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Sit Heel Speak

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind
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Posted: Tue 16 Nov 2010, 16:33 Post subject:
Suggestion for drive icon "mounted" indicator placement Subject description: put it at the bottom, not the top |
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Suggestion: it would bless us Openbox users slightly, if the "mounted" indicator were at the bottom of each drive icon, rather than the top. Then, in Openbox Obconfig, Margins, we would have another 10 to 15 pixels of height for our fully-maximized apps, and still be able to see at-a-glance whether a partition is mounted or not.
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darkcity

Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2215 Location: near here
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 02:45 Post subject:
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make it configurable, then everyone should be happy
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stu90

Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 1401 Location: England. Dell Inspiron 1501. Dpup
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 12:14 Post subject:
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Do you mean the drive icons that are on the desktop? If so the drive icons are located in usr/local/lib/x11/themes you can just swap them out with what ever icons you like.
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Sit Heel Speak

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 14:12 Post subject:
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| stu90 wrote: | | Do you mean the drive icons that are on the desktop? If so the drive icons are located in usr/local/lib/x11/themes you can just swap them out with what ever icons you like. | Yes. The suggestion is meant for icon-designers, and for any Puppy or Puplet creator who is deciding what default icon-set to include in his/her release.
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technosaurus

Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 3843
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 15:12 Post subject:
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just to try to clarify??? not sure what the underlying issue is
1 - it has to do with the mounted icon itself depending on placement
2 - it is only if you are using (non-standard) openbox
3 - is there a screenshot showing the problem / proposed solution?
4 - you propose that the source code is hacked to be able to place the icon text above icons instead of below (the defacto standard across every desktop environment I've ever seen)
5 - None of the above ... I guess you'll have to put me on ritalin and draw me a picture - I'm confused.
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Sit Heel Speak

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 17:03 Post subject:
Screen captures showing difference in "mounted" indicator |
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| technosaurus wrote: | | put me on ritalin and draw me a picture | a t rex on ritalin...good heavens, lock up your stegosauruses!
Openbox is the default window manager in Quirky. I happen to like it in Luci and Lighthouse as well. (...however, when eventually I produce my own Puplet for public consumption, it will probably carry Fluxbox, for the sake of simplicity).
(scroll both screencaps linked below, to the bottom)
Wrong style of drive icon mounted indicator: Quirky (a Sept. 5 local woofbuild) with its default icon set:
http://i52.tinypic.com/favccy.png
Right: Luci-237 using Openbox:
http://i56.tinypic.com/k2k2d.png
Note the gain of 27 pixels at the bottom margin, as shown in the "bottom" field in Openbox Configuration Manager, resulting in that much bigger of a maximized Opera window, and yet still able to see which partition(s) is/are mounted.
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technosaurus

Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 3843
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 18:45 Post subject:
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they are just the regular drive icons with /usr/share/mini-icons/mini-{red,green}ball pasted on
...you are saying that you want your balls to hang low
maybe better than that would be to have unmounted drives faded out and mounted icons bright and crisp - then it would be apparent for any position
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plankenstein

Joined: 15 Nov 2008 Posts: 118 Location: Arkansas, USA
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 18:51 Post subject:
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Hey techno! I LIKE that idea . I think it would look really nice and fixes this issue no matter what WM you use.
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Official Dog Handler

Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 9847 Location: Arizona USA
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 20:19 Post subject:
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Or change color from restful blue to throbbing hot pink! (Just kidding. )
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technosaurus

Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 3843
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 20:32 Post subject:
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here is what simply applying a grey-scale filter looks - it takes like 10 seconds in mtpaint
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Sit Heel Speak

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 20:46 Post subject:
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Greyscaling them might not work in the case where they're already transparent or translucent, i.e. ghostly, such as in Luci
Remember to distinguish the home partition from other mounted partitions.
Hey, t, while you're here...
I have just used my Clipper script to build an automated buildscript for Catalyst (fglrx) .pet's.
Before I unleash several Catalyst .pets on the world, I need a 5-second evolutionary lesson on what the buildscript should split off into the DEV .pet.
The .c files?
The .h files?
The .o files?
The .cmd files?
The entirety of /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/?
What else?
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jemimah

Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 4309 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 20:57 Post subject:
Re: Screen captures showing difference in "mounted" indicator |
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| Sit Heel Speak wrote: | | sheer idio--er, I mean "mom-friendliness" |
Hey, it's fine to imply that idiots are incompetent, but insinuating such about Moms-in-general is uncool. Please help make the world a safe and welcoming place for nerd-grrrls.
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Sit Heel Speak

Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 2595 Location: downwind
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 21:22 Post subject:
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Astonishing...if you google "Traditions cigarettes" you would get no clue that the Squaxin Tribe is manufacturing them...but they do...here is a scan of the front and back of the pack...
http://i51.tinypic.com/2q15ldu.png
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technosaurus

Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 3843
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Posted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 23:28 Post subject:
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| Sit Heel Speak wrote: | Before I unleash several Catalyst .pets on the world, I need a 5-second evolutionary lesson on what the buildscript should split off into the DEV .pet.
The .{c,h,o,cmd} files?
The entirety of /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/?
What else? |
if you look in the new2dir script it should be fairly clear, but .o files are only an intermediate step 99.9% of the time (they either end up linked into a static or shared library or a binary ) make install _shouldn't_ actually install them ... same for .c files (you can pretty much ignore all the files in your source tree that get picked up too)
For the kernel modules, I'm not sure. I bought my hardware planning to run linux on it, so I've never needed to build extra modules ... look inside a similar existing pet (note the kernel version number in lib modules though)
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amigo
Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 1759
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Posted: Thu 18 Nov 2010, 05:45 Post subject:
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SHS, generally, the devel files are composed of:
1. header files usually: *.h, but sometimes *.hh or other for C++ stuff
2. static libraries: *.a files
3. libtool files which go with above static libs: *.la files
4. pkg-config files: *.pc
5. sometimes aclocal files or directory
It might be helpful to examine a few typical binary deb or rpm packages alongside their *-devel counterparts to see how they are split.
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