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#21 Post by ttuuxxx »

found a very big waste of space that needs trimming /usr/share/doc <---58MB !!!

also /usr/share/man should be deleted
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#22 Post by Iguleder »

Thank you so much, people :)

At the moment we need 3 things to be compiled: ffmpeg, xine-lib and aqualung. If there are any applications you want included, reply and attach PETs. Aqualung should be pretty simple to compile.

I have some experience with ffmpeg and xine-lib, so I can take care of that. 01micko could help with ffmpeg too, he's the real expert :)

In the IRC we agreed to call it Woofian (woof + Debian) ... but Puppy Squeeze is nice too... and we already have a logo.

At the moment I'm generating a first 002 iso, I'm gonna postpone some stuff to 003. All the polish will be in 003. ttuuxxx wanted auto-start for parcellite, for example and some people want wbar. I want 002 to have all replaced applications and 003 to have Openbox with fbpanel/lxpanel and all the bling, as we discussed on IRC.

EDIT: hehe ttuuxxx, saw your reply after submitting mine. I'm aware of the doc/locale issues with all Woof-built puppies, I want to do some trimming in 003 when we already have a beta quality Puppy.
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#23 Post by Lobster »

Good call ttuuxxx
Barry used to boast that we had 3MB of documentation
Now we have a whole distros worth?

Personally I find any program that requires documentation is already overcomplicated . . .

Maybe the documentation can be offered as an add on
- after trimming of course?

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#24 Post by ttuuxxx »

I used to like Aqualung until I found and ported some plugins to BMP, really BMP is the bomb, especially the way I set it up, I add tap and ladspa to it, plus the theme I put together for 2.14X and its stable of heck, If you need a hand with ffmpeg I can do that also. But the compiler would have to be pretty stable to build it.
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#25 Post by Iguleder »

Good idea, Lobster. I'll try to put all docs in a SFS. Maybe we can expand that "booster pack" idea and make SFSs for graphics, multimedia, documentation, locales and so on, as stu90 or Stripe (don't remember, I just remember the s) said. dpup has BMP too, maybe we can use that PET.

And ttuuxxx, you're right, ffmpeg needs a stable compiler, it's a very complex and sensitive pacakge. I built a 002 and X won't start because it needs some extra library, I'm generating a new ISO with that library included atm.

I want to start all compilation and packaging work on 002, as it should provide pretty much the same libraries as later versions and the same xorg.
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#26 Post by ttuuxxx »

as for doc's, really just a intro about Barry and what this releases is, and a how to connect to the internet via,dialup,adsl,wireless and a link to the full doc's package I think is the lightest way to go. Probably around 200 kb if a few Internet connection images were added.
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#27 Post by ttuuxxx »

I did notice xorg was extremely small, I didn't see half the regular min Xorg files, like xext, when I try to compile libxaw I get
No package 'x11' found
No package 'xext' found
No package 'xt' found
No package 'xmu' found
these are part of base, but /usr/X11R7/lib/libX11.la ls there
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#28 Post by Iguleder »

Here's a development screeny of 002. Gigolo/LXTask/Gxine work but Abiword and Gnumeric still don't.

Few problems:
- Seamonkey runs but segfaults on certain sites. I'll try Dejan's Seamonkey.
- The Xfce GTK engine is AWESOME.
- The "straight to desktop" thing doesn't work, some missing symlinks. I'll do my best to get rid of it and use the classic xorgwizard.
- Menu entries are messed up for all new applications, gotta turn them into PETs.

EDIT: fixed Abiword and Gnumeric. Now heading to the xorgwizard front.

ttuxxx: it's Lupu's xorg, in 002 it's the Debian xorg and it WORKS!
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#29 Post by ttuuxxx »

Iguleder But I like the blue-moon icons better in 001:)
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#30 Post by Iguleder »

Here are some PETs I made from DEBs. Testing time! :)

Oh, another thing, galculator doesn't work ... does anyone have some PET we can use?
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leafpad-0.8.17.pet
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parcellite-0.9.2.pet
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gigolo-0.4.1.pet
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#31 Post by tubby »

@ttuuxxx, i have not downloaded the distro yet but i am intrigued as to what doc files use that amount of space?. Maybe the programs they refer to need looking at. My doc folder in my original dpup is only 232k.

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#32 Post by ttuuxxx »

This is better than gaculator, try the view menu and see the different layouts.
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#33 Post by Iguleder »

Thanks for the PET, I'll add it.

By the way, the huge docs problem is gone somehow, maybe it's one of the Lupu pets or something ... :roll:
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#34 Post by ttuuxxx »

This is the best bejeweled game on Linux. It uses those extra gnome libs that might get removed, but until then enjoy :)
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#35 Post by tubby »

As my interest in dpup is now aroused again, i have been playing with Aptitude on my dpup with promising results.
If there is any interest in me pursuing this further i will look further into it in fortnights time when i get back from my hols.
Attached is a splash screen of it working on my computer, i hope.

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#36 Post by Iguleder »

An Aptitude SFS ... yummy :wink:

002 is uploaded, see first post. Did some stupid mistake .... "Squeeze Puppy" while the logo says "Puppy Squeeze". I'll fix this in 003 :lol:
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#37 Post by ttuuxxx »

http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
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#38 Post by Iguleder »

Fixed the link, thanks.

I attached 2 pets that fix menu icons for LXTask and a new gtkhash PET that is much smaller than the DEB.

I also attached a GPicView PET, dpup used it and many people like it. Additionally, I repackaged ttuuxxx's gcalctool pet. Just tell me what you think.
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#39 Post by ttuuxxx »

This is the best version of Gpicview, because harrywill added a slideshow to it. :) found at http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=14226
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#40 Post by Iguleder »

More pets!
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