Wow indeed.
Firefox has no such issues at all. Just works.
That is why SM is not a good thing. But sure I leave your thread plugging SM.
This is my last post here okay
What is SeaMonkey and why is it in Puppy
Maybe it's a language thing but you just don't seem to want to accept that Seamonkey and Firefox are the same in this issue. My suggestion of you starting another thread is that so you can better solve why your particular setup is not working for you.nooby wrote:Wow indeed.
Firefox has no such issues at all. Just works.
That is why SM is not a good thing.
I find it very strange that you seem happy to complain but unwilling to resolve the root of your problem (which is not Seamonkey). As far as I know at least two of the versions of Puppy that you have listed as using don't come with Seamonkey 1 and instead have Seamonkey 2. How did you come to have Seamonkey 1? If you installed it yourself but are using a profile from another version then that could explain why yours is broken and yes, Firefox can be broken just the same.
Why on earth do you ask me questions when I promised to not disturb your plugging of SM.
I most likely have Quirky 1.0 I thought me had 1.2 but must have been too hasty when I installed three distros on an old Laptop to come away from Acer not booting each time.
On the PB it does boot each time. But the SM that is on Q 1.0 is the older version. Barry had that one available and I don't trust me know enough to change such things.
LupuQ has many choices. Puppee have Chrome as I remember.
I prefer to use things that works. That is the answer you have to accept from me.
I most likely have Quirky 1.0 I thought me had 1.2 but must have been too hasty when I installed three distros on an old Laptop to come away from Acer not booting each time.
On the PB it does boot each time. But the SM that is on Q 1.0 is the older version. Barry had that one available and I don't trust me know enough to change such things.
LupuQ has many choices. Puppee have Chrome as I remember.
I prefer to use things that works. That is the answer you have to accept from me.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
not an ideal solution though
That's because I am not plugging anything (and I resent your implication) but you are making false criticisms of Seamonkey. The truth is important to me.nooby wrote:Why on earth do you ask me questions when I promised to not disturb your plugging of SM.
I have no problems with what you choose to use but your reasoning is flawed. Your problem was not caused by you using Seamonkey and it was not fixed by you using Firefox. They are the same with regard to this issue. The Seamonkey browser is related to Firefox. It is not a completely different browser like Chrome or Safari.I prefer to use things that works. That is the answer you have to accept from me.
If you don't want to actually fix your issue that's your choice too but don't try and pretend that Seamonkey is flawed on something that it shares with Firefox.
What's more, "The Internet browser at the core of the SeaMonkey suite uses the same rendering engine and application platform as its sibling Mozilla Firefox" .
If you are having a problem with your news website then you should look at your settings first and then complain to the website designers. Noscript should not be a requirement in the first place.
Just a small info point re add-ons. Instead of just clicking the 'add to seamonkey (firefox)' etc link, right click the link and select 'save link target as'. You will be given a default name such as 864578latest.xpi
Rename it as something you understand such as addblock.xpi, and save it to your hard drive. To install, just drag and drop the file into an open seamonkey window. Bingo. This way, you can build a collection of add-ons for future installs.
Rename it as something you understand such as addblock.xpi, and save it to your hard drive. To install, just drag and drop the file into an open seamonkey window. Bingo. This way, you can build a collection of add-ons for future installs.
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Trialing 4.20
Add ons
@Nooby
I have been having similar problems to you recently. I was unable to download or install add ons for Seamonkey. But found last night that my own paranoia was partly to blame.
What I had to do to get things to work was :
Click on "Edit>Preferences"
Then expand the "Advanced" group and click on "Software installation"
Finally make sure that "Allow websites to install extensions and updates" is ticked (checked).
Then click OK to close the preferences window.
After this I am now able to download and install any add ons I wish.
Hope this helps you too.
I have been having similar problems to you recently. I was unable to download or install add ons for Seamonkey. But found last night that my own paranoia was partly to blame.
What I had to do to get things to work was :
Click on "Edit>Preferences"
Then expand the "Advanced" group and click on "Software installation"
Finally make sure that "Allow websites to install extensions and updates" is ticked (checked).
Then click OK to close the preferences window.
After this I am now able to download and install any add ons I wish.
Hope this helps you too.
Linux = Learning through doing :shock: :? :D
The learning curve may be steep but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
You just have to pass the occasional oncoming train to get there.
The learning curve may be steep but there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
You just have to pass the occasional oncoming train to get there.
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gcmartin
Using SeaMonkey's Composer
One of the best WYSIWYG web page composers available.....Especially for Newbies, Startups, and QuickFixes. It is awfully easy to plagarize when needed, too.
See heer: Sites that have SeaMonkey composer content
http://www.neiu.edu/~scs/Documentation/ ... ebpage.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcaYsG2nYqU
See heer: Sites that have SeaMonkey composer content
http://www.neiu.edu/~scs/Documentation/ ... ebpage.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcaYsG2nYqU
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seamonkey is the best
Hi
Im voicing my opinion that seamonkey is really good and its the best browser for puppy.
Version 2 seems every bit as good as the other browsers but just easier to install java on, just one symlink is all ive ever needed to get java working.
before lupu seamonkey was already intergrated into puppy as the default browser but even with lupus quickpet feature i still reccomend to people to install seamonkey.
also seamonkey is more traditional in puppy distros and it makes me feel good.
puppy isnt puppy without seamonkey its a burning dog.
monkeys swimming in saline fluid just seem more peacefull than burning kainines or a fat lady screeching or shining silver metal (seamonkey vs firefox, opera and chrome)
if i had my way all puppys would have seamonkeys in them
you can flame me on irc if you dont agree
sickgut
Im voicing my opinion that seamonkey is really good and its the best browser for puppy.
Version 2 seems every bit as good as the other browsers but just easier to install java on, just one symlink is all ive ever needed to get java working.
before lupu seamonkey was already intergrated into puppy as the default browser but even with lupus quickpet feature i still reccomend to people to install seamonkey.
also seamonkey is more traditional in puppy distros and it makes me feel good.
puppy isnt puppy without seamonkey its a burning dog.
monkeys swimming in saline fluid just seem more peacefull than burning kainines or a fat lady screeching or shining silver metal (seamonkey vs firefox, opera and chrome)
if i had my way all puppys would have seamonkeys in them
you can flame me on irc if you dont agree
sickgut
I'm surprised to read that SeaMonkey crash...
I use No Script add-on on the SeaMonkey2.0.6 (Quickpet) on LuPu501, and sometimes the page don't download complete, but this is a desired behavior (actually that is the main reason to use this add-on).
No Script, running under the mentioned conditions, never make SeaMonkey crash on this PC
...Repeat, I'm surprised...
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thank you, gcmartin, for this thread.
There is always something to learn (not only for newbees)
There is always something to learn (not only for newbees)
thank you, DaveSRename it as something you understand such as addblock.xpi, and save it to your hard drive. To install, just drag and drop the file into an open seamonkey window. Bingo. This way, you can build a collection of add-ons for future installs.
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gcmartin
Centralize SeaMonkey Add-ONs....Very Good Idea
I very much appreciate the post here to use the download feature for SeaMonkey add-ons.
Reason: I run/support LANs that have multiple machines on it. Using this approach, I have made a "central" library that I download the SeaMonkey add-ons into. Now, I just send notices out to everyone to drag and drop from the central library to their SeaMonkeys. Cuts down on the WAN traffic when that add-ons are local on the LAN.
Even though this can be useful for any product that uses add-ons, it is useful, here, for SM.
Again, thanks fot this suggestion!
P.S. Here's a list of someone else's Must-Have Add-on favorites
Reason: I run/support LANs that have multiple machines on it. Using this approach, I have made a "central" library that I download the SeaMonkey add-ons into. Now, I just send notices out to everyone to drag and drop from the central library to their SeaMonkeys. Cuts down on the WAN traffic when that add-ons are local on the LAN.
Even though this can be useful for any product that uses add-ons, it is useful, here, for SM.
Again, thanks fot this suggestion!
P.S. Here's a list of someone else's Must-Have Add-on favorites
Seamonkey 2.1 Alpha 3
I have been using Seamonkey 2.1 alpha 3 for a week or so now. No crashes, no bugs. In fact, it seems faster, renders better, and now can use Personas like Firefox. Bookmarks can also be shared with Firefox.
I have been using it in Lucid 5.1.1. If you want to give it a try, proceed as follows:
Download the .tar.bz2 file from here http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.1a3
Click on the file, and xarchive will load. Use this to extract the program, just follow the onscreen prompts. It will extract into a folder called seamonkey.
What you do next will depend on which browser you have downloaded previously in Lucid. A safe option is to move the seamonkey directory in to /root/ When you have done that, open the directory and click on the seamonkey file. Seamonkey 2.1 alpha should load just fine.
Naturally, that is NOT what I did. I had Seamonkey 2.0.5 installed as my default browser. It was installed in /usr/lib/seamonkey2
I just went in like a nutcase, deleted all the files in /usr/lib/seamonkey2, and put all the files from the seamonkey alfa directory in there instead. It all worked just fine, including the menu entry
If you want to try that but want to be more cautious, rename /usr/lib/seamonkey2 to seamonkeyold or somesuch, create a NEW /usr/lib/seamonkey2, and drop the alpha files in there. That way, you can always reverse the process.
Check out personas here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/personas/
I have been using Seamonkey 2.1 alpha 3 for a week or so now. No crashes, no bugs. In fact, it seems faster, renders better, and now can use Personas like Firefox. Bookmarks can also be shared with Firefox.
I have been using it in Lucid 5.1.1. If you want to give it a try, proceed as follows:
Download the .tar.bz2 file from here http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.1a3
Click on the file, and xarchive will load. Use this to extract the program, just follow the onscreen prompts. It will extract into a folder called seamonkey.
What you do next will depend on which browser you have downloaded previously in Lucid. A safe option is to move the seamonkey directory in to /root/ When you have done that, open the directory and click on the seamonkey file. Seamonkey 2.1 alpha should load just fine.
Naturally, that is NOT what I did. I had Seamonkey 2.0.5 installed as my default browser. It was installed in /usr/lib/seamonkey2
I just went in like a nutcase, deleted all the files in /usr/lib/seamonkey2, and put all the files from the seamonkey alfa directory in there instead. It all worked just fine, including the menu entry
If you want to try that but want to be more cautious, rename /usr/lib/seamonkey2 to seamonkeyold or somesuch, create a NEW /usr/lib/seamonkey2, and drop the alpha files in there. That way, you can always reverse the process.
Check out personas here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/personas/
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Re: Latest Nightly upgrades
Been running the pre beta all day.. no problems. Seatab X has already been updated to work with 2.1x. Its a 'must have'gcmartin wrote:Seems that there is a Nightly site with a Pre-Beta
http://www.tom-cat.com/mozilla/extensions.html near bottom of page.
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Why I use Seamonkey
I've been using various Puppies since 2.xx and have religiously replaced Seamonkey with various Operas or Firefoxen. I liked Opera because I used it in Win98 and XP, it had vertical tabs, and it had everything I ever wanted. And when Opera inexplicably became buggy with 10.xx, I ventured into Firefox country to get swept up in its never ending misma of unneccesary (and sometimes conflicting) addons.
With Quirky, I immediately dismissed any thoughts of my once beloved Opera. All the 10.xx are buggy under Quirky and Flash 10. Youtube is unusable, and working with > 10 tabs caused constant crashes. So I rolled out Firefox 3.6x to find that I needed 5 addons to make it behave like a proper browser (Opera-like <smile>). It also crashed when I viewed on > 4 Youtube pages or > 15 tabs.
Finally, as a last resort and cursing Barry all the way, I dealt with the Monkey. The thing about Seamonkey is that it's ugly, and mildly inconvenient. Yes it's robust. Yes it's reliable. Yes I could view lots of Youtube pages and > 20 tabs with not one crash. But it's so damn ugly.
And so we come to the problem with Seamonkey. Seamonkey is a victim of user apathy. It has no active community creating cool themes. It has no hoards of developers writing addons. It has a clunky interface of dialog boxes (!!!) that is vaguely embarrassing. SM2 has 5 good themes. Firefox has thousands. Opera has world class management of Search Engines. SM2 feels like 1980 all over again. Firefox has thousands of (sometimes) useful addons. SM2 has 10.
There is no excuse for this complete neglect of a truly amazing product. I ignored this great browser for 5 years because no one supports it! Even now (as I write), I've turned off every toolbar but the always visible (horizontal, grr) tab bar and now only use shortcut keys to do everything. I have enormous screen real estate, I have a super fast surfing experience, and I DO NOT CRASH.
Yes it is ugly. Yes it is clunky. Yes it reminds me of Ronald Reagan. But the thing works.
With Quirky, I immediately dismissed any thoughts of my once beloved Opera. All the 10.xx are buggy under Quirky and Flash 10. Youtube is unusable, and working with > 10 tabs caused constant crashes. So I rolled out Firefox 3.6x to find that I needed 5 addons to make it behave like a proper browser (Opera-like <smile>). It also crashed when I viewed on > 4 Youtube pages or > 15 tabs.
Finally, as a last resort and cursing Barry all the way, I dealt with the Monkey. The thing about Seamonkey is that it's ugly, and mildly inconvenient. Yes it's robust. Yes it's reliable. Yes I could view lots of Youtube pages and > 20 tabs with not one crash. But it's so damn ugly.
And so we come to the problem with Seamonkey. Seamonkey is a victim of user apathy. It has no active community creating cool themes. It has no hoards of developers writing addons. It has a clunky interface of dialog boxes (!!!) that is vaguely embarrassing. SM2 has 5 good themes. Firefox has thousands. Opera has world class management of Search Engines. SM2 feels like 1980 all over again. Firefox has thousands of (sometimes) useful addons. SM2 has 10.
There is no excuse for this complete neglect of a truly amazing product. I ignored this great browser for 5 years because no one supports it! Even now (as I write), I've turned off every toolbar but the always visible (horizontal, grr) tab bar and now only use shortcut keys to do everything. I have enormous screen real estate, I have a super fast surfing experience, and I DO NOT CRASH.
Yes it is ugly. Yes it is clunky. Yes it reminds me of Ronald Reagan. But the thing works.
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gcmartin
Ugly girls make good wives, so said my Dad to my cousin
"Ugly girls make good wives ...", so said my Dad to my cousin.
Anyway, if anyone is interested, here's, Howto build webpages using SeaMonkey without installing anything
Also, as far as I have been using Seamonkey, I use ALL of the Firefox add-ons with it. Simple Preference change. Haven't run into difficulties (probably because I don't need a lot).
Enjoy the Ugly girl. She's a great woman ,too.
Anyway, if anyone is interested, here's, Howto build webpages using SeaMonkey without installing anything
Also, as far as I have been using Seamonkey, I use ALL of the Firefox add-ons with it. Simple Preference change. Haven't run into difficulties (probably because I don't need a lot).
Enjoy the Ugly girl. She's a great woman ,too.