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tlchost

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Nov 2010, 17:02    Post_subject: Frustration  

I normally run Puppy on a bootable USB drive and use LiLi USB Creator
http://old.linuxliveusb.com/ With this puplet(distro) I can create a bootable USB drive....but when it boots it take forever trying to find the save file(which of course is not there on the firt boot) and then times out.

Using a LiveCD that I burned from the iso I have the following problems:

Sound....running the wizard results in;
error: modinfo could not find module snd

isapnp????
no such file detected no device found

Cups
No PDF printer installed
Add printer, detects my LaserJet1 1012 on usb port, will not print test page error /usb/lib/cups/Filter/psttopdf failed
Printer listed as idle with message that couldn;t read xreftable

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Nov 2010, 17:22    Post_subject:  

Thanks for your great intro explaining insidious puppy!
While I'm downloading, two vital questions Smile :

* What's the window manager?
* How long is your military duty? Confused

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Nov 2010, 17:43    Post_subject:  

Just loaded the updated Insidious Puppy 001 on two laptops.

On my Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 it worked perfectly!

On the CF-28 it failed the same as before, blank display.

Luci-239 brings up the xorgwizard command prompt but just loops & when I try Vesa it also brings me to a blank screen. There is the warning about deprecated the modconfig location and the first time something about mouseconfig being set to "5".

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Nov 2010, 18:03    Post_subject: Thanks!
Sub_title: Thanks!
 

Hi all:

Insidious pup is proving to be fast, stable, and light on resources. Thanks for the effort and diligence. Cool

just a minor thing here that might help with rendering .ps files:
info http://packages.debian.org/sid/libjbig2dec0
download http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/libjbig2dec0/download

When I tried to open the /usr/share/examples/colorcir.ps, it wouldn't display in epdfviewer. xerrs.log revealed that libjbig2dec.so.0 was missing:
/usr/bin/gs: error while loading shared libraries: libjbig2dec.so.0:

After installing the above package, the colorcir.ps displayed fine.
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Nov 2010, 18:11    Post_subject:  

Thanks Edoc for this one.

"Luci-239 brings up the xorgwizard command prompt but just loops & when I try Vesa it also brings me to a blank screen. There is the warning about deprecated the modconfig location and the first time something about mouseconfig being set to "5".
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That is what I see too but it goes away so fast that I recognized it now when you spelled it out.

But typical of me I fail to remember when I see it or at which puppy but it is rather often.

So maybe it is important.

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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 28 Nov 2010, 19:38    Post_subject:  

While I'm working of frugal installs on the test boxes I'm giving Insidious Puppy 001 a quick run live pfix=ram on my main Linux box.

Initial boot had working sound and no problem getting my desired 1440x900x24 resolution..........no network interface was detected though. Was able to use the Network Wizard and load the correct module so working now.


VIDEO REPORT: Insidious Puppy, version 001

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

Even with the default nv driver...

# glxgears
406 frames in 5.0 seconds = 81.050 FPS
480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 95.993 FPS
482 frames in 5.0 seconds = 96.373 FPS
479 frames in 5.0 seconds = 95.740 FPS
480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 95.818 FPS
551 frames in 5.0 seconds = 110.108 FPS
588 frames in 5.0 seconds = 117.527 FPS
554 frames in 5.1 seconds = 109.346 FPS
606 frames in 5.0 seconds = 121.087 FPS
582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 116.353 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1035MB (133MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 28 Nov 2010 05:37:18 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

--OpenGL
Vendor : Mesa Project
Renderer : Software Rasterizer
Version : 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering : Yes

Seems pretty solid so far. Smile
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cinclus_cinclus

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Nov 2010, 19:38    Post_subject: Re: Insidious Puppy 001
Sub_title: A Debian Sid and Puppy breed, the successor to Puppy Squeeze
 

Iguleder wrote:
Insidious Puppy 001

Download

ISO: inpu-001.iso
devx: inpu_devx_001.sfs
MD5 sums: md5sums.txt


md5sums.txt says:

Code:
ce8d6b01063df49041bb8de571abda3b  inpu_devx_001.sfs


But I always get ( 3 times downloaded):

Code:
a684d1363629fc60239044ec38487020  inpu_devx_001.sfs
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taca0

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PostPosted: Sun 28 Nov 2010, 23:29    Post_subject:  

I was using zen006 but testing this new insidious, its working great !!

How the file roller extract rar files??

How I change clock to not military and add am or pm??
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James C


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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 01:17    Post_subject:  

Manual frugal install of Insidious 001 on the P4 test box.Initial boot had working sound and internet as well as the correct screen resolution.Installed several pets from the Lucid repo and all are working fine.No real problems here.


VIDEO REPORT: Insidious Puppy, version 001

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


# glxgears
616 frames in 5.0 seconds = 123.025 FPS
713 frames in 5.0 seconds = 142.498 FPS
841 frames in 5.0 seconds = 168.130 FPS
910 frames in 5.0 seconds = 181.926 FPS
891 frames in 5.0 seconds = 178.193 FPS
902 frames in 5.0 seconds = 180.385 FPS
830 frames in 5.0 seconds = 165.845 FPS
787 frames in 5.0 seconds = 157.173 FPS


-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 513MB (121MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 28 Nov 2010 11:16:26 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 02:30    Post_subject:  

Tested Insidious now several reboots. Looks and works just fine.

There is problem with ppm repo update and repo visibility. Fixed problem I am sure.

Cups works with printing wirelessly to my HP1020. Previous small bugs fixed. I had same problems with acpitool -s, but after tests i got it working combining earlier acpitool-s from dpup and installing shinobars latest acpid. I also copied /etc/acpi from fluppy and installed pwireless2 to get full laptop support. Now my machine connects to net after wake up automatically.

I like the good selection of apps and little stripped down outlook. The selected apps are all working, no useless stuff.
I installed pupradio and it works with vlc fine. Lxtask, gtkhash and file-roller were good picks.

To change clock outcome, install PupClockset pet.

I think this should be locked down version and next step would be adding stuff to Insidious repo and test Lucid apps usability in Insidious because lucid guys have so many packages already collected. And also compile more apps in Insidious. I think this sid based dpup has potential to be LTS version Smile
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Iguleder


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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 04:20    Post_subject:  

Bert wrote:
* What's the window manager?


JWM. Fullscreen works in Flash and GNOME-MPlayer.

Bert wrote:
* How long is your military duty? Confused


At least three years, but could be 4.5 years, 5.5 years or all my life Wink

tlchost wrote:
but when it boots it take forever trying to find the save file(which of course is not there on the firt boot) and then times out.


This needs investigation. Is it a slow USB 1.1 device?

tlchost wrote:
error: modinfo could not find module snd


It's compiled into the kernel to make it boot faster.

tlchost wrote:
isapnp????
no such file detected no device found


Insidious doesn't have this this included.

tlchost wrote:
Cups
No PDF printer installed


Yes, use "print to file" instead.

taca0 wrote:
How the file roller extract rar files??


Install unrar from the Debian repos.

taca0 wrote:
How I change clock to not military and add am or pm??


I remember someone wrote a guide for this that involves editing of some packages but I didn't do this for obvious reasons Wink

cinclus_cinclus wrote:
But I always get ( 3 times downloaded):


Wow, you're right. I uploaded a new md5sums.txt. Thank you.

upnorth wrote:
When I tried to open the /usr/share/examples/colorcir.ps, it wouldn't display in epdfviewer. xerrs.log revealed that libjbig2dec.so.0 was missing:


Thank you, fixed.

I think I might upload a "001.1" real soon, to fix PPM and this CUPS issue.

I also had an idea in mind - the "Packages-debian-*" files in /root/.packages consume 7.9 MB uncompressed, they're simply huge! Maybe I can build the ISO without those and without the "Packages-puppy-*" files.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 05:43    Post_subject:  

Did a manual frugal install edited menu.lst and rebooted.
The distro booted very fast without a problem, initial screens worked ok but i noticed that the text was displayed in a higher resolution than i chose?, when desktop appeared it was the resolution i chose.
So far this is distro is looking to be a very stable and useable, will do a full install later and try to compile a few apps.
Good Work Iguleder, and i hope your army tour will not be to stressful.
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 06:16    Post_subject:  

taca0 wrote:
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How I change clock to not military and add am or pm??


tacao, there's a very nice pet made by radky, that lets you choose the time and date format.
See this thread.

If you want to do it manually, the "set 1" ( %l:%M %p ) in radky's post is the right parameter for 12h.am/pm.
It has to be pasted in /root/.jwmtray on the minixcal line near the end of the file. Replace "%H:%M" with it.

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 06:43    Post_subject:  

Iguleder wrote:

tlchost wrote:
but when it boots it take forever trying to find the save file(which of course is not there on the firt boot) and then times out.


This needs investigation. Is it a slow USB 1.1 device?

No....and Quirkyy1.4 has the same problem.
Quote:

tlchost wrote:
error: modinfo could not find module snd


It's compiled into the kernel to make it boot faster.


So what good is a faster boot if it can not detect/use the onboard audio?

Quote:

tlchost wrote:
isapnp????
no such file detected no device found


Insidious doesn't have this this included.


Quirky 1.4 also suffers the same problem.

So if the distro won't detect the onboard sound chip...what do you suggest?

Quote:

tlchost wrote:
Cups
No PDF printer installed


Yes, use "print to file" instead.

If the sound problem didn;t exist, I'd be happy to test print to file.
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 06:53    Post_subject:  

tclhost wrote:
So what good is a faster boot if it can not detect/use the onboard audio?


I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with the "snd" module. Maybe it's just a driver that both 2.6.31.14 and 2.6.32.26 lack.

Just check what driver you need from a Puppy that does have sound working. That's the first step - identify the driver.

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