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gabe

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Nov 2010, 23:47    Post_subject:  

playdayz wrote:
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, verifying that 5.1.1 works fine... but the browser is HORRIBLE. gmail.com or www.gmail.com fail miserably, the scroll bar disappears randomly, and whatnot. What is this "Midori" nonsense as default? XD

midori is meant to be an internal browser for very limited purposes. When you start it from the menu there should be a warning message. There is a full version in the puppy Package Manager if you like midori Wink

The first tiem you click the browse icon on the desktop youa re asked to choose a real browser!


I see! But there was no warning message because it popped up by itself (welcome screen, with "woof woof!" sound effect). Newbies (like me) would simply enter other URLs in the obvious address bar and browse, finding all these glitches and then some. Interesting there is no default browser.

Though my next gripe is with gnome-mplayer -- it's quite slow and scaling/stretching video is broken (I'm using the Xorg_High on an Intel 945 chipset with xv and X11 output). I'm guessing 5.1.1 wasn't as optimized? I also couldn't find the awesome gxine in 5.1.1 -- just my oversight? One more thing -- JWM's bottom panel disappeared (permanently) when I selected "bluish-gradient" as my GTK theme followed by "Use GTK theme" in JWM settings. Is this fixed in 5.2? Wink

And though I can run 5.1.1 so easily and in all sorts of novel boot techniques, I can't load luci-238 no matter what I try. Remember, I have no CD drive and can't test via VM on this netbook. (And I ONLY have this netbook at my disposal right now).

A hint: at bootup, it looks for luci_238.sfs (note the underscore) while all other puppy versions (ever) have looked for name-### (note the DASH/HYPHEN). The significance of the underscore being bad was discussed ages ago under "Warning to MS Windows users" here, but the problem ONLY applies to 238, NOT 5.1.1 or 4.2, etc.
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01micko


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 00:33    Post_subject:  

gabe

I am posting from a usb install of 238 in a fat32 usb disk, no trouble booting (more trouble typing! keyboard is broken Sad ) so you are spot on with your windows dash versus underscore theory it seems.

Maybe you should search the forum for a solution, I don't use windows so can't offer a solution.

If the filename on the media for luci_238.sfs is wrong can you rename it?

Shinobar? Do you have one for gabe and his mom?

Cheers

an after thought... since you can boot 511, can you boot to that, insert the problematic luci_238 drive (if you have enough ports) and change the filename in a linux environment?

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 00:44    Post_subject:  

Hi micko funny I compiled installwatch yesterday before you packaged the ubuntu one and well it didn't work right, but I'm please to announce your fix indeed work, Now that's a job well done, I went as far as compiling make, automake,libtool, m4 etc. Oh well at least one of us squashed that bug Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 00:53    Post_subject: underscore  

gabe wrote:
A hint: at bootup, it looks for luci_238.sfs (note the underscore)

Ah, yes i realized. I am on Puppy(LupQ-511) and seeing .iso files.
luci-236-SCSI.iso and later uses underscore, rerating the '-SCSI' add to the .iso file name?.
Although i had no problem with boot up the frugal installation both luci-231 to 235 with 'luci-xxx.sfs' and luci-236-SCSI to 238 with 'luci_xxx.sfs'.

As for the Windows file name problem, the file name 'pup-431.sfs' was seen as 'PUP_431.SFS' from Windows.
Recent woof has no problem i guess, but i am not sure.

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James C


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 00:57    Post_subject:  

For what its worth,my Luci-238 iso has the underscore and boots fine from the cd and manual frugal installs.Downloaded and burned in Windows 7. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 01:24    Post_subject: Re: Won't boot from USB??!?!!!  

gabe wrote:
I used the latest UNetBootin to place the Luci-238 ISO on my sd card.

UNetbootin extracts the ISO file, right?
There is a chance to corrupt files at extracting.
As mick says we can check the file size of each.
If you can run another Puppy(i guess you have 5.1.1), mount the Luci-238 ISO by one-click and extract the contents.
Assuming you have checked the md5sum of the ISO file. You can check it from the Puppy using gtkhash.
Cf. file sizes:
3,161,663 initrd.gz
137,617,424 luci_238.sfs
2,228,816 vmlinuz

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 01:27    Post_subject: Lucid Puppy 5.2 Base Luci-238 New Version NOV 20
Sub_title: irc chat client
 

This is small IRC chat client program that runs from a terminal
emulator such as mrxvt.
It doesn't have a menu entry but to start it just start mrxvt and
enter the commands:

irssi
/connect irc.freenode.net
/nick "whatever you want for a nickname"
/join #puppylinux

to get help enter alt-left arrow until you get to the start, then /help

Anyway I thought this might be a useful program for some people if you
want to give it a try, or wait a while and ttuuxxx will likely upload
a smaller version Smile
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01micko


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 01:47    Post_subject:  

working good Billtoo... on IRC #puppylinux right now (using rxvt Wink )

Cheers Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 02:16    Post_subject: Re: Won't boot from USB??!?!!!  

gabe wrote:
I used the latest UNetBootin to place the Luci-238 ISO on my sd card. I went to my computer, stuck it in, and the Puppy image came up, it said "loading drivers to access disk drives" and all... then it searched folders for puppy files. Then subfolders. Then sub-subfolders. Then failed.

OK, i have confirmed. Wink
Unetbootin copies the 'isolinux.cfg' to 'syslinux.cfg'. There is the lines:
Quote:
label puppy
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=cd

This entry fails to boot. I replaced 'cd' to 'usbflash'.
Quote:
label puppy
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash

Then it successfully boots up.

Possiblly something changed in woof. The 'pmedia=cd' option searched all the media including usb devices in the PC i remember.
Will test with Wary.
EDIT: Tested Wary 098 and confirmed the same issue.

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 02:31    Post_subject:  

Hey 01micko, look what I found: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/choosewm

We could make a PET and make it the default window manager Wink

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 02:39    Post_subject:  

Iguleder wrote:
Hey 01micko, look what I found: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/choosewm

We could make a PET and make it the default window manager Wink

where's the source? (on IRC now Wink )

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 03:01    Post_subject:  

two common errors I get when compiling on luci are
undefined reference to `GTK_WIDGET_REALIZED'
and
undefined reference to `GTK_WIDGET_TOPLEVEL'
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 03:07    Post_subject: Re: underscore  

shinobar wrote:
gabe wrote:
A hint: at bootup, it looks for luci_238.sfs (note the underscore)

Ah, yes i realized. I am on Puppy(LupQ-511) and seeing .iso files.
luci-236-SCSI.iso and later uses underscore, rerating the '-SCSI' add to the .iso file name?.
Although i had no problem with boot up the frugal installation both luci-231 to 235 with 'luci-xxx.sfs' and luci-236-SCSI to 238 with 'luci_xxx.sfs'.

As for the Windows file name problem, the file name 'pup-431.sfs' was seen as 'PUP_431.SFS' from Windows.
Recent woof has no problem i guess, but i am not sure.


That's correct. I booted 235 no problem -- it had the hyphen. I renamed the 238 sfs to 235 with hyphen and replaced it. This rename "trick" (naming _238 to -235 and replacing a stock 235 installation) allowed me to boot into 238. I'm posting from it now.

It is 236 (labeled SCSI) and up that are completely broken. Also, I'm 110% sure it's not corrupt. (Just to be sure, yes, the size of my ISO and sfs matches perfectly, and not just UNetBootin has the issue).

Like I said, I'm posting from a 238 liveUSB right now (even though the sfs now says -235 because of my trick!).

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 03:24    Post_subject:  

playdayz wrote:
I show libid3.so in /usr/lib. Is there a different one?
Some tools are missing. I grabbed them from wary and it works just fine. Smile
- id3convert and id3cp (not in use by Pmusic)
- id3info and id3tag (in use)

Glad to hear that the new Pprocess has reached Puppy.


Thank you
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 03:28    Post_subject:  

01micko wrote:
where's the source?


Here's teh secret sauce:

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/choosewm/choosewm_0.1.6.orig.tar.gz
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/choosewm/choosewm_0.1.6-1.diff.gz

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