb based wm and only uses 200kb~ RAM

This should allow setting up a minimal X environment inside the initramfs

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 04:03    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:

Xvesa is now <600kb (upx's to 266kb)

This is indeed a major achievement! Thanks a lot - it works great and seems faster than the other Xvesa´s I have tried in pupngo.

Could not get the mcwm to work in the first try - but will keep trying - the potential here is also very interesting!
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 12:31    Post subject:  

I couldn't get mcwm to work with the one-line xvesa start method, but it works if you run startx mcwm or put it in /etc/windowmanager
I just posted a newer version with better default key bindings.
(urxvt is mcwm's default terminal, so It will help immensely to make a symlink or wrapper script to your terminal, so you can start it with the "windows" key + enter)

I thought i had posted my static jwm, but can't seem to find it now.

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 12:49    Post subject:  

Its here in the Saluki thread...
And I got your new mcwm running (using 196K) although not able to do more than moving the window with alt+mouse - have to learn those key-combinations Smile
Any chance to compile jwm with X11-tiny?
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 16:53    Post subject:  

goingnuts wrote:
- have to learn those key-combinations Smile
Any chance to compile jwm with X11-tiny?
It will need to wait till I have more time (I expect to need 4-8 hours straight), but I did make a cat page for mcwm (its like a manpage but you only need cat, less or any text editor)
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xyrion

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 21:29    Post subject:  

pUPnGO_V412_200110.iso (6Mb) on mediafire is dead Sad

Any mirrors please?
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Dec 2010, 05:22    Post subject:  

xyrion wrote:
pUPnGO_V412_200110.iso (6Mb) on mediafire is dead Sad

Any mirrors please?


For a short time... - please note that this is the first release and contains some bugs...
I am working on an update including some of the "enhancements" from the newer versions with the original focus on being a basic building block ...
and I need to find a more stable place than MediaFire....
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 01:48    Post subject:  

Why not put it on datafilehost

http://www.datafilehost.com/

Up to 50 MB per file
Unlimited file uploads
Unlimited file downloads

Your file is hosted forever as long as it gets downloaded at
least one time every 30 days

All file types allowed

//////////

If you couldn't download it ...restricted bandwidth etc...

send someone like me a PM...so that I can do that, and it stays there.

That's what I do with some files myself.

Chris.
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 06:05    Post subject:  

goingnuts wrote:
and I need to find a more stable place than MediaFire....

You can use mine.. ppm.scottjarvis.com - I'll happily stick it up there when its done...

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 00:53    Post subject:  

cthisbear: I will test that - thank you for the tip!
sc0ttman: Thanks for the offer!
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goingnuts

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Dec 2010, 10:28    Post subject:  

New build available - last 2010 version < 4Mb without drivers
What's new? Back to basic - pUPnGO is a basic building block - extract of the very "core" of Puppy Linux...
Please use in a protected environment (qemu, other emulators or an old not critical pc). The GUI_412.sfs automount all drives found and ntfs-drives might be affected - they are so sensitive...). This is a consequence of using BB mount/umount only - if you want to avoid this behavior install pupngo041210_SP1.pet attached to this post (contains ntfs-3g/mount/umount full versions static builds).

Gently modified org. initrd (changed BB and ntfsg3), mainssfs is CLI only and contains only static build programs.
This gives a basis to continue building all static or using any libc you want (ulibc, libc old or new etc.- any version) even loaded as a sfs after creating a save file. So you can install/uninstall libc without breaking the core system. Busybox resides in initrd.gz and are copied at boot if not present...

Contains file-manager (asmfile), udevd, mksquashfs, grub and most of the needed setup-scripts.

Included on the CD also a GUI-example - now as a sfs-package but can be installed (pkginstall.sh also handle install of sfs-files). All set-up-wizards and other scripts should work in console and in GUI (cli/dialog/Xdialog - the later only if present...). Configuration might be annoying as you are asked if you want to autologin, change password, auto dhcp ect.

Now personal builds can be done keeping the "core" and adding sfs-files with the new personal stuff.

Sizes:
pup_412pupngo.sfs 1036Kb (main static pUPnGO building block - the new "core")
zdrv_412.sfs 21Mb (all org. P412 kernel drivers)
initrd.gz 1275Kb
wmlinuz 1495Kb (with fb)

For demo-purpose:
links_static.pet 242Kb (optional text browser)
GUI_412.sfs 2148Kb (optional Xvesa+jwm environment - install or load sfs after save/boot)
glibc2.6_412.sfs 1120Kb (optional full P412 glibc - install or load sfs after save/boot)

update 061210: A small howto - in the form of a script - attached to demonstrate the very direct way that can be used to build new systems based on this version.
Also - as inspiration - an example of dressing pUPnGO up as xwoaf (x windows on a floppy) can be downloaded here in the form of a 876Kb sfs-file that can be installed or loaded at boot after creating a savefile. xwoaf uses old version of ulibc and TinyX-lib.
Another example is Basic Linux - another small Linux Distro - here used as dress-up for pUPnGO_041210 in the form of a sfs-file to install or load at (re-)boot. Based on libc5 and it is also possible to install packages from Slackware 4.0 (using the pkg command).

Some friendly soul made this video on YouTube
If you find any bugs - let me know
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