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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 17:07    Post subject:  
Which PET or SFS of OpenOffice is recommended for use with Insidious, please?

I started to load the openoffice-3.2.1.9502_en.US.pet but the pop-up warned about installing to /mnt/home

BTW: That error message includes a misspelled word.
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 18:52    Post subject:  
have a video for you on the tube guys....
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 19:09    Post subject:  
Jim1911 wrote:

Problems with added programs:
1. One of my favorite addons, Wbar, will not start. 01micko's fine Wbar-setup appears to function perfectly except for starting Wbar.
2. Pwidgets only partially works, however that's also a problem with luci-240.

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Jim

hmmmm... wbar is not one size fits all, I bet a program is missing/changed. I may have to make a simpler version with apps we know will be in puppy.

As for pwidgets I can't reproduce your problems Jim.. I will still investigate.

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I also had Billtoo's kernel source problem trying to compile nvidia-173.XX.XX.. maybe just a symlink.

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Xfce gtk themes don't play nice sometimes. It's a known issue in luci

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 19:11    Post subject:  
edoc wrote:
Which PET or SFS of OpenOffice is recommended for use with Insidious, please?

I started to load the openoffice-3.2.1.9502_en.US.pet but the pop-up warned about installing to /mnt/home

BTW: That error message includes a misspelled word.
Try LibreOffice, OpenOffice.org's spinoff. It works fine on incidious.
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 19:28    Post subject:  
01micko wrote:
Jim1911 wrote:

Problems with added programs:
1. One of my favorite addons, Wbar, will not start. 01micko's fine Wbar-setup appears to function perfectly except for starting Wbar.
2. Pwidgets only partially works, however that's also a problem with luci-240.

Cheers,
Jim

hmmmm... wbar is not one size fits all, I bet a program is missing/changed. I may have to make a simpler version with apps we know will be in puppy.

As for pwidgets I can't reproduce your problems Jim.. I will still investigate.

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I also had Billtoo's kernel source problem trying to compile nvidia-173.XX.XX.. maybe just a symlink.

__________________________________

Xfce gtk themes don't play nice sometimes. It's a known issue in luci

Cheers
Why didn't I think of that? Embarassed Quickpet is the culprit. Wbar starts fine with that removed.

Apparently, I have a hardware conflict. I've tried Pwidgets as the only added program so there isn't a program conflict. Others have reported no problem with pwidgets.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 19:30    Post subject:  
sneekylinux wrote:
have a video for you on the tube guys....

Nice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSFJpzyOVcI
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 19:35    Post subject: Re: Thanks!
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Guess what... pupRadio works! Weird eh? Teh Insidious Puppeh is looking the goods!

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 04:30    Post subject:  
sneekylinux wrote:
have a video for you on the tube guys....


Nice review, thanks Smile

I added PupRadio back, it fixed itself magically, just like the GNOME-MPlayer fullscreen bug Laughing

I think I'll build a 002 and write a full guide for building it during the process. I found a serious bug in my deb2ppm script, which screws up dependencies in PPM a 'lil bit.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 05:21    Post subject:  
iguleder,

just to let you know about an xlock bug that happens in insi (but i think it's woof):
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=472400#472400

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 06:03    Post subject:  
Hey guys, here's the solution to the package lists problem. I uploaded it only for passionate testers Laughing

Before you run this one, do

Code:
rm /root/.packages/Packages-*


Then restart X or run /root/Startup/download_package_lists. It will download a small xz-compressed tar archive with the package lists that came with 001. Around 1 MB in size ... it's great.

EDIT: the 1.2 MB size is because of the xz compression. In the Insidious ISO, I'm pretty sure they take way more.

I want 002 to have this thing instead of the package lists, they're big. I could make this script download Debian package lists and process them, but that would require a fast PC with Bash code or the devx if I want to use my deb2ppm script (for Perl).

EDIT: had a crazy idea ... what if I wrote a script that compares two SFSs, then takes all the extra files from the second one, puts them in a directory and writes a pinstall.sh that removes all files that don't exist in it ... this could be sort of a primitive updating mechanism - I could turn this into a PET and make this dialog also download and install so-called "updates".
download_package_lists-001.pet
Description 
pet

 Download 
Filename  download_package_lists-001.pet 
Filesize  1.09 KB 
Downloaded  313 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 06:45    Post subject:  
Another idea. I also replied in Barry's blog with this one.

I could make all the special stuff in Insidious much more generic with a homepage field in DISTRO_SPECS.

For example, the package list could be downloaded from:
Code:
$DISTRO_REPOSITORY/$DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX-$DISTRO_VERSION/Packages.tar.gz


In the case of Insidious Puppy 001:
Code:
http://brainwavedesigncentral.net/dima/inpu-001/Packages.tar.gz


In the case of Lucid Puppy 5.2:
Code:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/lupu-520/Packages.tar.gz


In the case of Wary 098:
Code:
http://www.bkhome.org/wary-098/Packages.tar.gz


The distro homepage variable could be used for many other things, the possibilties are endless.

This opens the door to smaller puppies that download non-crucial parts such as documentation and locales if the user wants to. Of course, this could be done through PPM, but what if it's a puplet or a Puppy that doesn't have its own repository? That's where this trick shines Razz

This could be used for "service packs", Quickpet and so many other uses ... I think it's a great idea.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 07:58    Post subject:  
What about this for a home page: http://puppy.b0x.me/psearch.html
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 08:02    Post subject:  
What about this as /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser?

Code:

#!/bin/busybox ash

if [ ! -d /root/.mozilla ]; then

  exec /usr/bin/iceape "http://puppy.b0x.me/psearch.html $@"

else

   exec /usr/bin/iceape "$@"

fi


Should make the browser open on this page when you first start it ... well, theoretically. Not sure if it really works.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 08:07    Post subject:  
abushcrafter wrote:
What about this for a home page: http://puppy.b0x.me/psearch.html

Love it, bookmarked. Nice job.
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Nov 2010, 08:30    Post subject: Insidious Puppy 001
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I found this wallpaper, looks kind of nerdy.

Fresh install of sid pup on acer revo, working good so far.
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