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#41 Post by playdayz »

Once installed, it appears as part of the right-click menu on a xxx.sfs. Is this what you are looking for?
Maybe scsijon, Thanks for mentioning it. That is the third different approach we have found--so I will take a close look. Thanks again.

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#42 Post by James C »

Grabbed an old Windows 98 box off the shelf tonight.....already tried both kernel versions of Wary and both versions of Squeeze.Might as well try this too. :)

Luci-231 live pfix=ram in this powerful 433 mhz Celeron box. Initial boot had working internet and sound.........and a totally distorted display.Did the old three fingered salute and got back to xorgwizard,reset the resolution to 1024x768x16 and working fine now.
Just for the record,none of the five versions I've tried would work at my usual 1024x768x24.



# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 231

Chip description:
oem: ATI MACH64

Driver used by Xorg:
mach64

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 16 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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-Computer-
Processor : Celeron (Mendocino)
Memory : 385MB (112MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.23
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu Oct 14 22:30:13 2010
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI


-Processor-
Name : Celeron (Mendocino)
Family, model, stepping : 6, 6, 5 (Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron)
Vendor : Intel
-Configuration-
Cache Size : 128kb
Frequency : 434.30MHz
BogoMIPS : 868.60
Byte Order : Little Endian

Time for a break and then I'll do a fresh install on the old P3 test box. :)

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#43 Post by James C »

Fresh frugal install of Luci-231 on the old P3 test box.

Initial boot had working internet,sound and the correct screen resolution.Installed Xorg-High and Firefox.


# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 231

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (GMCH) Graphics Memory Controller Hub
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


# glxgears

1413 frames in 5.0 seconds
1395 frames in 5.0 seconds
2132 frames in 5.0 seconds
2576 frames in 5.0 seconds
3631 frames in 5.0 seconds
2992 frames in 5.0 seconds
3594 frames in 5.0 seconds
3785 frames in 5.0 seconds
3924 frames in 5.0 seconds
3752 frames in 5.0 seconds
3115 frames in 5.0 seconds
3079 frames in 5.0 seconds
2806 frames in 5.0 seconds
2941 frames in 5.0 seconds
3050 frames in 5.0 seconds
1821 frames in 5.0 seconds
1943 frames in 5.0 seconds
1802 frames in 5.0 seconds
2708 frames in 5.0 seconds
3191 frames in 5.0 seconds
2752 frames in 5.0 seconds
3469 frames in 5.0 seconds
3561 frames in 5.0 seconds


-Computer
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 254MB (118MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.23
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri Oct 15 00:08:53 2010
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI i810E 20050821 x86/MMX/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH

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#44 Post by James C »

Didn't change the default language,or anything actually, and here is my Quickpet.....

EDIT: Opened Quickpet again and now it's correct.... :lol:
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#45 Post by Lobster »

Been happily using Luci 230 (with the 4 Firefox beta) for a few days. So very happy to try 2.3.1
In fact the only problem in the Firefox beta was not being able to easily use add ons - feature is coming . . .

First of all the transition to openbox from JWM seemed seamless.
What will happen with the JWM/Icewm switcher? Do we have or require other window managers
in the base 5.2?
Using Openbox must have involved some serious work.

I did get the double menubar settings enclosed (after trying many features - maybe someone can confirm what starts it off )
Restarting x cured it.

I have updated the 5.2 Lucid Maverick wiki page (I actually think of it as Luci Meerkat)
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy52

I used Quickpet to successfully install xorg drivers and google earth

Larry you have incorporated shinobars efforts very well.
All credit to both of you working together.

Pmusic has weird box text after it in the menus - see graphic attached
- reported this before - it is to do with the font settings

All seems on track 8)
Hope to hear how others get on :)
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Multimedia issues

#46 Post by gjuhasz »

playdayz wrote:There is a luci-231 posted.
1. Performance of Openbox is only a bit worse than of JWM: glxgears show only 2-3% drop. It's OK, most of the users can live with that.

2. Multimedia menu is weird: instead of drilling down to the third level, it opens the second level menu item again and again. See the attached picture.

3. A 100-year-old problem :( Mobile phone videos still don't play sound out-of-the-box in Luci/Lupu series. Same situation in 231. To hear sound of mobile videos, I always up(down?)grade the built-in mplayer with mplayer-post-1.0rc3-svn-31792-i486.pet. I really don't understand why a weak version keeps being included in all the Lupus. Just because they are glued to Ubuntu? Anyway, the workaround exists... For lazy users, silence is golden :)
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#47 Post by Lobster »

Still having to reconnect DHCP ethernet after rebooting (intermittent)
It recognizes but is not permanent - I think an explanation of the software used - already explained.
Have only ever had this in Lucid series.

Installed java from quickpet but did not take :cry: also tried an SFS - still no java
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Re: Multimedia issues

#48 Post by jpeps »

gjuhasz wrote:
playdayz wrote:There is a luci-231 posted.
1. Performance of Openbox is only a bit worse than of JWM: glxgears show only 2-3% drop. It's OK, most of the users can live with that.
Recommend JWM as a simple option.

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#49 Post by playdayz »

What will happen with the JWM/Icewm switcher? Do we have or require other window managers
in the base 5.2?
Using Openbox must have involved some serious work.
jwm is still there. Exit to a prompt and enter 'xwin jwm' JWM will remain. I am hoping we could replace Icewm with Fluxbox (which is compositable) and have compiz as an option. Openbox/fbpanel added almost no size.

Actually Barry had done most of the work to get Openbox and fbpanel working. I would have used lxpanel, except Barry had already done the configuring for fbpanel.
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#50 Post by playdayz »

giuhasz and Lobster

Double menu bar and problem with multimedia menu.

Were these updates or fresh installs? Please try with pfix=ram.

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#51 Post by Lobster »

fresh install using puppy pfix=ram - running from DVD . . . that is what I used
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#52 Post by playdayz »

Lobster, did it boot that way? I can't recreate it yet.

I also cannot recreate the misbehavior of the Multimedia menu.

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A 100-year-old problem Sad Mobile phone videos still don't play sound out-of-the-box in Luci/Lupu series. Same situation in 231. To hear sound of mobile videos, I always up(down?)grade the built-in mplayer with mplayer-post-1.0rc3-svn-31792-i486.pet. I really don't understand why a weak version keeps being included in all the Lupus. Just because they are glued to Ubuntu? Anyway, the workaround exists... For lazy users, silence is golden
Yes, this bothers me. And yes, it is the ubuntu mplayer. Could you compare and see if there is any library left out? There are performance tweaks to this mplayer that would not probably be present in others--but yes not playing the mobile phone is not good performance.

In particular, this mplayer contains the i686 libraries for higher performance on most newer computers. But where is the mplayer you mention? I will investigate. And where can I get mobile phone samples please? Thanks.

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#53 Post by Lobster »

playdayz wrote:Lobster, did it boot that way?
No it did not - let me start again and see if I can recreate

update - could not recreate -maybe someone else will come across the condition
good news Puppy TV is fullscreen

The double click title bar for maximizing
is set to 200 ms - practically impossible
300ms or more is more usable
(right click on desktop obconfig/mouse)
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Multimedia menu problem - step-by-step

#54 Post by gjuhasz »

playdayz wrote:I also cannot recreate the misbehavior of the Multimedia menu.
Note that I am not at home now - I use VirtualBox under wndws. Will try to reproduce it using real machine(s) at home this evening.

What I see in VirtualBox, step-by-step:

1. Boot Luci-231 from the ISO, pfix=ram (boots to 800x600)
2. Don't deal with any settings, click OK on the (very nice!!!) welcome and personalize dialogs - simply saying click OK on anything that pops up.
3. Right-click on the screen. Select Multimedia (from the 1st level menu).
4-5. Simply move the cursor left and right over the 2nd level menu header. 2nd level opens again and again. Clicking on the header does not drill down to Level 3 either.

See the attached picture.
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#55 Post by gjuhasz »

playdayz wrote:But where is the mplayer you mention?

Thanks to forum member Patriot, it can be downloaded from here:

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-7a209cf6.html

mplayer svn-31792 (post 1.0rc3) pet package (8.6MB)
Description :
- mplayer (24-July-2010) binary with gui support and dvd-skin.
- includes opencore-AMR & ffmpeg-VP8
- supports ladspa.

More details can be found here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40929
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#56 Post by playdayz »

Java

I just confirmed that Java will work. But they changed it *again*. Dang.

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Mplayer. There is a small problem with patriot's mplayer--it is static with the libraries compiled in. that is Ok of course, but some other programs such as pmusic need those libraries also, so we would have to have "two" versions of them. A solution might be to put it into PPM.

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3. Right-click on the screen. Select Multimedia (from the 1st level menu).
4-5. Simply move the cursor left and right over the 2nd level menu header. 2nd level opens again and again. Clicking on the header does not drill down to Level 3 either.
Got it. I was looking at the wrong menu. Thanks.

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Mobile video samples

#57 Post by gjuhasz »

playdayz wrote:And where can I get mobile phone samples please? Thanks.
Please try this .mp4 video. My daughter has recorded it with a Samsung cellphone.

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-92ea2ec8.html

For example, you can download this .3gp format file:

http://good-3gp-videos.com/viapic/af573 ... b4b5c1.3gp

Sound is OK after the above mentioned mplayer pet installed.

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no synaptics driver

#58 Post by darwinev0lved »

Hi there, tried a fresh frugal install. First up - I really like the locale chooser, everything (almost) booted up just fine on my Samsung laptop. Sound's working, internet's workings. Only thing that isn't, is that it doesn't seem to have loaded the synaptics driver.
I had this problem with the sneak preview too

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 0&start=90

Don't really want to run xorgwizard: kind of undoes all the work that went in to the initial start up windows! :D but do want to be able to click and drag with my touchpad. Ah the dilemma.

Apart from that, all seems good. Will grab the newest java and see if I can get openoffice to play nice

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#59 Post by Jim1911 »

Hi playdayz,

As usual for your latest, a frugal installation of Luci-231 along with many additional applications (OpenOffice, Wbar, Wine, java, Amarok, Bibletime, e-Sword, Eudora OSE 1, Firefox 4 beta 6, and others) is working great.

You may consider adding TazOC's newLHP-sysinfo-0.3.pet. I've attached the report so that you can see info provided which may be very useful if all testers provided the info during development and when troubleshooting problems.

Cheers,
Jim
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#60 Post by playdayz »

Please try this .mp4 video. My daughter has recorded it with a Samsung cellphone.

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-92ea2ec8.html

For example, you can download this .3gp format file:

http://good-3gp-videos.com/viapic/af573 ... b4b5c1.3gp

Sound is OK after the above mentioned mplayer pet installed.
Wooo Whoooo. And now both clips play in luci-231 mplayer. With Sound. The trick was to use the ffmpeg libraries from medibuntu. Thanks.

Only my copy so far ;-)
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