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playdayz


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 13:36    Post subject:  

The latest on the progress towards Lucid Puppy 5.2

Since luci-233, we have a final from shinobar on the firstrun dialog; we have a new wmswitcher with a trick feature, and we have a late beta Quickpet. Plus, we have Pidgin replacing ayttm. There are two changes recommended by shinobar for touchpad configuration. There are some small things also. That is quite a lot for a luci-233 that was only released 4 days ago.

All of the pieces are falling into place. In fact, those *are* all the pieces!!!

One thing. I still would like to hear pluses and minuses, or opinions, about grub4dos versus the traditional grub. I will be asking 01micko and WhoDo whose opinions will carry great weight as always.

We have gotten some great help in the development of Lucid 5.2. I have been thinking of some new titles.

Chief Developer, of course, 01micko
Honored Developer - Shinobar
Crucial Developers - Iguleder and dejan555
Lobster's favorite developer - smil99
The ta-ta developers - tasmod and tazoc (see why I had to check the names)

And there are more, I am checking to spell the names correctly Wink

The last two versions of Woof have some problem--or I have some problem--the builds will not boot correctly. So instead of waiting, I will incorporate the new items from the top of this message and try to post luci-234 by this evening. Thank you all.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 15:05    Post subject:  

Having the same problems on Zen Puppy 005, maybe one of the last puppies I'll ever make Crying or Very sad

I guess now it's time to help Barry squash bugs so we can keep rushing forward Smile

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 17:22    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
One thing. I still would like to hear pluses and minuses, or opinions, about grub4dos versus the traditional grub.
I am certainly no expert so other than using it I have no technical input but since Barry put Grub4Dos into quirky I switched to it and found it extremely easy to use no matter what FS I am using (at least it hasn't mattered so far). It just seems to work. I am a fan. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 17:34    Post subject:  

234 version. First impression is wow or vau ( in finnish ).
First run dialog works fine. Finnish keyboard ok. Intel graphics driver ok. Wary094 freezed even with the newer intel driver package.
Touchpad movement is right and tap to click is enabled straight.
Alsaconf did find my sound card.
And touchpad response is fine. Does not make erratic mistakes when my palm is resting in it when writing.
All my 4 cores are found and are under ondemand new scaling addition. Is it tazoc`s or Iguleder`s ?
Nothing strange in this quick test.

My greetings to the great developer team. This will be my next must have puppy or the next stable version at least.

I have also used grub4dos from the beginning, well at least as long as I have used grub. Works fine and shinobar`s grub4dosconfig is fine tool for it.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 18:03    Post subject:  

Yes, luci-234 is posted in the first message of this thread.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 18:04    Post subject:  

Quote:
maybe one of the last puppies I'll ever make


Why the heck is that?
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 18:28    Post subject:  

Iguleder wrote:
maybe one of the last puppies I'll ever make Crying or Very sad


I hope not, I spend many happy hours downloading and using your creations and have learnt lots from them as well.

234 downloaded and running totaly on a EXT4 usb stick looking very good. now time for the hard drives

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 18:39    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of 234 on the old P3 test box.Everything working fine on initial boot,as expected.
The firewall status being include on the taskbar is a nice touch, Smile

Even though I don't use it,i guess it wouldn't hurt to do like Barry K did and include both Grub4Dos and legacy Grub.A choice never hurts.

On to some more testing......
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 18:45    Post subject:  

James C wrote:

The firewall status being include on the taskbar is a nice touch, Smile


Still unable to switch it off in 234.

Everything else is looking very fine indeed Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 19:01    Post subject:  

Brown Mouse wrote:
James C wrote:

The firewall status being include on the taskbar is a nice touch, Smile


Still unable to switch it off in 234.

Everything else is looking very fine indeed Very Happy


Can't turn it off here either.
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Stripe

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 19:14    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
Brown Mouse wrote:
James C wrote:

The firewall status being include on the taskbar is a nice touch, Smile


Still unable to switch it off in 234.

Everything else is looking very fine indeed Very Happy


Can't turn it off here either.


Works for me with a frugal install on a usb, just right click on the taskbar icon and pick quit

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 20:01    Post subject:  

Stripe wrote:
James C wrote:
Brown Mouse wrote:
James C wrote:

The firewall status being include on the taskbar is a nice touch, Smile


Still unable to switch it off in 234.

Everything else is looking very fine indeed Very Happy


Can't turn it off here either.


Works for me with a frugal install on a usb, just right click on the taskbar icon and pick quit

Stripe


Picking 'Quit' removes the icon.It doesn't switch the firewall off.The'Firewall On/Off'tab is meant to do that.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 20:15    Post subject: Re: Lucid Puppy 5.2 Base Luci-23 New Version OCT 30
Subject description: The Most Easily Customized Puppy
 

playdayz wrote:
Here is luci-234. Almost all of the pieces are in place now!
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Caption reads Lucid Puppy 5.2 Base Base Luci-23 New Version OCT 30

Did You mean for this to read Luci-234 New Version OCT 30 ?

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 20:24    Post subject: Re: Lucid Puppy 5.2 Base Luci-23 New Version OCT 30
Subject description: The Most Easily Customized Puppy
 

playdayz wrote:
Here is luci-234. Almost all of the pieces are in place now!

The Most Easily Customized Puppy is now even easier

In addition to Quickpet and a well-stocked Puppy Package Manager

A one-stop Firstrun Dialog (shinobar) that can set all options on one screen

SFS-getter (01micko)- one-click (or two) and Open Office, VLC, Gimp, and others, are ready to go--and don’t use any Puppy memory

A nice collection of backgrounds (Menu -> Desktop Settings -> Nathan Wallpaper Setter)

(I am exploring what a background can be, so if you don't like the default, please remember, Menu -> Desktop Settings -> Nathan Wallpaper Setter)

Several new gtk themes (Menu -> Desktop Setting -> Chtheme GTK Theme Chooser - Try the default background with Crux--it’s excessive) And don't forget the Openbox themes (Menu -> Desktop Settings -> Openbox window manager config--there's one named Anchos that goes well with Crux).

A second window manager installed (JWM--WhoDo) and three more tested and configured for luci-234/Lucid 5.2 (Fluxbox, Icewm, XFCE).

Wmswitcher Menu -> Desktop Settings -> wmswitcher) can associate different backgrounds with each window manager

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Wow I had to laugh at such a bold statement "The Most Easily Customized Puppy[/b] is now even easier" The you said
"Menu -> Desktop Settings -> Nathan Wallpaper Setter"
"Menu -> Desktop Settings -> [b]Openbox window manager config"
well that's a bit to remember, lol ummm by the way if you ever booted 2.14X for the past 4+ months, It has a little Icon on the DESKTOP called Themes, clicking that will open a gui to set Metacity/Xfce-panel, Backgrounds and Gtk2, Metacity has like 17 themes and Gtk2 has 25 themes, I think that's a bit easier to switch to than having to go to the menu, 2.14X comes with Jwm and metacity which has its own Window manager switcher like the first one ever that puppy had when I built it for puppy 432 . It also has a icewm pet package and soon will have lxpanel/metacity. I know that puppy 5 does have a few improvements but its not the bees knees of Puppy Linux themes/Window managers setters. By the way 2.14X also has the nicest Cups and Puppy package manager GUI also. Next time maybe with a little less bragging and more truth might go a long way.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 20:36    Post subject: Refresh rate  

Sorry playdauz the updated firstrun-1.1 to be late for the Luci-234.
The update is for some hardware get black screen with wrong refresh rate.
The one in Luci-234, firstrun-1.0 avoid that but restarting X reverts the refresh rate and gets black screen (with some hardware).

But anyway bigpup proposed attractive solution. Calling for opinion from you all.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60712&start=115

It is not only limited with the firstrun(Parsonalize Settings) but relates with xorgwizard and etc.
The problem is xrandr nor monitor probe does not correctly reports the available refresh rate.

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