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shinobar


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Oct 2010, 19:34    Post_subject: Re: http://bkhome.org/blog/  

gcmartin wrote:
Did you see this note from Barry about Jemimah's work.
http://bkhome.org/blog/

Thanks. I am always checking Barry's Blog and also interesting with Jemimah's works.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Oct 2010, 11:55    Post_subject: wacom tablet  

Forum member charlie6 has been able to get his wacom tablet to
work with lupq after a lot of work and experimentation.

Read this page:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=1086522652&t=16491&start=135

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I wrote a Tutorial on how to split mp3 files using mp3splt
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See this page
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Oct 2010, 14:15    Post_subject: mtpaint fix  

The maintainer of mtpaint has warned that recent versions
of mtpaint don't create a preference file in /root.

This means that preferences won't be saved.

So check if file exists and if it doesn't you must create yourself.

Code:
touch ~/.mtpaint


You can test by setting a new preference , quit and restart mtpaint.
For instance I like to zoom with the scroll wheel which is a preference.

Version 3.34.56 will fix the problem in future.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Oct 2010, 13:21    Post_subject: QuickSET LIveCD with GRUB opening  

@Shinobar
I have already commended your achievement with GRUB on the LiveCD is a very creative piece of work.

I run a LiveCD/LiveDVD version of your system. And, it is refreshing to have that. It has helped me see how to extend it for other uses in my future.

I am enclosing a menu.lst that you "may" want to consider, if its applicable to your efforts.
Code:
# This is Puppy LiveCD menu.lst file.
#
# The old install method of booting via the stage-files has been removed.
#
# You may install GRLDR boot strap code to MBR with the
# bootlace.com utility under DOS/Win9x/Linux.
#
#This menu presents boot options for your Puppy LiveCD or your local HDD
#
# GRUB boot errors you may encounter are described at
# http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html#SEC104

#color black/cyan black/yelow white/black yellow/black
splashimage=/splash.xpm
#forground=FFFF00
#background=000088
default 0
timeout 10

# Boot Pupppy normally allow it to search LiveCD/HDD for prior session files
title Lucid Puppy Linux Quickset edition 5.1.1
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd i915.modeset=1  video=640x480
initrd /initrd.gz

title Puppy safe mode\nStart puppy with safety boot options(without X)\nTry 'xorgwizard' after bootup succeed to start graphic mode.
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd pfix=ram,nox acpi=off apm=off nosmp noapic nodma nopcmcia i915.modeset=1  video=640x480
initrd /initrd.gz

# Boot Pupppy DIRECTLY into RAM. Do NOT load prior Puppy sessions on CD/HDD
title Puppy on RAM only\nRun totally in RAM, ignore saved sessions(puppy pfix=ram)
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd pfix=ram i915.modeset=1  video=640x480
initrd /initrd.gz

# Do NOT BOOT LIVECD. Use the PC's default booting process
title Bootup from HDD\nBootup from the master boot record of the hard disk drive
chainloader (hd0)+1

title Windows VISTA\nStart Windows VISTA if installed on HDD
fallback 6
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /bootmgr
chainloader /bootmgr

title Windows NT/2K/XP\nStart Windows NT/2K/XP if installed on HDD
fallback 7
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ntldr
chainloader /ntldr

title Windows 9x/Me\nStart Windows 95/98/Me or MSDOS if installed on HDD
fallback 4
find --set-root /io.sys
chainloader /io.sys

title Grub4Dos commandline\n(GRUB commandline for experts only)
commandline


title Reboot computer
reboot

title Halt computer
halt

# You MAY want to add an additional Partition/HDD alternative to this menu.lst
# title A Linux System on your local HDD
#
# GRUB boot errors you may encounter are described at
# http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html#SEC104
#

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Oct 2010, 23:08    Post_subject: forgets the internet connection?  

A few reports given in the forum such as 'The Puppy forgets the internet connection'.
It means one can connect once but after the re-boot PC, it loose the connection.

I like to narrow down the discussion here on the Network Wizard, built in LupQ.

The connection settings are saved under /etc/network-wizard.
If you can find the files containing the machine address of your interface, the LupQ is not forgeting your settings.
But it may fail automatic connection. Or the connection is unstable.

One of the case, with wireless LAN, the Puppy connect to the strange IP.
It can be 169.254.xxx.xxx or somewhere neighbour LAN.
You can check the IP from the 'IPInfo network information' under 'System' menu.

You may be able to get better driver for your interface.
Note that the driver is the kernel specific.
Check the topic Extras for Puppy 5.1 with 2.6.33.2 kernel

If the LupQ fails automatic connection after re-boot,
try right-click the 'Connect' icon on the desktop and select 'Autoconnect'.
If it can connect, there may be a chance to fix the problem.

If it is only the timing issue, you can elongate the timeout waiting the interface ready.
Open the file '/etc/rc.d/rc.network' with geany.
You can find at line 341:
Code:
    MAXWAIT=12

Means the timeout is 12 seconds. You can change it with larger number.

If this change lead you success, please report as the reply.

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Joe Jasniewski

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Oct 2010, 17:41    Post_subject: Experience between 5.1.1 and 4.3.1 regarding wireless...  

Hello, I was informed that this may be better thread to voice my issue.

Running on Toshiba 3500, when I use pup 4.3.1 my embedded wireless interface is found immediately. Driver used is "orinoco_cs". Always work after initial setup and remain absolutely stable through many machine power cycles.

Lupo OR lupq gives much difficulty with this. First it say "No modules found" Well I know this is not true, so I load orinoco_cs manually. Sometimes actually finds module, but most times computer work for a few seconds and then _still_ say "No modules found". Always lose setup and have to redo connection wizard on reboot! Never one time in 4.3.1...

What changed in this area between pup 4.3.1 and 5.1.1? I would love it to be just simple maxwait variable change, but I dont notice 4.3.1 taking any long delays to recognize wireless and setup properly. It's pretty much ready to go by the time the OS is finished coming up.

Is there a substitute for standard puppy wireless setup wizard which can be used to get around the issue? I certainly dont know enough about Linux to even ask that question in a legitimate way.

Thanks and best regards,

Joe Jasniewski
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Oct 2010, 19:08    Post_subject: Re: Experience between 5.1.1 and 4.3.1 regarding wireless...  

Joe, i am afraid i cannot give you the solution right now but give you some information background.
Joe Jasniewski wrote:
What changed in this area between pup 4.3.1 and 5.1.1? I would love it to be just simple maxwait variable change, but I dont notice 4.3.1 taking any long delays to recognize wireless and setup properly. It's pretty much ready to go by the time the OS is finished coming up.

Seems not the timing issue...
Puppy-431 and LupQ/Lupu-511 have different kernel that is different driver.
The driver is specific with the kernel and not always the newer the better.

If you can find better driver for the kernel LupQ-511 has, 2.6.33.2 kernel, the thing to be different.
Load the module manually typing 'modprobe orinoco_cs', or 'rmmod orinoco_cs' then 'modprobe orinoco_cs'.
See the message by typing 'dmesg'.

If your manual loading and connection setting success, you can auto-load at boot
registering the module to load using bootmanager.
(rmmod the module before running bootmanager.)

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yordanj94

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Posts: 77
Location: Bulgaria

PostPosted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 06:10    Post_subject: Pwireless2  

Hi Shinobar.

I had the same problem with my wireless.

Don't know what's the reason for that but when i did as we call in Bulgaria some try-mistake, try-mistake the result was that Lupq works well with "pwireless-0.8.4.pet", but not so well with "Pwireless2".

Hope this will you in some way.

Best regards.

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nooby

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Oct 2010, 13:57    Post_subject:  

I am not intelligent enough to use LupQ on the Acer, it worked good on the Packard Bell but fail to boot and have many other issues on the Acer so I chose lup234 instead on Acer.

old text

First it did not want to boot and me remembered Shinobar had the i915 thing so me added that one and it booted and me tested to install wine and spotify worked and then me installed both chrome and thunderBird

And now I have no idea how I tell the mail icon to use TB isntead of starting up midori?

Maybe one have to activate TB first and even reboot?

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PostPosted: Wed 03 Nov 2010, 17:53    Post_subject: modified version of mtpaint  

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As previously mentioned I have had problems with mtpaint
responding properly to the pressure of stylus using wacom tablet.
I received a modified version of mtpaint 3.34.56 from the
maintainer Dimitri Groshev that was compiled in Slack Linux.
He made some quick changes in the method used for mouse position
in the mtpaint window and he succeeded. Very Happy No problems
now in mtpaint's pressure sensitivity.


He asked me to test it. It works well in lupq except that the Wacom
tablet setup is not permanent i.e. the tablet settings have to be reset in
mtpaint preferences each time that mtpaint is launched.
This takes only a few seconds but is irritating.

Hopefully this can be fixed.

If you want to try out this application, here's
a download site

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-ebf11bdd.html

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Nov 2010, 13:19    Post_subject:  

I tested again with a new download of lupq511 and it went directly to kernel panic while lupu235 worked and puppy studio 3.1 non-realtime worked but pstudio 31 with runtime did go to panic but Dpup 09 works.

So would appreciate if someone give a clue on what is the difference?

Is it the kernels that differ and that explain why it goes to panic?

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PostPosted: Fri 05 Nov 2010, 11:19    Post_subject:  

I love this puplet.. With a few tweaks Wink I have LupQ511

(I add Clearlooks GTK theme and the blue icon theme).. Much nicer imho Smile

Anyway... I love this but am having a few problems..

I'm having some issues with a frugal install to NTFS (windows partition) hard drive on two machines!

I'd like to use the exe installer (or any other recommended method) to add a frugal install to my XP partition - for easy dual boot..

I know the exe method is not good, but I was lazy..

Issue 1: On my PC I have the frugal install on the NTFS HD partition and want to put the savefile on a FAT partition, USB stick..

On my PC, The "Lin n Win" method works fine, puppy boots. However, the save file is not being found.. although I know it is being created and filled correctly. I can't find anything that fixes this!

I tried various locations for the save file, even making copies, and no go!

Issue 2: On my Eee PC (1000HA), using the exe installer, I can't even boot LupQ - I get an error message about uncompression, when initrd.gz is being uncompressed (I think)..

Any anyone have any ideas of known issues or fixes? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Nov 2010, 01:36    Post_subject: kernel panic  

nooby wrote:
I tested again with a new download of lupq511 and it went directly to kernel panic while lupu235 worked and puppy studio 3.1 non-realtime worked but pstudio 31 with runtime did go to panic but Dpup 09 works.

Try 'pfix=ram' or 'safe mode'.
If no problem with it, and the problem is the lupqsave, boot with 'pfix=fsck'.
If the lupqsave is not fixed, abort it and make new lupqsave from 'pfix=ram' or 'safe mode'.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Nov 2010, 02:18    Post_subject: savefile on another partition  

sc0ttman wrote:
Issue 1: On my PC I have the frugal install on the NTFS HD partition and want to put the savefile on a FAT partition, USB stick..

On my PC, The "Lin n Win" method works fine, puppy boots. However, the save file is not being found.. although I know it is being created and filled correctly. I can't find anything that fixes this!

I tried various locations for the save file, even making copies, and no go!

If you are using grub4dos, find menu.lst at /mnt/dsa1 or /mnt/home.
Edit the menu.lst by the text editer(geany).
Find the next entry ('Puppy-Linux-511' is the folder name. Yours may be different name).
Code:
title lupq-511 on Windows
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Puppy-Linux-511/initrd.gz
  kernel /Puppy-Linux-511/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=Puppy-Linux-511
  initrd /Puppy-Linux-511/initrd.gz

Remove the 'pmedia' and 'psubdir' options. That is:
Code:
title lupq-511 on Windows
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Puppy-Linux-511/initrd.gz
  kernel /Puppy-Linux-511/vmlinuz
  initrd /Puppy-Linux-511/initrd.gz

The 'pmedia' and 'psubdir' options restrict the search scope for the savefile.

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Nov 2010, 02:32    Post_subject: exe installer  

sc0ttman wrote:
Issue 2: On my Eee PC (1000HA), using the exe installer, I can't even boot LupQ - I get an error message about uncompression, when initrd.gz is being uncompressed (I think)..

Do you mean the Lucid-Puppy-Quickset-edition-511-Installer.exe?
Try re-install.

Uninstall from the 'All program' menu on the Windows. You can find the Lucid-Puppy-Quickset-edition uninstaller.

Clean up the drive 'C:'. Recommended 640MB free space, 200MB at least.
Run deflag the drive 'C:'. It may take long long time, can be a whole night.

Donload the Lucid-Puppy-Quickset-edition-511-Installer.exe again.
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/lupq/
md5checksum: 6c7dba6b5dfe49a09ee785ce3dc22b36.
Run the installer again.

If you can boot up LupQ-511, you can delete the installer exe.

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