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#21 Post by James C »

While I'm working of frugal installs on the test boxes I'm giving Insidious Puppy 001 a quick run live pfix=ram on my main Linux box.

Initial boot had working sound and no problem getting my desired 1440x900x24 resolution..........no network interface was detected though. Was able to use the Network Wizard and load the correct module so working now.


VIDEO REPORT: Insidious Puppy, version 001

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

Even with the default nv driver...

# glxgears
406 frames in 5.0 seconds = 81.050 FPS
480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 95.993 FPS
482 frames in 5.0 seconds = 96.373 FPS
479 frames in 5.0 seconds = 95.740 FPS
480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 95.818 FPS
551 frames in 5.0 seconds = 110.108 FPS
588 frames in 5.0 seconds = 117.527 FPS
554 frames in 5.1 seconds = 109.346 FPS
606 frames in 5.0 seconds = 121.087 FPS
582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 116.353 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1035MB (133MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 28 Nov 2010 05:37:18 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

--OpenGL
Vendor : Mesa Project
Renderer : Software Rasterizer
Version : 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering : Yes

Seems pretty solid so far. :)

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Re: Insidious Puppy 001

#22 Post by cinclus_cinclus »

Iguleder wrote:Insidious Puppy 001

Download

ISO: inpu-001.iso
devx: inpu_devx_001.sfs
MD5 sums: md5sums.txt
md5sums.txt says:

Code: Select all

ce8d6b01063df49041bb8de571abda3b  inpu_devx_001.sfs
But I always get ( 3 times downloaded):

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a684d1363629fc60239044ec38487020  inpu_devx_001.sfs

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#23 Post by taca0 »

I was using zen006 but testing this new insidious, its working great !!

How the file roller extract rar files??

How I change clock to not military and add am or pm??

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#24 Post by James C »

Manual frugal install of Insidious 001 on the P4 test box.Initial boot had working sound and internet as well as the correct screen resolution.Installed several pets from the Lucid repo and all are working fine.No real problems here.


VIDEO REPORT: Insidious Puppy, version 001

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


# glxgears
616 frames in 5.0 seconds = 123.025 FPS
713 frames in 5.0 seconds = 142.498 FPS
841 frames in 5.0 seconds = 168.130 FPS
910 frames in 5.0 seconds = 181.926 FPS
891 frames in 5.0 seconds = 178.193 FPS
902 frames in 5.0 seconds = 180.385 FPS
830 frames in 5.0 seconds = 165.845 FPS
787 frames in 5.0 seconds = 157.173 FPS


-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 513MB (121MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 28 Nov 2010 11:16:26 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

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#25 Post by pemasu »

Tested Insidious now several reboots. Looks and works just fine.

There is problem with ppm repo update and repo visibility. Fixed problem I am sure.

Cups works with printing wirelessly to my HP1020. Previous small bugs fixed. I had same problems with acpitool -s, but after tests i got it working combining earlier acpitool-s from dpup and installing shinobars latest acpid. I also copied /etc/acpi from fluppy and installed pwireless2 to get full laptop support. Now my machine connects to net after wake up automatically.

I like the good selection of apps and little stripped down outlook. The selected apps are all working, no useless stuff.
I installed pupradio and it works with vlc fine. Lxtask, gtkhash and file-roller were good picks.

To change clock outcome, install PupClockset pet.

I think this should be locked down version and next step would be adding stuff to Insidious repo and test Lucid apps usability in Insidious because lucid guys have so many packages already collected. And also compile more apps in Insidious. I think this sid based dpup has potential to be LTS version :)

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#26 Post by Iguleder »

Bert wrote:* What's the window manager?
JWM. Fullscreen works in Flash and GNOME-MPlayer.
Bert wrote:* How long is your military duty? :?
At least three years, but could be 4.5 years, 5.5 years or all my life :wink:
tlchost wrote:but when it boots it take forever trying to find the save file(which of course is not there on the firt boot) and then times out.
This needs investigation. Is it a slow USB 1.1 device?
tlchost wrote:error: modinfo could not find module snd
It's compiled into the kernel to make it boot faster.
tlchost wrote:isapnp????
no such file detected no device found
Insidious doesn't have this this included.
tlchost wrote:Cups
No PDF printer installed
Yes, use "print to file" instead.
taca0 wrote:How the file roller extract rar files??
Install unrar from the Debian repos.
taca0 wrote:How I change clock to not military and add am or pm??
I remember someone wrote a guide for this that involves editing of some packages but I didn't do this for obvious reasons :wink:
cinclus_cinclus wrote:But I always get ( 3 times downloaded):
Wow, you're right. I uploaded a new md5sums.txt. Thank you.
upnorth wrote:When I tried to open the /usr/share/examples/colorcir.ps, it wouldn't display in epdfviewer. xerrs.log revealed that libjbig2dec.so.0 was missing:
Thank you, fixed.

I think I might upload a "001.1" real soon, to fix PPM and this CUPS issue.

I also had an idea in mind - the "Packages-debian-*" files in /root/.packages consume 7.9 MB uncompressed, they're simply huge! Maybe I can build the ISO without those and without the "Packages-puppy-*" files.
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#27 Post by tubby »

Did a manual frugal install edited menu.lst and rebooted.
The distro booted very fast without a problem, initial screens worked ok but i noticed that the text was displayed in a higher resolution than i chose?, when desktop appeared it was the resolution i chose.
So far this is distro is looking to be a very stable and useable, will do a full install later and try to compile a few apps.
Good Work Iguleder, and i hope your army tour will not be to stressful.

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#28 Post by Bert »

taca0 wrote:I
How I change clock to not military and add am or pm??
tacao, there's a very nice pet made by radky, that lets you choose the time and date format.
See this thread.

If you want to do it manually, the "set 1" ( %l:%M %p ) in radky's post is the right parameter for 12h.am/pm.
It has to be pasted in /root/.jwmtray on the minixcal line near the end of the file. Replace "%H:%M" with it.
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#29 Post by tlchost »

Iguleder wrote:
tlchost wrote:but when it boots it take forever trying to find the save file(which of course is not there on the firt boot) and then times out.
This needs investigation. Is it a slow USB 1.1 device?
No....and Quirkyy1.4 has the same problem.
tlchost wrote:error: modinfo could not find module snd
It's compiled into the kernel to make it boot faster.
So what good is a faster boot if it can not detect/use the onboard audio?
tlchost wrote:isapnp????
no such file detected no device found
Insidious doesn't have this this included.
Quirky 1.4 also suffers the same problem.

So if the distro won't detect the onboard sound chip...what do you suggest?
tlchost wrote:Cups
No PDF printer installed
Yes, use "print to file" instead.
If the sound problem didn;t exist, I'd be happy to test print to file.

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#30 Post by Iguleder »

tclhost wrote:So what good is a faster boot if it can not detect/use the onboard audio?
I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with the "snd" module. Maybe it's just a driver that both 2.6.31.14 and 2.6.32.26 lack.

Just check what driver you need from a Puppy that does have sound working. That's the first step - identify the driver.
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#31 Post by Sylvander »

Was able to boot this, make the configuration choices, get to the desktop.
I'd previously copied the SFS file to an ext3 partition filling a 1GB Flash Drive.
It looked good.
Rebooted, and as it shut-down, made a 512MB pupsave file beside the SFS file.
At reboot the pupsave wasn't seen.
After a couple of tries to produce a fix, I gave up and deleted everything.

I already have Dpup-010 working, but wanted to see if Inpu is better or not.

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#32 Post by Iguleder »

This could be related to the latest Woof ... can you reproduce this behavior with Luci 240 or Quirky 1.4?
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#33 Post by Bert »

Iguleder wrote:Bert wrote:
* How long is your military duty?

At least three years, but could be 4.5 years, 5.5 years or all my life
Terrible! The army should provide you with a nice little cabin on the beach, with a shady tree, a coffee machine, and a laptop. Someone should explain to them that Iguleder coding for Puppy and Debian would contribute more to national security than you having to carry guns.
( You could even add a sign to the cabin's door "Cave canem", Latin for "Watch out, insidious dog inside :lol: )
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#34 Post by tubby »

Iceape seems to be missing a library.
Check your errs.log in /tmp to see if it shows as missing after opening Iceape,if so install from link below.

http://packages.debian.org/sid/libs/libthai0

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#35 Post by Iguleder »

It seems Pango wants libthai, fixed. Thank you. :)
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#36 Post by Terryphi »

What version of Xorg is used in Insidious Puppy?

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#37 Post by Sylvander »

@Iguleder

1. "This could be related to the latest Woof ... can you reproduce this behavior with Luci 240 or Quirky 1.4?"
No sign of this problem in any of my other 6 Puppies as follows:
(a) Dpup-010
(b) Teenpup mini 2010 beta
(c) Luci-240
(d) Lupu-511
(e) Boxpup-431
(f) Lighthouse-500-F (build 500)

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#38 Post by Bert »

Wow, Inpu is faaast!
Congratulations Iguleder;

Changing from LuPu to InPu feels like going "back to basics".

At first boot the tray loudspeaker icon showed 'muted' (little red cross below it), but the woof-woof played normally. No audio problems here.

First time I clicked an mp3 tp play, alsaplayer opened, but only the upper part of its window was visible., not the playlist and the function buttons. I closed it and tried again: problem gone, Alsaplayer now shows completely and plays music okay.

Watching mp4 video: no problem, even full screen okay, maybe just a little bit of lagging, but acceptable.

Watching Flash video (youtube) full screen works, but there is too much lagging to be enjoyable.

Am I right in thinking this Xorg-High stuff doesn't help my Atom ION, nvidia board?

My first encounter with IceApe. Fortunately it accepts all things Seamonkey: I installed:
* Seamonkey language pack
* Adblock+
* Sea Tab X from Cat Thief (essentiial imho)
and finally learned how to move the home button from the personal bar to the main bar...

Even after refreshing the sources twice, my ppm remains empty. Just a handfull of apps show up in the InPu repo.
All Puppy package lists in /root/.packages are well populated, the Debian ones are empty. I understand others are having problems with ppm as well, but are these like what I desribe here?

When clicking the tray clock the calendar appears. But clicking the clock again doesn't hide the calendar. The minixcal bar to the left has to be clicked in order to close the calendar.

Numlock, ahem, I know it's not your fault Igu, but it should one day -say tomorrow :wink: - be solved.

I hope we'll be able to access NLS files soon.
I installed the language pack created by Shinobar and it works well in InPu too!

I also installed the Iron 7 pet, the one Playdayz made with the cache size limit and one of the few browsers that install with the locale correctly set. It just flies in InPu!

Had a problem with SFS, see the screenprint.

Thanks for your great work!
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#39 Post by Bert »

Terryphi wrote:What version of Xorg is used in Insidious Puppy?
1.7.7

EDIT :Whooops, Terryphi, that was a very stupid reply to your question!
I found this "1.7.7" in Hardinfo >>display : Xorg Foundation, version 1.7.7..

But that's something else I now realize.
Apologies, I didn't think, was only trying to help.
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#40 Post by Terryphi »

Good work, Iguleder. No problems with sound or setting resolution at 1024x768. Used Opera deb to install Opera 11.00 and ran without problems.

I have strange behaviour with Mailwasher for Linux: all text and dialogs have a space between each character! I have never seen this before on any Puppies.

I like Iceape but really miss Notecase and Osmo so I will have to add them - no problem. :)

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