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Lucid Puppy 5.1- A Full-Featured Compact Distro
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Sep 2010, 21:44    Post subject:  

I now see that, cool!

We discovered that we were really close to a fiber trunk here so we got fiber/dsl with essentially unlimited service. We don't subscribe to cable tv or anything like that as whatever we need we can find online - so what we saved there covers a decent internet connection. I guess the next level for us, when we aren't still pinching pennies, is a T1-like level of speed/throughput.

Thanks for the heads-up! I try to read Barry's blog from time to time but things have been hectic here lately. Too many plates spinning ...

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 14:12    Post subject:  

Quote:
Posted on 2 Oct 2010, 20:31 by BarryK
Re 5.1 links
Yeah, you are not the first person to report that. This matter will have to be raised with 'playdayz', the coordinator of Lucid 5.x, as he created them.


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Posted on 3 Oct 2010, 3:08 by pemasu
5.1 links new location
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-5.1.1/

seems to be new location for those files.


5.10`s two first links in Barry`s blog are dead due to new location.
http://www.bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01756
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 15:23    Post subject:
Subject description: Updating packages seems impossible
 

As stated in the title I can't update any packages on my lucid puppy.

I am under puppy lucid 5.0.1.

I have posted in the 5.0.1 thread, but nobody seemed to be able to give me an answer so I'm turning to you to help me.

My problem is that when I go to quickpet and click update packages it pops a green window which tells me I have to go on the internet page automatically opened to download the updates, and then I have to click on it for the installation.

Alas the web page does not work any more and it tells me
"The Update is now part of the News
- run Quickpet
then News and click on any updates"
which I don't understand in the least.

Somebody told me I had to upgrade to 5.1, but I think I read somewhere that 5.0 branch was still in devellopment.
I would like to avoid having to format my install.

Thank you for your replies !
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 15:46    Post subject:  

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/Lucid_Puppy/

Above link is for pet`s for lucid 5.1.x. Some or most of them might work on 5.0 also. Not sure. Otherwise I dont have anymore much knowledge of 5.0.

Having another luci version in it`s own folder and use subdir in menu.lst would be reasonable. Then you would be using up to date version.
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Oct 2010, 16:09    Post subject:  

I haven't understood your answer well.

Do you advise me of installing the new version of lucid ?
menu.lst is reffering to the grub file ?

Or is there no possibility of using the swiftness of puppy (cause my install is on a live usb key) while keeping the stability of a well-known package manager as aptitude or yum ?

Thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon 04 Oct 2010, 16:26    Post subject:  

Yes, I adviced you to install another, newer 5.1.1 lucid puppy on it`s own folder. Create folder 511 or something on /mnt/home. Dowloand 5.1.1 iso. Click it open. Copy files vmlinuz, initrd.gz and 511.sfs on to that 511 folder: /mnt/home/511.

Of course you need to have made savefile so that /mnt/home will exist.

Direct grub to boot files on that 511 folder.
I use grub4dos. Shinobar`s grub4dosconfig pet will do the menu installing easy.

psubdir=511 boot parameter is essential.

My example menu.lst:
Code:
title Luci511
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Lucic511/initrd.gz
  kernel /Luci511/vmlinuz pmedia=satahd psubdir=Luci511 video=640x480 pfix=fsck resume=/dev/sda7
  initrd /Luci511/initrd.gz
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Oct 2010, 16:00    Post subject:
Subject description: 10/10/10
 

As has been mentioned in the British press 101010 (today's date) in binary notation is equal to 42 in decimal notation.

According to "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" the computer named "Deep Thought" showed the ultimate answer to "Life, the Universe and Everything" is 42.

My venerable desktop computer, named "Jasper" (Just Another Sales Performance Explosion Run) has now provided proof that the ultimate answer is actually closer to 5.1.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Oct 2010, 07:14    Post subject:  

Attached is a pet package for the Ubuntu-Font-Family. Nice solid font.

This font is now used as the default in Maverick Meerkat, but doesn't appear to be available via the PPM in Lucid 511.

To set it as the default font in 511, go to Menu->Desktop->Chtheme and click on the Font button on the lower LHS. You may have to restart X after doing this.

To use as the default web page font in Firefox and Seamonkey, set the Ubuntu font from the Preferences->Content menu as normal.

If you want the Mozilla menus to use this font, you can manually edit userChrome.css in the current profile in your ~/.mozilla folder.
UbuntuFont-1.0.pet
Description 
pet

 Download 
Filename  UbuntuFont-1.0.pet 
Filesize  685.3 KB 
Downloaded  637 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Oct 2010, 09:41    Post subject:  

tronkel wrote:
Attached is a pet package for the Ubuntu-Font-Family. Nice solid font.


Thanks for this, using it in Wary.... nice.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Oct 2010, 11:38    Post subject: Did you post it in "Additional Sssoftware" as well  

tronkel wrote:
Attached is a pet package for the Ubuntu-Font-Family. Nice solid font.

This font is now used as the default in Maverick Meerkat, but doesn't appear to be available via the PPM in Lucid 511.

To set it as the default font in 511, go to Menu->Desktop->Chtheme and click on the Font button on the lower LHS. You may have to restart X after doing this.

To use as the default web page font in Firefox and Seamonkey, set the Ubuntu font from the Preferences->Content menu as normal.

If you want the Mozilla menus to use this font, you can manually edit userChrome.css in the current profile in your ~/.mozilla folder.


Hi Tronkel,

I was wondering of late whether all the additional software that is mentioned in the "projects" posts, are also linked in the "additional siftwar" forum, so that they do not get lost (say for future generations ... grr) ?...
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Oct 2010, 12:06    Post subject:  

nancy reagan wrote:

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so that they do not get lost (say for future generations ... grr) ?...


This is an old problem but an important one. As a project, Puppy Linux has good pet packages spread around all over the place, third-party sites, Murga Forum, Ibiblio, Puppylinux.ca, Wikis, etc. etc. Over the years I have built pets that I have uploaded to places that I've long forgotten and that I can't lay my hands on.

In the case of this UbuntuFont pet, I uploaded it originally to the additional software and pets forum section, but to make sure that Micko and Playdayz get to see it, I ended up putting it in the Puppy Projects section as well - so more confusion! It depends also on the file size as to whether or not its possible to upload it at all to this forum. A link between the two might partially help, but it's not the whole answer.

What is needed is a central pet repository that is available to the whole community and has for example both HTTP ans FTP access. To date, the community has more to do in this area.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Oct 2010, 22:28    Post subject:  

Stupid question here, but where can I find the programs that are controlled by the right side tray icons? I can find the .jwmrc-tray that controls the left side.

Thanks...
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Oct 2010, 11:20    Post subject:  

Those are tray icons, these are applications that are running. Which instead of a normal windows that are shown in the task list/bar they instead have a icon in the section of the tray, for icons.

Most are auto run on start up. To enable/disable/add/remove applications to run on startup look in "/root/Startup/" and "~/root/.xinitrc".

I hope that is understandable.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Oct 2010, 11:29    Post subject: Re: Did you post it in "Additional Sssoftware" as well  

nancy reagan wrote:


Hi Tronkel,

I was wondering of late whether all the additional software that is mentioned in the "projects" posts, are also linked in the "additional siftwar" forum, so that they do not get lost (say for future generations ... grr) ?...


What would be the approximate space and bandwidth requirement for such a host, please?

I *may* be able to offer that resource. There seems very little, other than breaking things and "evangelizing for Puppy", that I otherwise can add to the project.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Oct 2010, 17:31    Post subject:  

Thanks abushcrafter! I get it now! I was mostly wanting this information because the network_tray app does not give me an option to reconnect when sometimes resuming from standby and the wifi network is either disconnected or in a weird state. I found in the source that it probably needs some enhancement to detect that there are no new bytes received after the resume. It thinks that there are bytes received and increments flagactive so that the "reconnect" menu option does not appear.

Maybe Barry will have a look?
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