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#621 Post by pemasu »

I believe this is Lucid Puppy 5.1.2pre or something. I have now woof-tree and first Lucid Puppy made and installed. Testing it now. Not everything went well. Midori segment faults and does not start. Lucid-puppy repo is empty in PPM. There is something also in the woof. BK`s and Iguleder`s report here from BK`s blog:
Posted on 12 Sep 2010, 19:37 by Iguleder
DISTRO_PET_REPOS
Barry, something weird in latest Woof ... should be DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX or DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION and lucid.

case $DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION in #100911
lupu)
PACKAGELISTS_PET_ORDER="Packages-puppy-lucid-official ${PACKAGELISTS_PET_ORDER}"
;;
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Posted on 12 Sep 2010, 22:41 by BarryK
Re lucid)
Oops, yes, it should have been "lucid)".

Although, the error probably doesn't adversely affect a build of Lucid 5.1.2, as I think that playdayz intended for all the entries in Packages-puppy-lucid-official to not be chosen when building the live-CD, instead for the repo in PPM. He arranged for all required packages needed to build the live-CD to be in Packages-puppy-5-official.
I will try to get repo first visible, I should learn something in trying. Posting this from new Lucid Puppy. Firefox installed from quickpet so everything didnt fail.

EDIT: Lucid-puppy-official repo is back. I downloaded the latest repo file and copied it to /root/.packages. I also changed the DISTRO_PET_REPOS file with file from luci511. It had the above mentioned error. I dont know if it had any effect but now lucid-puppy repo is visible. I also made save file and rebooted before it came visible. Well.. that`s it for today.

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#622 Post by Iguleder »

Kinda weird, Midori works fine in my dpup build :)

Maybe you have a corrupt package or something ... if it works fine with Debian's packages it makes it more likely that your libraries (which Midori was built against) are corrupt.

Oh, and by the way: add the "lucid" repo in the PET repos list but after Quirky, so Woof doesn't pick any packages from it. Barry said that playdayz put all packages required for 5.1.2-pre in the 5 repo. The "lucid" repo has older packages, notably an older Abiword. I noticed that my Lupu gets built with Abiword 2.8.3 or something while 5.1 has 2.8.6 (which can be obtained from the Quirky repo), so I changed the repo order to 5-quirky-lucid.

EDIT: second build, getting segfaults. :cry:
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#623 Post by pemasu »

I believe also that corrupted packages is highly possible. Even when I download isos, almost every second time I get incorrect MD5 sum results with Uget. When downloading packages to woof-tree there is inevitably corrupted packages among the others.
I use normally only wireless connection. I dont have working driver for my laptop wired netcard in Lucid Puppy, but I had it working in some puppies. I might try downloading packages to woof using it.
It is kind of miracle that Luci512pre works this good. None other problems so far.

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#624 Post by playdayz »

pet-packages-lucid is for the PPM and pet_packages-5 is where specific packages to build Lucid 5.1.2pre are. it should grab abiword-2.8.6-lupu--but sometimes it seems to grab the top file instead of the one with the latest version number, so I will delete abiword-2.8.3-lupu just in case. I might not have been specific enough about Abiword--the one you want is in pet_packages-5, abiword-2.8.6-lupu--you can download it manually if necessary into packages-pet.

Here are the relevant files that I used in testing--building Lucid 5.1.2pre from scratch----put them in the woof-tree directory. Just remove the phony gz. If you have time I would recommend starting over with these files. If not, then put them in woof-tree and redownload packages and watch carefully which are downloaded and then rebuild those packages that are downloaded. It has been built from scratch twice with these files--I am not saying it was perfect, but it was close.

I haven't tested with the Woof that Barry uploaded on September 11.

In DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS_ubuntu_lucid, you will see some files such as 'cups-lucid.' What that means is that cups needed a special template in order to build and run properly. There is no provision in Woof for transferring special templates so what I did was package the resulting built package into cups_lucid so that people could build successfully. Ghostscript, xorg_base, and xserver_xorg are also in this category. I will package up the special templates and post them here later.
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#625 Post by Stripe »

Hi all

Playdayz after a full week of testing still cant get the new machines onboard sound to work properly with any woof built pup, so have just put a sound card in so that it will work with them.

With 512 is it just replace the downloaded files and do the same as before? will it be alright still using the 22 august woof?

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#626 Post by bigpup »

scruffy wrote:
pemasu wrote:Check dependencies installed pkgs goes under the screen, there should be some keystroke which enables to scroll the page down but I dont remember it. Is there other tool to check dependencies ?
Can you drag the window up using <ALT><Left mouse Button> ?
Barry has updated this program to correct this problem but I do not know if it is available for download.

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#627 Post by pemasu »

Playdayz. Thank you of precise description. I am now little bit more aware how woof works with Lucid Puppy. I have the latest woof, but I think I have to first get more trustworthy net connection. I havent needed before wired net in the house, so I havent had need to compile netcard driver. But now I have excuse to do that. I have already source downloaded. DSL connection is fast enough and it should not be problem.

And I have Abiword 2.8.6.

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#628 Post by pemasu »

AR81Family ethernet driver is now compiled in my Lucid Puppy 512pre. Autoconf.h and some other files were in unorthodox places. Needed to edit Makefile before compiling succeeded but now my wired Atheros 8151 works.

Driver module is atl1e. The version in Lucid Puppy didnt work but this newest version works fine.
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#629 Post by Karl Godt »

Hello evreyone !

Finally got me a new HD working that is a little bit too large for my BIOS (IDE 500 GB) -- many freezes in the beginning and many grub error

But now I managed it to run 511 official release frugal on an ext4 that is primarily a luci-218 OS -- and no freezes for now .

The only new occurance was that I had to unplug the USB modem at bootup to overcome a kernel hang at checking the first partition of the first HD .

Some frugals are saying that they can`t find their .sfs file but Upup-432 , Macpup-4.3 and now Lupu-511or are booting frugal :D

All full installs are booting also . Crazy trying to boot 4.3 with kernel 2.6.33 to get the good poweroff funktion of Lupu-511 passed to the 4-series.

One of the main difference is the visibility at rox for the .desktop and .menu files compared to 4.3 !

I`m also figuring out `pgprs-shell` that is simpler but working very good !

For those about "HARDWARE NOT DETECTED" : modprobe DRIVER !

-- my USB MODEM is a HUAWEI and works well with the driver .named >> option << -- so it would be `modprobe option` -- HTH
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Solved : sfs not found

#630 Post by Karl Godt »

Some frugals are saying that they can`t find their .sfs file
SOLVED : I made a /JUMP folder on each full install on the many partitions for the frugal boot ++ but renaming them to /JUMP-partition-5 , /JUMP-partition-6 ... now the initrd.gz finds the specific .sfs

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Booting 511 live at 12 year old machine causes kernel panic

#631 Post by svgt »

After booting the live cd I get these last messages:

setting up the layered filesystem ... done
performing a 'switch_root' to the layered filesystem
kernel panic - not syncing - attempted to kill init!

I think its not the quality of the cd, but the quality of the old machine. The same live cd is launching at newer machines.

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#632 Post by pemasu »

Still trying to get familiar with woof. I started from bones download to new woof-1. This time I needed to add packages 5 repo to DISTRO_PET_REPOS at the last row. Otherwise pet-5 packages didnt download.


PACKAGELISTS_PET_ORDER='Packages-puppy-quirky-official Packages-puppy-5-official Packages-puppy-woof-official Packages-puppy-4-official'

I still dont have clear idea howto add your own pet´s so that woof accepts them for building.

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#633 Post by Iguleder »

It's simple, add the specs line to the first repo. I added this:

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fotoxx-10.9.1|fotoxx|10.9.1||Graphic|603K||fotoxx-10.9.1.pet||Fotoxx photo gallery|debian|squeeze||
to the top of Packages-puppy-quirky-official, because that's my top priority repo. Then, put the pet in packages-pet.

In some cases you need to delete all other versions from the Packages-puppy-something-official if you want Woof to pick your custom package. In my case I had xine-lib 1.1.19 and the Quirky repo has 1.1.18, Woof picked the older Quirky package so I removed its entries.
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svgt wrote:After booting the live cd I get these last messages:

setting up the layered filesystem ... done
performing a 'switch_root' to the layered filesystem
kernel panic - not syncing - attempted to kill init!

I think its not the quality of the cd, but the quality of the old machine. The same live cd is launching at newer machines.
I tend to have similar issues as well. It's, in my case, scratches on the CD making it unbootable.
Since you said the machine is twelve years old, it sounds like it could possibly be insufficient memory? Since it's loaded into the ram on boot-up, and when you create a USB it says there should be atleast 512mb to load it into RAM...
:(

Nothing is really more interesting (for a Linux user) when you get a kernel panic booting from a CD. XD

HEY GUYS I have Lupu 5.11 up and running on a 4gb SanDisk Cruzer thumb drive. I've had no hassles thus far (but my computer is like...well over the specs for Puppy), except for configuring my wireless. When I would enter my WEP key on the original Network Wizard (the one I've used on Puppy 4.3 as long as I've had it), it would say it's unable to find a live connection. But going through Barry's tool worked just fine. It was a lot easier too, I must say.

I can't wait to see as this goes along. :)
In fact, if you guys give me some artwork (I typed it as arfwork. I guess it works) and logos, I'll make some wallpapers :)

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#635 Post by pemasu »

Second woof build luci512pre. Midori still segmentation faults. Seems to do so in squeeze dpup also, build by Iguleder and he uses lupu packages also. In PPM Luci repo again empty so I have missed again something. Libgoffice was missing. After installing it abiword 2.8.6 opened. So I have still work to do before I handle woof correctly. maybe I have to move pet-5 package repo after woof or .... or .......

But it works.

Iguleder: Thank you of your description. One obstacle out from building special Luci.

Why not just remastering working installation. Well... I want to have solid base system which is updatable with newer Lucid versions and general fixes by BK and easily updated to have those apps I need also. Woof should be capable to do that.

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#636 Post by playdayz »

pemasu and others,

These are the custom templates that are used to build Lupu. If all you want to do is to build Lupu-5.1.2pre exactly as it is then you do not need them. Instead there are files such as "cups_lucid" that contain the cups program already built for Lupu. But if you want to use the Lupu SPECS to build some other version--or with different binaries such as dpup--then you should use the custom templates.

What I do is to go into the packages-templates folder and rename cups to cups.old and then copy the custom cups template in. Then you need to go to DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS_ubuntu lucid or whatever and find the entry

yes|cups_lucid||exe,dev,doc,nls and replace the yes with a no

and then find the entry no|cups|cups-bsd,cups..etc|exe, etc

and change that to yes. What that does is tell Woof to download and use the cups files from the binary distro--so download them and then tell Woof to build them and Woof will use the custom template to build cups out of the binaries--it might even work ;-)

Do this also with ghostscript, xorg_base, and xserver_xorg.

Repeat, you do not need to do this if all you want is to build Lupu 5.1.2pre. I recommend that you go through the steps and get a good Lupu 5.1.2 pre before you start experimenting. Do every step except you do not need to add programs--skip that step.

Stripe, you should have already had the files that are on the previous page. Perhaps you could share your experience in building from scratch with pemasu? Thanks. Also stripe, you are probably better off with the Woof of Aug 22--it seems that there might have been some glitches in the latest Woof that Barry posted--possibly causing the problems such as midori and any others. But Barry will get it right pdq.

I will check here for questions if I can be of any assistance.

Pemasu, libgoffice should have been included in gnumeric.

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Misc issues

#637 Post by Dave_B »

I first want to say that I really like Puppy 5.11 and my thanks go to all the folks involved in creating this jewel.

I've noticed that the xload? widget in the toolbar doesn't start all the time on boot up, it does start if I restart the xServer. The Pwidgets apps on the display have a leading uppercase character in a large white font preceeding the title.
I have installed Open Office and my files didn't associate with OO apps. Is there a way to do this?

I sure appreciate that the update from 5.1 left my files in place. Good work.

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Re: Misc issues

#638 Post by Shep »

Dave_B wrote:I have installed Open Office and my files didn't associate with OO apps. Is there a way to do this?
right-click on that file in the file manager -> select Open With ..... -> Customise

Once you wade through it the first time, you'll see it makes sense. (I'm not using Lucid yet but assume pups from the same litter are all similar.) :lol:

HTH :)

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#639 Post by Stripe »

Hi all

Sorry Playdayz been a bit busy and am just catching up

If anyone has any questions I am always here to try and help (have used woof successfuly to create a previous version)

I found that installing woof using bones gave better results, (10gb partition)
http://bkhome.org/woof/index.html

I used a previous version of lucid to do it (but I think anything after 4.3.1 will do it.)

Once you have built Woof. Take the 4 downloads playdayz listed in the thread remove the .gz so they become text files and copy them into the woof-tree folder. If it asks you if you want to overwrite? just say yes

Then start the woof-gui and go to the first tab: Specifications
Compatible Distro and Compatible Distro version are the important ones, set them to ubuntu and lucid/ You can set the others to what you want. And then Update the Specs (big button).

Then go to the download Db's tab and choose Update Local Db's tab. That will take a while, maybe 30 minutes or so.

The next is Download packages--that will also take a while, a couple of hours maybe.

Next is Build packages--about 45 minutes. It might show that there is an error building linux_kernel-2.6.33.2... That is OK. It is the only way I know to get the kernel there at this time. It doesn't hurt anything.

After the packages are built, go to Kernel Options and drop down the menu. You want the one that says linux_kernel-2.6.33.2-patched-smp_L3.

Now you are ready to Build Distro. you have to click Enter a few times--but it doesn't need any manual adjustment--everything should run automatically.

The easiest at first might be to burn it to a CD after it is built--Woof gives that option.

I am sorry but I dont know how to alter the packages, but with the files Playdayz has supplied you wont need to, and you should end up with a copy of 5.1.2

Last time it took me about 5 hours in total from start to finish
Hope you have fun
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#640 Post by pemasu »

Stripe. Thank you of your information. It always help to know how others use bones and woof. I have build luci512pre almost like you have. I have started from the scratch with bones, downloaded woof and then played with woof_gui. I have also checked availability and dependencies which are slow steps. Only glitch I had was with the second attempt that pet-5 packages didnt download. I had to edit PACKAGELISTS_PET_ORDER='Packages-puppy-quirky-official Packages-puppy-5-official Packages-puppy-woof-official Packages-puppy-4-official'

I tried downloading many times without success, but after above edit I got those pets from pet-5.

Midori seems to segfault. Also I think I got wrong version of gnumeric because libgoffice was missing. But basic functionality is ok. I still have issues that wireless infrequently loses the connection. If I use pwireless2, the problem vanishes. Wired connection was ok after I compiled the driver.
Maybe there is minor problem with the latest woof but my experience doesnt count much :)
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