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NEW GUIDE TO USING WEBCAMS IN PUPPY PLUS COMPILED DRIVERS!
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NickBiker


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Apr 2006, 08:07    Post subject:  NEW GUIDE TO USING WEBCAMS IN PUPPY PLUS COMPILED DRIVERS!  
Hi

I have just finished the first version of my Guide for installing Webcams on puppy - along with ready-compiled drivers tested and working on Puppy.

Go to my web page:

www.moyo.me.uk/pupplinux

Here is a simple guide for various webcams and the drivers for puppy to download.

I am working on a simple DotPup package and script to automate the process.

Let me know if this is of any help/works. If you have a camera that is not listed in my guide, contact me and I will see if I can find a suitable driver etc and get it going!

Good luck!!
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Apr 2006, 08:35    Post subject: We are not worthy  
You are a star!

Many thanks NickBiker I am off to get my Logitech working. I have every hope of success.

Quote:
We are not worthy
We are not worthy


Embarassed sorry I get a little carried away sometimes - will report back Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Apr 2006, 09:02    Post subject: Re: We are not worthy  
Lobster wrote:

I have every hope of success.

Hi
Thanks for the kind words! Check Section 2.2 of my Guide, you need to get your Vendor and ProdID. Hopefully these will match those I have tested in the table given - if not, let me know what these are and I will try to locate a suitable driver!

good luck! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Apr 2006, 10:31    Post subject: space shuttle  
Very nice PDF manual - Did you do it in Abiword?

This is my product info (I hope)
As far as I am aware it is a logitech - it has "space shuttle" written on the cable

Code:
D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=046d ProdID=0840 Rev= 1.00
S:  Product=Camera


first two in your series of commands worked
not the third

but I am hopeful you can help
I am in Puppy2 Alpha 5 incidentally - would that make a difference . . . not sure . . .

Anyway here is what happened:

Code:
sh-3.00# depmod -a               
sh-3.00# modprobe videodev
sh-3.00# modprobe quickcam
modprobe: Can't locate module quickcam


Do I need a different driver?

- I have another challange later - a camera that can be used as a webcam - however that may be too obscure to work with . . . and I would be pleased to get the logitech running . . .

Cool many thanks
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Apr 2006, 11:06    Post subject: USB P/C camera  
Well done Nick,
My camera is a Vimicro corp.

Ver=1.10 class=ff(vend)
Vendor=0ac8 prod. ID 301b rev.=1.0

The shape is like a turtle and is sold over here with other names on the box, so i think the chip is common to many. The shape will upset mr. Lobster. Very Happy

Control panel / usbveiw USB info. can see it is pluged in.

Thank you for your work so far Michael. an eccentric.
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Apr 2006, 11:21    Post subject: Re: space shuttle  
Lobster wrote:
Very nice PDF manual - Did you do it in Abiword?

Thanks - I wrote it in Word (I know, sorry!)
Code:
D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=046d ProdID=0840 Rev= 1.00
S:  Product=Camera

This is a LOGITECH camera, but will NOT work with the drivers I have tested. I have a driver for this camera and have compiled this in Puppy - I will uodate my site soon!
Lobster wrote:

I am in Puppy2 Alpha 5 incidentally - would that make a difference . . . not sure . . .

Did you read Section 1.1?
Check the Kernel version of Puppy usin
Code:
 uname -r


If it is not 2.4.x then none of the drivers will work as they are all specific to that version. Let me know!

I would need to upgrade to the new Puppy this end, and then re-compile everything for a new kernel. I am happy to do this but it will take me some time!
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Apr 2006, 12:17    Post subject: Re: USB P/C camera  
eccentric wrote:
Vendor=0ac8 prod. ID 301b rev.=1.0
The shape is like a turtle and is sold over here with other names on the box

Hi

I have located and compiled the driver for this camera and will post a link on my web site in a few hours. Could you test it for me and let me know?

Please confirm you are running Puppy 1.08, with Kernel 2.4.29 - please type

Code:
uname -r


In console and let me know!
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Apr 2006, 12:28    Post subject:  
I'll try this when i get home tonight. One thing i've notice about your puppy-qc-usb-messenger-1.2.tar.gz is that it has a /lib folder. This lib folder would only persist after a reboot if you are using puppy2 or if you have done a hard drive install.
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Apr 2006, 15:01    Post subject:  
jcoder24 wrote:
I'll try this when i get home tonight. One thing i've notice about your puppy-qc-usb-messenger-1.2.tar.gz is that it has a /lib folder. This lib folder would only persist after a reboot if you are using puppy2 or if you have done a hard drive install.

Hi

You are right the module will not persist in a non-hd installation. I will update the initialisation script to copy the module from /usr (which is persistent) and then copy it to /lib/modules ...

I will create a GetPup package for each as well to make it easier.

Next step will then be a script that autodetects the USB camera, looks up in a smal database the vendor/product and selects the driver, downloads this, tests it etc.... Shocked

Good luck - let me know.
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Apr 2006, 16:10    Post subject:  
Thanks for reply - this is from Puppy2 Alpha 5 - it is the 2.4 kernel

Code:
sh-3.00# uname -r
2.4.31
sh-3.00#


installed the new driver
then got this:

sh-3.00# depmod -a
sh-3.00# modprobe videodev
sh-3.00# modprobe qcam
modprobe: Can't locate module qcam

Smile

awaiting further instructions Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Apr 2006, 00:54    Post subject:  
Well done, Nick!
Next trick is to tackle some of the sensors that have defied other penguin lovers.
You will find that many of these will sign up as Vendor - 0000 and ID = ditto.
I have a Creative with the notorious PD1001 sensor that does this and has not responded so far to any previous suggestions given on the Web.
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Apr 2006, 00:58    Post subject:  
I am testing with an older logitech webcam (vendor:046D product:0870), prob 2 years old. All goes well up until you have to load the drivers for the camera.


depmod -a
modprobe videodev
modprobe qcam
Code:
Apr 12 00:03:54 (none) user.info kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: usb.c: registered new driver quickcam
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: QuickCam USB camera found (driver version QuickCam USB $Date: 2004/07/29 18:12:39 $)
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Kernel:2.4.29 bus:3 class:FF subclass:FF vendor:046D product:0870
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.debug kernel: quickcam [ 0.582440]: poisoning qc in qc_usb_init
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing HDCS-1000/1100: expecting 08, got 70
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing HDCS-1020: expecting 10, got 70
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing PB-0100/0101: expecting 64, got 00
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing VV6410: expecting 19, got 70
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing VV6450: expecting F0, got 70
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: unsupported sensor
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: QuickCam USB camera found (driver version QuickCam USB $Date: 2004/07/29 18:12:39 $)
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Kernel:2.4.29 bus:3 class:FF subclass:FF vendor:046D product:0870
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.debug kernel: quickcam [ 0.589152]: poisoning qc in qc_usb_init
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing HDCS-1000/1100: expecting 08, got 70
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing HDCS-1020: expecting 10, got 70
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing PB-0100/0101: expecting 64, got 00
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing VV6410: expecting 19, got 70
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing VV6450: expecting F0, got 70
Apr 12 00:04:00 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: unsupported sensor


depmod -a
modprobe videodev
modprobe quickcam
Code:
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.debug kernel: quickcam [34.642477]: ----------LOADING QUICKCAM MODULE------------
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.debug kernel: quickcam [34.642498]: struct quickcam size: 3084
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: usb.c: registered new driver quickcam
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: QuickCam USB camera found (driver version QuickCam USB $Date: 2004/07/29 18:12:39 $)
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Kernel:2.4.29 bus:3 class:FF subclass:FF vendor:046D product:0870
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.debug kernel: quickcam [34.642599]: poisoning qc in qc_usb_init
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing HDCS-1000/1100: expecting 08, got 70
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing HDCS-1020: expecting 10, got 70
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing PB-0100/0101: expecting 64, got 00
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing VV6410: expecting 19, got 70
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing VV6450: expecting F0, got 70
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: unsupported sensor
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: QuickCam USB camera found (driver version QuickCam USB $Date: 2004/07/29 18:12:39 $)
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Kernel:2.4.29 bus:3 class:FF subclass:FF vendor:046D product:0870
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.debug kernel: quickcam [34.655087]: poisoning qc in qc_usb_init
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing HDCS-1000/1100: expecting 08, got 70
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing HDCS-1020: expecting 10, got 70
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing PB-0100/0101: expecting 64, got 00
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing VV6410: expecting 19, got 70
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: Probing VV6450: expecting F0, got 70
Apr 12 00:14:34 (none) user.info kernel: quickcam: unsupported sensor
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Apr 2006, 02:05    Post subject:  
Lobster wrote:
I am in Puppy2 Alpha 5 incidentally - would that make a difference

Modules are kernel-specific.
Puppy 1.0.4 - 1.0.8 = kernel 2.4.29
Puppy 2 = kernel 2.4.31

It's great that we have a broad selection of add-on modules to support all manner of exotic hardware out there, but it's worth noting that this collection (including all 17 of my wifi packages) will become redundant with the release of Puppy2.
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PostPosted: Wed 12 Apr 2006, 03:39    Post subject:  
Smile thanks for that temp - will go back to 1.08 and try again

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Apr 2006, 04:11    Post subject:  
tempestuous wrote:
Lobster wrote:
I am in Puppy2 Alpha 5 incidentally - would that make a difference

Modules are kernel-specific.
Puppy 1.0.4 - 1.0.8 = kernel 2.4.29
Puppy 2 = kernel 2.4.31

It's great that we have a broad selection of add-on modules to support all manner of exotic hardware out there, but it's worth noting that this collection (including all 17 of my wifi packages) will become redundant with the release of Puppy2.

Hi!

Is this because they will all be included in Puppy 2?

Although I am sure it is debated here, why is puppy 2 not Kernel 2.6 - it is supposed to be much more efficient?
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